michaelius
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Nice but hopefully they also address total input lag
Did you turn off TrueMotion when HDR is enabled?well, this explains why ratchet and clank felt unplayable on my PS4Pro and LG 60UH6550
Are you using a receiver?
I run my PS4 Pro into a Denon x3200w - perhaps that has an impact on the situation? I just confirmed, it works fine with HDCP 2.2 on the B6. I might try plugging directly into the TV and see if it breaks.
HDR in gamemode produces a slightly dimmer picture compared to outside of gamemode.How about with HDR?
A friend of mine has a 2015 OLED and HDR games DO NOT work properly at all. The white level is completely borked with very dim results. No clue why.
Sorry, must've skipped over that somehow.Read: *although there are conflicting reports*...
Hah, what a hit. I'm totally happy for this guy too. Glad LG is sorting this, as I'm hoping to big up an LG model next year. Hopefully an OLED!Happy for LG owners and that guy who posted his petition in every thread
They have to lower it a ton for me to even be remotely interested.
Crap. Just found out no 3d on the b series. Not so sure if I want to bite, now.
Will next years TVs likely have lower input lag than this years models or do they focus on other areas? I dont follow TVs closely but the 4k stuff is really catching my interest since i have a Pro now.
lol. Not even on bestbuy Canada's website. I hate buying electronics here :-(go to your local Bestbuy or Eletronic store.... check out the C6, which is priced similarly. And see if the curve is that big a deal for you. It's not like other curve TVs I've seen.
but the C6 has 3D. But it has one less HDMI port (3) than the B6/E6 (4 ports) if that is important to you.
go to your local Bestbuy or Eletronic store.... check out the C6, which is priced similarly. And see if the curve is that big a deal for you. It's not like other curve TVs I've seen.
but the C6 has 3D. But it has one less HDMI port (3) than the B6/E6 (4 ports) if that is important to you.
I almost went for the C6 for the 3D. I ended up sticking with the extra HDMI as 3D wasn't that important to me. You're right though - the curve is much less subtle than other sets out there. Still not a fan, but its one of the best curved set designs I've seen.
Plus the C6 has lower lag if thats an issue for you.
I have a c6. Best 3D I ever Saw. Rewatching all my 3D movie for this.Crap. Just found out no 3d on the b series. Not so sure if I want to bite, now.
I'm using the B6 and I got no picture with the PS4 Pro when I first turned it on. Had to go into safe mode and force it to use HDCP 1.4 to get it to work. It seems to be a known issue affecting other sets as well. Something to do with the device identification technology or something.
HDCP 2.2 works just fine on the set, though. I have a UHD Blu-ray player hooked up and it plays UHD Blu-rays just fine, as well as Amazon/Netflix 4K/HDR content.
Are you using a receiver?
I run my PS4 Pro into a Denon x3200w - perhaps that has an impact on the situation? I just confirmed, it works fine with HDCP 2.2 on the B6. I might try plugging directly into the TV and see if it breaks.
I have a c6. Best 3D I ever Saw. Rewatching all my 3D movie for this.
Now we just have to put pressure on TV manufacturers to put pressure on TCON manufactures to enable Freesync over HDMI.
Now we just put pressure on the industry to fuggin make Display Port the standard. I mean seriously come on.
go to your local Bestbuy or Eletronic store.... check out the C6, which is priced similarly. And see if the curve is that big a deal for you. It's not like other curve TVs I've seen.
but the C6 has 3D. But it has one less HDMI port (3) than the B6/E6 (4 ports) if that is important to you.
Happy for LG owners and that guy who posted his petition in every thread
Hah, what a hit. I'm totally happy for this guy too. Glad LG is sorting this, as I'm hoping to big up an LG model next year. Hopefully an OLED!
Well done everyone, glad LG is stepping up for OLED owners, hopefully it's not just an empty promise and a patch comes out within the next couple months.
He even started a thread lol
I had the same issue as him when plugged directly into my 65" B6
I tried known good cables, so it was not a cable issue. At first boot, everything was fine. The problem didn't start for me until I fired up Ratchet and Clank and HDR mode was engaged. Then the screen went black and I could only hear bits of garbled audio.
Running through my Pioneer receiver (vsx-1130k), I don't have any issues w/ the ps4 pro. Which is how I intended to use it anyway, but I was surprised that the Pro had issues without it.
AFAIK only the B6, though I had some problems with watching a 3D Blu-ray by using the Pro on my E6. That obviously doesn't concern HDCP 2.2 though.Why do you want Netflix or Ama Video on your PS4 Pro when the (LG Oled at least) TV itself has better apps for that???
Despite that, I never had problems with HDCP - does this concern the E6 too?
Holla! Glad the power of the people worked to get attention to this. I couldn't have done it without 2500+ signatures and getting into contact with Forbes and others. The original article on Forbes had 40,000+ views itself.
Those HDR numbers aren't consistent with what we've seen on other sites (RTINGs even posted a video where you can see the latency counter in real-time)LG B6
Those HDR numbers aren't consistent with what we've seen on other sites (RTINGs even posted a video where you can see the latency counter in real-time)
Those HDR numbers aren't consistent with what we've seen on other sites (RTINGs even posted a video where you can see the latency counter in real-time)
Those HDR numbers aren't consistent with what we've seen on other sites (RTINGs even posted a video where you can see the latency counter in real-time)
Someone on AVS is claiming the total input lag is as high as 150ms, although I'm not sure their testing methodology is accurate, nor should they really be testing anything other than the TV itself.
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...4-oled-lag-time-discussion-b6-c6-e6-g-34.html
That's a bad test. Does not make sense.Someone on AVS is claiming the total input lag is as high as 150ms, although I'm not sure their testing methodology is accurate, nor should they really be testing anything other than the TV itself.
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...4-oled-lag-time-discussion-b6-c6-e6-g-34.html
That's a bad test. Does not make sense.
Consider this - what if they used something like Killzone 2 for this test? Can you imagine that? The number would be over 200ms total!
Some says 15-20ms is unplayable, some says 50ms is totally fine. People are too obsessed with the numbers...People WANT to notice the input lag, they are looking for it just like they do with banding, haloing etc. they want to notice the issues and not focusing on the content. At the previous console gen most TVs had 50-70ms input lag but no one cared till some AV freaks started to create measuring tools (leo bodnar etc). And don't forget that those were the times when people started to throw out the analog TVs (0ms input lag) and enter the digital world (+50ms lag) and yet not many people complained back then.
Do you really think that this is terrible?
https://youtu.be/S_H2mVDRdzE
Some of what you say might be true, but it's not entirely correct. Many people DO notice input lag after a certain threshold. It's especially noticeable in fighting games. In 2011 I ended up playing on some 55'' mounted TVs at a local gaming shop and they felt really "off" to me, but I wasn't sure exactly why (my own TV was 20ms). Everything just felt like playing in mud and unresponisve. As it turns out, the TVs were 96ms...
On top of just the way it feels, it will also drastically hurt your ability to do combos that require extremely tight timing, sometimes becoming impossible.
As for your video; the jerking of the analogs are very poor demonstrations to film. In fact, aside from seeing something like a gun firing after the press of a button, it's extremely hard to guage the way input lag feels if you're simply observing. This isn't that different from 30fps vs 60fps in the way a game feels. You might be able to see the difference in the framerate by simply watching, but you still don't get the entire picture without actually playing it yourself.