Oh ok, thank you.
But you should count the special edition as 2 games, so, 40K x 2 = 80K.
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Oh ok, thank you.
But you should count the special edition as 2 games, so, 40K x 2 = 80K.
Guilty Gear Xrd -Sign- did worse. It only sold 12,638 on PS4, or 39,916 including the PS3 version.
http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20141210067/
wow I had no idea it was that low. What about BB?
I'm expecting Gundam EXVS series would easily surpass it.
Yes I know it's a 2 on 2 fighter.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
Furthermore haven't Musou games in general taken hit saleswise. Even the sequels to populair Musou games have had dramatic drops. I reckon the quality of those games have to do with that and you can sell the idea of populair IP+ Musou only that many times before Japanese consumers wakes up to fact that the games are kinda suspect. Then again the reception of Dragon Quest heroes was pretty good, so I wonder how the sequel is going to do.
Primethius
Banned
I expected 60k for SFV and it still underperformed way below that. Terrible performance at retail so far.
Pennywise83
Banned
Setsuna is not a bomba. It's performing better than expected - not great, though.
Attack on Titan is one of the most popular entertainment IPs in Japan right now; Omega Force + Sony platforms increased the likelihood of selling extremely well. Remember that Attack on Titan on 3DS sold 300k units. Ken's Rage sold 500k+ on PS3.
I expected an extremely good debut, indeed.
Attack on Titan is one of the most popular entertainment IPs in Japan right now; Omega Force + Sony platforms increased the likelihood of selling extremely well. Remember that Attack on Titan on 3DS sold 300k units. Ken's Rage sold 500k+ on PS3.
I expected an extremely good debut, indeed.
Thanks for the numbers, as usual. That's really a terrible opening for SFV, seeing it didn't even beat USFIV.
What about other fighters on PS4, how did they perform in Japan? Injustice, Dead or Alive 5 LR, BlazBlue Chronophantasma, Guilty Gear Xrd?
To be fair Chain already saw a very significant drop compared to the vanilla game on 3DS (I think it didn't even reach 100k ?), usually I don't think extended rerelease sell less than a third of what the original game did.
That was maybe the first sign that the IP already lost a bit of its appeal in the videogame market.
@RamzaIsCool : While still being developed by Omega Force, it's rather far from your usual musou title.
BlazBlue: Chronophantasma Extend
PS3 15,550
PS4 7,589
Xbone MIA
http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20150428149/
Stone Ocean
Member
That's pretty bad lol we have what, around 200k accounted for first week sales? Oof
I wanna say the server issues killed the game's launch but I don't even know anymore
I wanna say the server issues killed the game's launch but I don't even know anymore
Moor-Angol
Banned
most of you guys forget that SF4 was a port from the arcade, SF5 is not
that's a big difference
that's a big difference
But that also means people can't play it in the arcades. Didn't get anyone to buy it, apprently.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
The game is one which do people think will sell more SFV or Pokken
So that makes SFV a bigger bomba since they aren't earning anything from the arcades.
Setsuna is very much in line with whay games like this sell in Japan, so it's doing fine. AoT is definitely a disappointment. Koei Tecmo needs to seriously reevaluate the Musou franchise moving forward.
Something interesting about SMTIVF btw. In the longass Atlus survey today, one of the questions was what you think of when you see the name SMTIV Final. The choices were a) SMTIV sequel, b) SMTIV remake, c) SMTIV expansion rerelease, and d) a brand new game based on SMTIV. Judging from the options I think they are aware of possible confusion and want more opinions. I picked c.
Something interesting about SMTIVF btw. In the longass Atlus survey today, one of the questions was what you think of when you see the name SMTIV Final. The choices were a) SMTIV sequel, b) SMTIV remake, c) SMTIV expansion rerelease, and d) a brand new game based on SMTIV. Judging from the options I think they are aware of possible confusion and want more opinions. I picked c.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Not exactly an apples to apples comparison since it's just an expansion. BBCP did 72k first week
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=706631
Pennywise83
Banned
What are comparable re-release? Because Chain sold good for what it was, considering that owners of the original could upgrade the game directly from the eShop - and those are not tracked by physical nor digital sales.
I know. I was just replying to Kysen's question.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Personally I think the lukewarm sales for SF5 (everywhere really) are less about crappy launch/lack of modes and more about the genre just slowly fading away not unlike racers. There doesn't really seem to be any kind of hook for newcomers to get into the genre for a hefty pricetag. There is no substantial single player potential compared to todays standards and as a multiplayer has become more niche (with the obvious exeption being Smash that is more a party game/IP driven).
ArchedThunder
Banned
Hopefully they rename it when they bring it west.
I would say on the 3DS stuff like Fantasy Life -> Fantast Life Link and Bravely Default -> Bravely Default For the Sequel are comparable. Both had eShop upgrade options, and both were expansion/improvement re-releases of popular games which were the first entry in their series. Both games also did over 250k, and both retail re-releases sold about 50-70k.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Oh I misread the question, oops. I think Sign came out during a period when PS4 wasn't doing as well though. Revelator will likely do much better.
But how many people are going to play SF5 over Black Ops 3? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Better yet, how many are going to trade the game in if they can. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
The sad thing is that this release was their chance to fight this trend, but they completely ignored newcomers. They're betting big on the Pro Tour but I have my doubts that it can reach audiences like that.
Mario Kart VS Mario Maker
Next week Mario Kart 8 Bundle Set was released, and after that Christmas season. Now begins the real challenge.
Code:
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| | Mario Kart 8 | Super Mario Maker | Difference |
| | [WIU] (2014/05/29)| [WIU] (2015/09/10)| |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | SMM - MK8 |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 1 | 325.892| 325.892| 138.242| 138.242| -187.650|
| 2 | 73.051| 398.943| 54.544| 192.785| -206.158|
| 3 | 42.261| 441.205| 52.396| 245.182| -196.023|
| 4 | 28.112| 469.316| 30.150| 275.332| -193.984|
| 5 | 23.520| 492.837| 24.533| 299.865| -192.972|
| 6 | 19.386| 512.223| 21.357| 321.222| -191.001|
| 7 | 15.143| 527.366| 15.817| 337.039| -190.327|
| 8 | 14.992| 542.358| 13.764| 350.803| -191.555|
| 9 | 18.129| 560.487| 15.364| 366.167| -194.320|
| 10 | 18.067| 578.554| 12.442| 378.609| -199.945|
| 11 | 20.860| 599.414| 13.184| 391.793| -207.621|
| 12 | 28.221| 627.635| 18.639| 410.432| -217.203|
| 13 | 12.075| 639.710| 32.155| 442.588| -197.122|
| 14 | 11.148| 650.858| 48.600| 491.188| -159.670|
| 15 | 8.221| 659.079| 84.789| 575.977| -83.102|
| 16 | 6.839| 665.918| 98.155| 674.132| 8.214|
| 17 | 6.396| 672.313| 52.753| 726.885| 54.572|
| 18 | 5.936| 678.250| 25.854| 752.739| 74.489|
| 19 | 4.517| 682.767| 14.342| 767.081| 84.314|
| 20 | 3.996| 686.763| 9.264| 776.345| 89.582|
| 21 | 3.625| 690.387| 7.865| 784.211| 93.824|
| 22 | 2.821| 693.208| 6.134| 790.345| 97.137|
| 23 | 3.170| 696.378| 5.186| 795.531| 99.153|
| 24 | 3.210| 699.588| 6.477| 802.007| 102.419|
| 25 | 13.544| 713.132| | | |
| 26 | 8.752| 721.884| | | |
| 27 | 12.742| 734.626| | | |
| 28 | 19.244| 753.870| | | |
| 29 | 24.938| 778.808| | | |
| 30 | 34.331| 813.139| | | |
| 31 | 38.637| 851.776| | | |
| 32 | 28.403| 880.180| | | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Total -|1.187.570| -| 802.007| -385.563|
-------------------------------------------------------------Next week Mario Kart 8 Bundle Set was released, and after that Christmas season. Now begins the real challenge.
KillerMan91
Member
Mortal Kombat X had shipped over 5 million units as of october 2015 and overall was one of the best selling games in US last year. Also way up compared to MK IX. In Japan the genre definitely has faded a lot compared to past but worldwide not really.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Tekken 7 will probably do pretty well for itself as well. SFV's failure is not the genre's fault.
Closer to 70k for both apparently but yeah uh fair enough, forgot about the eshop upgrade option for AoT.
I think back then the stock problems the original title had made me (us?) think that the extended rerelease could do a bit better than that, the extended rerelease did had a low sellthrough too (<40%) but still cleared its shipment easily.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Disappointing #s for Street Fighter, Attack on Titan and Setsuna, and by next week they will probably be dead too.
Code:
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| | MCreate | MCreate |
| | PS4 | PS4 |
|Wk|2015.01.05|2016.01.04|
| | to | to |
| |2016.01.03|2017.01.01|
+--+----------+----------+
| 1| 19.118| 36.559|
| 2| 15.480| 25.592|
| 3| 13.793| 24.441|
| 4| 17.392| 32.557|
| 5| 18.758| 31.058|
| 6| 21.381| 27.576|
| 7| 24.737| 29.363|
| 8| 46.139| |
| 9| 33.753| |
|10| 33.826| |
|11| 46.395| |
|12| 45.446| |
|13| 26.738| |
|14| 17.885| |
|15| 15.419| |
|16| 20.112| |
|17| 19.782| |
|18| 15.992| |
|19| 11.489| |
|20| 12.096| |
|21| 12.272| |
|22| 11.763| |
|23| 10.822| |
|24| 13.850| |
|25| 14.482| |
|26| 18.171| |
|27| 15.779| |
|28| 24.266| |
|29| 17.656| |
|30| 18.740| |
|31| 14.619| |
|32| 18.503| |
|33| 14.495| |
|34| 18.539| |
|35| 54.494| |
|36| 18.555| |
|37| 8.375| |
|38| 4.071| |
|39| 46.177| |
|40| 30.349| |
|41| 25.699| |
|42| 22.801| |
|43| 22.104| |
|44| 33.442| |
|45| 27.311| |
|46| 29.052| |
|47| 26.598| |
|48| 35.782| |
|49| 38.497| |
|50| 46.749| |
|51| 53.023| |
|52| 65.427| |
+--+----------+----------+
Yeah, back then most multi-platform games were still doing better on PS3. Let's hope Revelator will sell decently on PS4.
Pennywise83
Banned
Therefore sales for Chain were in line with similar operations.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Setsuna did pretty damn well for what it is.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Well you kinda got me there. I should have specified I was talking about the FGC focused titles but I admit MK slipped my mind. MK at least has the over the top violence appeal and focus on casual play AFAIK over the hardcore centric push of SF. I just don't know if slapping a meaty story mode to Street Fighter can make it appeal to the audience that buys Mortal Kombat.
Like compare the pre-release marketing of these titles. With MK you get to see a dude cut in half and melted by acid or some shit. With SF we are supposed to be excited about some random character reveal nobody outside the fanbase gives a shit about. Combine that with the ample time Sony allowed Ono on stage in many events and they really needed something to get people excited.
It did okay, but I wouldn't go that far. It would have done very well if it managed to sell over 100k in the first week. Might have been possible if they got a well known illustrator to do the character designs, pushed for famous VA and lots of voice acting, threw in a tie-in vocal theme from a popular singer/band, and got a famous composer attached. Instead they went mostly for complete unknowns. Clearly this wasn't a super commercial project though, since it didn't have any of that.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Capcom would be smart to relaunch it next year when it has a lot more content under a title like "Super Street Fighter V" but still offer it as an update for those who have SFV, kinda like SSFIVAE and USFIV
Even with its bad numbers in Japan, Street Fighter x Tekken is sitting at 1.7 million according to Capcom. Did that have an arcade release?Thanks to Oscar for this.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
60k first week sales are pretty good for Setsuna. Not a massive success, obviously, but probably right in line with what Square was looking for, and it should sell decently overseas.
What they can probably do for Japan is to release a new version next year with up to date content on disc and all paid DLC included. Would be a good starting point for people who didn't buy it yet.
DQB hasn't showed legs and this week is the final confirmation of this, Minecraft will soon outsell it.
KillerMan91
Member
Yeah. I guess with Tekken we will get confirmation about the state of market for traditional fighting games in Japan. Does it open closer to SFV (42k) or Tekken 6 (~120k). Should do great WW though.
AoT had pretty high selltrough. It should have legs at least for one extra week of decent sales.
Sammy Samusu
Member
I'm not sure if it's possible, but maybe there's a chance for SFV NX this Nov/Dec? A multiplatform relaunch and with more content would be a nice escape route for Capcom.
Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition 38,557 / 150,162