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[Havoc2049]

So pretty much business as usual for Microsoft and Xbox. All the click bait drama queens have been exposed to be a bunch of frauds.

I could see Sea of Thieves and Call of Duty as Switch 2 launch games. As a SoT player, I'm down for more players.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Did everyone ignore Sarah saying the next generation Xbox will be the biggest generational jump in the history of consoles?

HeisenbergFX4

They say this every gen.

 

[King Dazzar]

What a wet fart of a show. The only mildly interesting thing for me was how uncomfortable all 3 of them appeared and how non-cohesive as a team they came across.

 

[ViciousAgenda]

Those 4 games aren't really gonna sell that much are they?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Great video in which they pretty much confirmed that their vision had absolutely not changed the slightest. They are putting 4 games on other platforms.

Everything else were unrealistic narratives pushed by people. No wonder they were baffled by the rumors...

Game Pass is not going to be stopped. All their games are not coming day-one to competitor platforms. They are not going third party.

So basically what any sane people could expect from the rumors.

What are these 4 games?

 

[GHG]

It’s so funny and weird how fanboys are still trying to spread FUD.
I have every console and I want it to be worth it to have all of them.

What you want doesn't matter.

 

[dem]

Putting games on your #1 rival console is pretty damned new. With a no hard stance NO on everything else. How warm is that water getting?

Phil did say 8 years ago they would NOT put all their games day and date on the PC, fast forward to today.

Is it though? Minecraft Dungeons got shipped elsewhere

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Did everyone ignore Sarah saying the next generation Xbox will be the biggest generational jump in the history of consoles?

HeisenbergFX4

No one listens

I thought they would go into more detail about it since they pretty much have specs locked in

I would guess anyhow

 

[bender]

Xbox games will be exclusive for a year and then it is anyone's guess if they'll be ported.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

We'll be back again at this next year but this time Phil will be announcing Starfield. Anyone who believes it will be only 4 games and no other games are coming to PS and Switch is lying to themselves. This podcast was cope and damage control. The biggest news out of this is that MS is going third party no matter how they choose to damage control it.

 

[Heisenberg007]

We're gonna keep doing this song and dance all this year and next, aren't we ?

Even longer, I'd say. As I said a few days ago, porting games take time and companies also spread game releases to spread revenue and avoid cannibalization.

Sony still hasn't ported 2020 games like Demon's Souls and Ghost of Tsushima.

It'll take Xbox a few years to fully port their catalog. They are doing 5 games in the beginning, which is already more than I expected (As Dusk Falls is the 5th one).

 

[adamsapple]

Oh shit. Now Sony fanboys are starting to sound like Xbox fanboys. Xbox fans have been telling people to wait for the games. Sony fans now following in their footsteps.

"Wait till next year, Starfield announcement will surely come"

 

[Yoboman]

This could have been a tweet 2 weeks ago

 

[kruis]

Mega!

All I wanted to hear is the reinforcement of my account being safe!

theyve fucking nailed it. Happy with this.

The water is nice and warm, isn't it?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Is it though? Minecraft Dungeons got shipped elsewhere

 

[cireza]

What are these 4 games?

I don't care. I own an Xbox.

 

[Atrus]

After watching the whole thing now it’s clear that Microsoft is focussing more on being a third party publisher and it is driven by “business” and “investment” but Phil is too spineless to say anything concrete, even the names of the games that were leaked.

It honestly doesn’t sound like he was the one spearheading the change, just the one who needs to carry out orders to meet the end goal.

They talk about not damaging the established communities of the franchises they’ve bought, cross play and cross saves on other platforms, and introducing games onto other platforms which all hint at more XBOX multiplatform games to come.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I don't care. I own an Xbox.

everyone does, dummy.

 

[FoxMcChief]

This could have been a tweet 2 weeks ago

Absolutely this.

 

[sachos]

34 million Gamepass users, thats a new high no? They looked kinda nervous, specially Phil at the start.

 

[Moridianae]

Why do I feel like their endgame strategy is:

Gradually bring out games to other platforms, but use Game Pass as an ecosystem and take it everywhere.

From there, they can buy out other people and say "Well, you can't fight us on it because you CAN get those games, but only in our streaming ecosystem first unless you wait"

But developers can't get much revenue so they try and GAAS everything.

Ugh. Hope that doesn't happen.

 

[MDSLKTR]

Sarah looking left and right during the speech gave me whiplash

 

[Skelterz]

I’ve found this discussion somewhat tone deaf they talk about the industry not growing and how dangerous it is and how the model needs to shift etc, But Sony and Nintendo are doing just fine? Same old model games get developed people buy game people buy system because great exclusives it’s a tried a true model that works.

It sounds to me like Xbox are unhappy there not successful as the big boys and the reason there not is because there games aren’t as compelling.

 

[ArcaneNLSC]

Not sure what Sony gains by letting MS put games on PS.

30% cut to fund more 3rd party exclusive deals according to Phil

 

[twilo99]

Please, please tell me XBOX IS DED ? I can't take it anymore.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

Like seemingly everything else Xbox does these days, this was a waste of time.

 

[Unknown?]

Classic Phil spencer. "We're gonna learn".

He's been learning the same thing for over a decade now. It's time to put the hand up and ask for help!

 

[cireza]

everyone does, dummy.

Then as with any game, they will announce them when they are ready ? Why should it be different for these 4 games ?

 

[FireFly]

I think the latter part of the video where they talk about the NEED to grow or DIE is more pertinent. He says we have to reach more players and thats why we are porting these games. Then Tom Warren says oh its just a bunch of smaller games like Hifi Rush, Grounded and Pertinent. Im sorry but how much growth/revenue are they getting from these games?

In order for them to grow, they will need to port the big boys. Plain and simple. This is just damage control. Start out small like Gears and Quantum Break then release everything day one.

They also made clear that they don't want to damage Xbox as a platform. So it's basically a balancing act.

I think Halo. Grounded would have also fit the "smaller" games bill.

I think Halo MCC would make a lot of sense. Since it's not a flagship title any more and would drive a lot of interest into the community.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Absolutely this.

Because this ain't it.

this was just damage control

 

[Yekshemesh]

Did everyone ignore Sarah saying the next generation Xbox will be the biggest generational jump in the history of consoles?

HeisenbergFX4

We're ignoring it because it's all a bunch of bullshit PR buzzwords.

 

[Banjo64]

phil just shot himself in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about body language culture (I'm an expert), but playing with your wedding ring and making eye contact with a strong minority female are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in england where you can become successful by being an meek pussy. If you touch your wedding ring in america it means that your platform is going third party, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the burger public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase xbox games for any system, nor will they purchase any of phil’s bullshit. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but phil has alienated an entire market with this move.

phil, publicly apologize and cancel your marriage or you can kiss your business goodbye.

 

[YuLY]

They just oiled you up, this doesnt change anything. It will only continue to dilute the xbox brand and less people will chose it and just get a PS5, that 1:4 only about to get worse. Eventually I'm sure even Starfield will get to PS5.

They oiled you up through PR.

 

[bender]

34 million Gamepass users, thats a new high no? They looked kinda nervous, specially Phil at the start.

It include Game Pass Core which is the rebranded Gold which means their total subscriber base has plummeted.

 

[Draugoth]

Threadu pdated with confirmed stuff

 

[MasterDerico]

I love to see triggered fanboys who want to see other consoles to fail lmao!

Best podcast ever!!

 

[Variahunter]

so case by case?

All according to keikaku.

So keikaku was making Xbox first party games on PS5 from the beginning ?

 

[adamsapple]

Absolutely this.

Sure, could have been.

But I'll take this as it's fun watching the excitement folks created deflate.

 

[twilo99]

28 march

Bring it!

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Then as with any game, they will announce them when they are ready ? Why should it be different for these 4 games ?

I don't care, i own an Xbox

 

[Yoboman]

so case by case?

All according to keikaku.

I don't think you'll find a lot of cases where it won't make sense for Xbox leadership to make more money

 

[Negotiator101]

34 million gamepass subscribers and its still at 25 million according to Gaf

 

[LordCBH]

They just oiled you up, this doesnt change anything. It will only continue to dilute the xbox brand and less people will chose it and just get a PS5, that 1:4 only about to get worse. Eventually I'm sure even Starfield will get to PS5.

They oiled you up through PR.

Starfield Special Edition on PS6 lol

 

[Kappa]

Glad to see that this was as expected a nothingburger that a bunch of dumbasses exposed themselves for.

 

[Crayon]

 

[twilo99]

Any future games to be considered will be online GAAS.

Every single GaaS game should be available on all possible platforms.. that's just the nature of the biz model, so I really don't know why they don't launch Halo Multiplayer on PlayStation and keep the silly single player bs on Xbox

 

[Hohenheim]

Well, that was a whole lot of "nothing new happening". They could have summed this up in a tweet. Why bother making this video?

Come on.. 4 games, two of which are GAAS. And the other two High Fi Rush and Pentiment I suppose? The fanboys went full retard and straight to suicide watch-mode because of this? And of course things might/will change in the future. Every business changes over time.

RIP "Insiders" and hysterical dramaqueen fanboys who sold their consoles and acted like fuckin' lunatics. Embarrasing.

 

[fallingdove]

Gotta hand it to Xbox. This was handled about as well as it could have been handled.

That said, it was obvious that there was more to the story than they were willing to share. Between the lines, it’s clear that they are exploring options with 3rd parties to produce Xbox hardware. I wouldn’t be surprised if the next gen Xbox X represents a insanely priced, insanely spec-ed machine but you can also buy a value oriented machine from Asus or Alienware or whatever.

Also pretty clear that games that have been on Xbox for a year or more will be considered for PlayStation/Switch. The fact that Phil mentioned multiple times that “moving games multiplat is an important component in keeping Xbox around” is telling. Tiny trash games like Pentiment aren’t going to deliver that impact.

 

[dDoc]

So, no mention of the games going to competing platforms?

What did they talk about for over 20 mins?

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Just gonna quote myself...

Alright, but just to be clear, let me list out what I have been saying (sorry I mean the nonsense I have been spouting)... so you can't come and lie about it in the future...

1. In the next 3+ years, MS will be fully multiplatform on releases. be that day one, or timed, but whatever they make, will come to PlayStation and/or Nintendo.
2. It will start with a few games first, and they will say going forward, everything will be done on a case-by-case basis. They will never outright come and say, that everything we make is going to PlayStation too. Never. Not once will that be said. I even mentioned, that its possible they never even mention PlayStation, and instead, just keep saying, other platforms.
3. Focus would shift from Xbox hardware in its traditional form. I never once said they will no longer make any Xbox hardware, their focus will just shift from it. EWven more so than it currently has. At worst, Xbox hardware and its variants can be licensed out to third-party OEMS. Like Nvidia and AMD does with GPUs. This will not start happening till sometime in 2026. At best, they don't do that, but make an Xbox surface like number of devices, premium Xbox, handheld Xbox...etc. But sold for profit and as outliers.

That's what I have been saying. So yh, let's see what happens over the next 3 years because you are looking only as far as next week. I am looking through the next 3 years. Anyone with half a brain can pretty much figure out exactly what they will say.... no, have to say next week. Or you want me to give you potential bullet points for that too?

I have been saying this would be a PR salad. But the core messages are there for anyone that really wants to listen.

Hint: "Growth". Just look at how many times that was said in that video.