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Microsoft Q1: 2.4 M 360+XBO shipped
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shinobi602
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Determining the split will be hard because of the new countries for Xbone. They shipped a lot, and most were the countries where Xbox fans already purchased console from importers. So there will be a lot of shioments, and how knows how much actual sales.
Deputy Moonman
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I don't see anything!
tee hee new page
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Not bad. One sales will pick up as more games come and the dash/media functionality improves.
Anecdotally, the word of mouth around the Xbox One is pretty good.
Anecdotally, the word of mouth around the Xbox One is pretty good.
Gabotron ES
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dat drive by trolling man... your posting history sure is something.
velvet_nitemare
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GarciaHotspur
Member
we can't judge the numbers without compare with the principal comeptitor...
It is meaningful data. They don't ship them to the moon to their own cost.
When you take into account the following points:
-July-Sept. is usually larger sales wise as opposed to Q3 and Q4 of gaming fiscal year.
-It is SHIPPED. Now this is usually ok and that term has been used years by all companies, however, Xone had yet to launch in most of Europe and Japan. The question is how much of the increased 1.3 milion units were Xone units, and how many were used as launch units in previously mentioned countrys? Another question is how did the EU launch go? If they for example devoted 500000 units, how many were sold and how many ar still sitting on the shelf? Personnaly havent heard anyone ever mention xone in my direct surroundings.
-they now mention total hardware numbers, which smells to ''cover up your ars'', like sony did at PS3 launch, and Nintendo did with wii+wiiU.
this might be dissapointing for MS.
-July-Sept. is usually larger sales wise as opposed to Q3 and Q4 of gaming fiscal year.
-It is SHIPPED. Now this is usually ok and that term has been used years by all companies, however, Xone had yet to launch in most of Europe and Japan. The question is how much of the increased 1.3 milion units were Xone units, and how many were used as launch units in previously mentioned countrys? Another question is how did the EU launch go? If they for example devoted 500000 units, how many were sold and how many ar still sitting on the shelf? Personnaly havent heard anyone ever mention xone in my direct surroundings.
-they now mention total hardware numbers, which smells to ''cover up your ars'', like sony did at PS3 launch, and Nintendo did with wii+wiiU.
this might be dissapointing for MS.
brianmcdoogle
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Looks like Nintendo will post theirs Wed Oct 29, 2014 and Sony is October 31, 2014 [Fri] 16:30 (JST)
Yeah. I honestly expected more shipments [even though we know that actual sales in old markets have slowed down].
28 markets that were talked down for months about not doing anything for XB1? Why are they so lucrative for the console all of a sudden?
1.7 - 1.9m XB1 would be a pretty good figure IMO, given the past 9 months.
I didn't get it. 1.2M for the qtr that the XB1 didn't exist is a given. Your logic after that confused me... 700k-900k for the year would give the 360 2M of the total 14.1M in sales. Which would put the XB1 at ~12M.
If you give the XB1 an 80/20 split, your looking at 9-10M for the XB1 and 4-5 M for the 360.
28 markets that are nothing for MS but Media Markts are full of boxes.
Kazuma Kiryu
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The roles truly have reversed.
Microsoft shareholders doesn't care about Xbox. On investors call they never ask anything about Xbox.
I'd have to imagine these markets are tiny for Xbox if the sales in Japan are anything to judge by
28 new markets still means retailer will buy it at launch to see if there is demand.
Schrade
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Not only do people confuse the Wii vs. the Wii-U but now they're starting to confuse the sales performance of the two! Nintendo's Wii-U messaging has failed.
Um, we knew the splits for 360 and XB1 up until march, so don't worry looking at the data that far back.
Q4 last year XB1 did 3.9m, Q1 this year it did 1.1m (bringing total to 5, end of March).
Then Q2 360 + XB1 did 1.1m combined (as I have said I assume this is around 50/50 given last years 360 numbers and the drop it experienced YOY the previous Q, feel free to argue this tho) so 550k. 5.55m
Then this Q. 2.4m. 360 did 1.2m last year. I mean even if 360 was flat (it most certainly wasn't) that is still 1.2m for XB1, so 6.75m.
Likelyhood is 360 dropped 50% yoy and XB1 shipped 1.8m~ so around 7.4m~
Ok, I can follow that. Thanks. I don't completely agree since I expect 360 sales to be slowing down faster.. But I see your logic.
How?
And Sony's own revenue exceeds $70 billion yearly, which is four times their current market cap.
Your point?
Shining Sunshine
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Making money off patents lol.
funkystudent
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Real curious how the XB1 is actually selling.
Do we at least know NPD numbers for the months in that quarter and could make extrapolate... something?
Off the top of my head I would guess it was around 600k for those months in the US.
Do we at least know NPD numbers for the months in that quarter and could make extrapolate... something?
Off the top of my head I would guess it was around 600k for those months in the US.
Hockeymac18
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This seems like a reasonable and logical prediction based on the data.
PS4 is obviously doing better, but as long as the XB1 has decent performance throughout the generation, I'll be content (because the games will keep coming). As a consumer, that's all I care about. I think it's a good sign for the industry that the PS4 and XB1 are doing well so far. I think a lot of people were predicting things would be a lot worse at this point last year.
My calculations don't include 360 staying even or increasing ...
Q2 (the combined 1.1m) I have 360 down 450k yoy (45%) and this Q I assume something similar (600k, down 600k yoy (50%).
We know Q1 earlier this year 360 did 800k, down 500k from 1.3m YOY. So I'm drawing from that.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
are you asking how Microsoft makes its money?
No, I'm not dumb. I just want to know where he got that 24 billion figure from, I'm always interested in reading stuff like this.
Neuromancer
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You're right, I'm not sure the Xbox One has reached WiiU 's sales yet.
Welcome to 2013!
WiiU shipped 1.95m last holiday Q, XB1 has done near that this Q
It's revenue not profit.
He probably thinks the reported revenue is the money they made.
Even then it would be $23.2 billion, and not $24 billion.
theprodigy
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keep holding onto that, it won't last that much longer