St. Louis doesn't mean much as when the NFL was willing to let the bigger la market without a team for years
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MLS announces new expansion franchise in Los Angeles, Magic Johnson among owners
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I'd actually prefer if they moved them towards to the city of Orange. Even if they are backed by Magic Johnson, there is no way they'll have priority over the LA Galaxy in the city of Los Angeles, They'll just end up getting the same team fans as the Chivas USA.
Anaheim already has the Ducks and the Angels, might as well give them an MLS team.
Anaheim already has the Ducks and the Angels, might as well give them an MLS team.
If the MLS is genuinely successful enough to hit and maintain ~22-24 teams, I hope they actually take a little bit of time to develop a true MLS-managed minor league and implement a promotion/relegation system, instead of just growing the MLS itself to 25+.
I've always heard it wasn't possible since the teams have to pay so much to get in and they wouldn't tolerate the loss in revenue from being relegated.
But maybe it could work if each FC also owned their minor-league equivalent? IDK.
I just want US Soccer to sort it out
I've always heard it wasn't possible since the teams have to pay so much to get in and they wouldn't tolerate the loss in revenue from being relegated.
But maybe it could work if each FC also owned their minor-league equivalent? IDK.
I just want US Soccer to sort it out
Frosty Droid
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Now the MLS needs to abandon the salary cap.
Squirrel Killer
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Pro/rel sucks for top level sports leagues. Even the European ones.If the MLS is genuinely successful enough to hit and maintain ~22-24 teams, I hope they actually take a little bit of time to develop a true MLS-managed minor league and implement a promotion/relegation system, instead of just growing the MLS itself to 25+.
I've always heard it wasn't possible since the teams have to pay so much to get in and they wouldn't tolerate the loss in revenue from being relegated.
But maybe it could work if each FC also owned their minor-league equivalent? IDK.
I just want US Soccer to sort it out
Sure, if they want to kill the league.
vagabondarts
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Here in Atlanta I'm just excited to be getting one MLS team, LA gets 2!
I'm excited
I'm excited
Rafa=FedKilla
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Come on, please get a little more creative with the name please.
Frosty Droid
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The salary cap is keeping the league mired in mediocrity. They'll never be within spitting distance of the Premier League (or its revenues) if they put short-term profitably of every club before long-term growth.
The NBA and NFL can get away with propping up smaller market teams because they have monopoly on talent and no credible international competition, that's not the case with MLS.
Squirrel Killer
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The salary cap is keeping the league financially viable.
Short-term profitability will lead to long-term growth. The reason rich people are currently lining up to hand over $80-100 million expansion fees to MLS is because the teams are no longer hemorrhaging money.
No one is saying that the salary cap should remain as low as it is forever. Obviously it should increase over time, as revenues increase (and MLS' new $720 million TV deal kicks in next season, with CBA negotiations happening this offseason).
Out of control unsustainable spending by teams like the New York Cosmos is what killed the NASL and left the US without a professional soccer league for over a decade.
jamesinclair
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Have you seen the population numbers?
ThatCrazyGuy
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I wonder were they are gonna stick the stadium. Home Depot is in Carson and central already kinda. More toward North LA, or the OC?
Squirrel Killer
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Are you asking for St Louis proper or the metro area?
smokeandmirrors
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Lack of any salary cap is what led to the NASL folding all those years back.
It's not going anywhere.
Earvin Magic Johnson @MagicJohnson
I'm so happy to announce that I am one of the owners of the new @MLS team in LA the Los Angeles Football Club! @LAFC #LAFC2017
Thank you to my partner @PeterGuber for allowing me to join the ownership group for the new team @LAFC! #LAFC2017
Who would've ever thought a kid from Lansing, Michigan would own a soccer team! Mom & Dad look at me now! Lol
Wow! First the Dodgers, then WNBA with the Sparks and now MLS ownership with the Los Angeles Football Club! #LAFC2017
With MLS Commissioner Don Garber, @LAFC owners Henry Nguyen & Peter Guber!
Hanging out with fellow @LAFC Owners @Nomar5, @MiaHamm and @tonyrobbins! #LAFC2017
Frosty Droid
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A salary cap doesn't exist to keep a league from bankruptcy, it exists to redistribute revenue from the players to the owners. It's essentially a tax on the players that keeps unprofitable small-market teams in the black and allows big market teams to pocket a larger share of the revenue than they would be able to if players were allowed to shop their talents in a free market. Teams that can't turn profits should be allowed to fail.
MLS was on life support a decade ago with a rigid salary cap. Thanks to the Designated Player Rule, star players like David Beckham were able to come stateside and help the league grow. This growth would not have been possible if the league had maintained a hard salary cap.
NASL collapsed due to incompetent management, not the lack of a salary cap.
... and so there's no hard salary cap now. In fact the number of designated players allowed per team has increased from one to three. That can obviously be increased further, but MLS will do so at its own pace.
smokeandmirrors
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The salary cap is part of the issue but you also need to raise the league minimum salary, which I think is more important.
outunderthestars
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Still no Carolina team.
Still no Carolina team.
4 Carolina teams in NASL (Carolina Railhawks) and USL (Charlotte Independence, Charleston Battery, Wilmington Hammerheads), with MLS coming to Atlanta in 2017.
outunderthestars
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I didnt even k ow that the USL was a thing, and I am in charge of a project that will create a stadium for one of the teams. God I am out of touch when it comes to soccer.
The Charlotte Independence, conversion of American Legion Memorial Stadium into a soccer stadium by cutting out some of the seats? You're really in charge of that?
I like the logo that's currently winning the fan vote on the team's website...
Hope the new stadium is near Downtown LA. Carson is way too far and its the main reason why I stopped going. I think they can be successful if they appeal to the latino crowd in an effective way, like having players they actually care about plus interesting signings ala Lampard and David Villa.
They like to go all euro chic in the MLS, I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing, and LA FC sounds good to me, but it can get fucking silly at times like with Real Salt Lake.
Purple Cheeto
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It takes like 10 minutes to get from downtown to the coliseum via the train these days. Honestly the train is absolutely the best way to get to USC/Kings/Clippers/Lakers games these days.
If they put the stadium anywhere within walking distance of a train stop it'll be a success. If not it'll be a disaster.
I live near Culver City and have never been to a Galaxy game because I don't want to drive to Carson. If I can get to the new team via the train I'll go, it's pretty much that simple.
smokeandmirrors
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Real Salt Lake is the only one that really bothers me.
I mean there is the red bulls but that's mainly due to the corporate bullshit behind it. Although they'd be fine as the red bulls without the energy drink association with it so idk.
I kinda like the different naming schemes. it's like a melting pot of names and is kinda uniquely american. Although if any team decides to pick CSKA as a name I may quit watching MLS altogether.
but Dynamo is okay?
smokeandmirrors
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alfredofroylan
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In Guadalajara, Vergara is doing terrible in Mexico right now.
Video: Magic Johnson, Mia Hamm, Henry Nguyen & LAFC Owners Discuss New Club
Members of the ownership group for Los Angeles Football Club, the new Major League Soccer team in Los Angeles, discuss the opportunity to join MLS.
Members of the ownership group for Los Angeles Football Club, the new Major League Soccer team in Los Angeles, discuss the opportunity to join MLS.
Squirrel Killer
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Not sure how much I like the ownership group trying to define and name a supporters group. "If you join us now, 3 years before we get the second team in LA to join the other 20 or so MLS teams, we'll call you the "LA Originals!""
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
so Chivas is dead eh
I think "LA Originals" is basically just their version of what other teams have done, for example the Atlanta MLS team has a "Founders Club", and San Jose will have a "Devotion Wall" at their new stadium with people's names etched into it.
Nomad Blue
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I guess he's only one of many owners, so won't be able to spectacularly fuck things up like he has done at Cardiff City. Plus they're starting with a blank canvas, so colours/badge design changes can't piss anyone off yet (unless their team colour is blue and it comes out that was Tan's choice!).
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