dr_rus
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is CFL going to be same arch as skylake again?
Most likely, with KBL tweaks of course. I'm also expecting them to use the old ring bus in CFL instead of the new mesh of SKX.
is CFL going to be same arch as skylake again?
that is a sexy looking card.
Thanks! It worked!
But omg this is way too scary for me... I got it up to 2076MHz and like close to 2000 points higher in 3DMarks Firestrike than stock clocking but started seeing green flashing squares by the end of the test :S So I think I'm graying out the voltage controls again lol
Haha okay okay I'll try one more time tonightBreathe, man. Everything's going to be fine!
Just start lowering your clocks and slightly until you no longer see the artifacts during bench. Once you've found a good spot, you can lower voltage to see if you can still maintain them.
Did you unlock your voltage monitoring? What's the max voltage the card is hitting on those 2076 runs?
I can teach you how to create some voltage curves. That's the best way to find the perfect performance/voltage balance.
Haha okay okay I'll try one more time tonight
I didn't catch the voltage, I had set it to +70 though, I think 650mV was the idle desktop voltage. My plan was to copy the overclocking seen in the pic on Guru3D's Lightning Z review, they had +100 on voltage and +700 on memory but once I applied those settings I started seeing strange squares right on the desktop when idle, so I deactivated it directly.
I'm not running in LN2 mode now btw.
Is the green squares an effect from too high voltage, too high core clock or too high memory clock?
I did another try tonight but I didn't do much better tbh, mem clock +450 and voltage +40 is stable for benchmarking but an hour of No Man's Sky and it crashed :/Too high mem or core clock (at max voltage), or too high mem or core clock at too low a voltage.
700 is a massive bump in memory; very few cards will hold that stable (including mine and I'm water-cooled and giving the card up to 1.1v).
If you can maintain 2076 on core you're probably in like the 80th percentile, which is really good. Then the question is how much voltage is your card requiring for it and what are your temps after x amount of time at that level.
The Kingpin will cost 999 USD...
https://videocardz.com/press-release/evga-announces-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-kingpin-for-999-usd
Thinking of doing a new build around Black Friday, should I go with a 1080 Ti, or wait for the next hotness?
Thinking of doing a new build around Black Friday, should I go with a 1080 Ti, or wait for the next hotness?
You can always upgrade later.
That was part of the question, but what would I put into a new build in the mean time that wouldn't be underpowered while I wait? I'm currently running a GTX 980, I could always just recycle that for the moment.
That was part of the question, but what would I put into a new build in the mean time that wouldn't be underpowered while I wait? I'm currently running a GTX 980, I could always just recycle that for the moment.
I mean, you can get a 1080Ti and then upgrade to a new hotness once it will hit the market.
The Kingpin will cost 999 USD...
https://videocardz.com/press-release/evga-announces-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-kingpin-for-999-usd
Nah, I honestly believe it's all about what's available once you jump in. 1080Ti's are all hardcore niche cards, people will simply buy what's best reviewed at the time they jump in. Some go for hybrids and strip the cards and get their own cooler etc because they like the modding but $100 more is seriously nothing when you've already accepted to pay ~$800 for a graphics card upgrade. If Lightning Z and Kingpin were available at launch then you can bet that more people here would've bought them, no doubt.And the Lightning turned out to be $870. Also not worth it.
But yeah, they're pretty niche hardcore overclocking cards. People who are going to stick to air cooling probably already bought their 1080TI of choice or simply won't bother with those 2 cards due to the price.
Just tried the Strix OC bios during launch with modified voltage on my EVGA 1080TI ICX Black Edition. I can now hit constant 2063mhz @55C while running Superposition.
Score of 6331
Rest of the spec:
3770K @ 4.7ghz
16GB of DDR3 1600mhz OC to 2002mhz
Windows 10
I think I can improve it even further.
Nice. How much voltage are you giving it?
All this talk of graphics card upgrades, might as well put my 390 on Craigslist, see if I can't make a decent return on it.
Definitely need at least a 1070 now that I'm at 1440p
Nah, I honestly believe it's all about what's available once you jump in. 1080Ti's are all hardcore niche cards, people will simply buy what's best reviewed at the time they jump in. Some go for hybrids and strip the cards and get their own cooler etc because they like the modding but $100 more is seriously nothing when you've already accepted to pay ~$800 for a graphics card upgrade. If Lightning Z and Kingpin were available at launch then you can bet that more people here would've bought them, no doubt.
Imo, Kingpin looks great! Obviously not worth the money but none of the 1080Ti's are worth the money imo. Someone here needs to jump in and post some clocking results of that beast! =)
As for myself I bought the Lightning Z simply because I didn't jump off the fence until the Lightning launched. Pretending to be sane and go for a budget alternative and buy a cheaper 1080Ti seems totally strange to me when they're all so expensive. I just went with Lightning Z because I jumped in late and it reviewed so well. There was nothing more to it really. If I cared about the price I would've bought a $400 card instead![]()
Yeah it's the downside of PC gaming for sure, I've only had a gaming PC for 4 years and the 1080Ti Lightning Z is my 3rd card. :/ 780ti-980ti-1080ti. I love new tech and I don't like to wait. Bad combo!This "waiting game" with VGA never ends. I just bought an 4k/HDR TV and my 1070 G1 can't handle it. So I dont know if I buy an 1080Ti now or wait for Volta. If nvidia could at least say the release date for Volta would make things way easier. =/
Which 1080ti is the best bang for your buck? Coming from a 980ti.
This "waiting game" with VGA never ends. I just bought an 4k/HDR TV and my 1070 G1 can't handle it. So I dont know if I buy an 1080Ti now or wait for Volta. If nvidia could at least say the release date for Volta would make things way easier. =/
The Digital Foundry approach to getting budget 4k gameplay on a 970 (targeting 30hz mainly of course) was to render subnatively - 1800p is a pretty good one, being 83% of a 2160p presentation and really helping to alleviate some of those 4k bottlenecks.
A TV will last longer than a videocard in most cases, so I'm planning to take this approach with my 980ti (basically on par with your 1070) @ 4k. Rendering most games at 1440p or 1800p unless they're lightweight enough for full 4k. At some point in the future when I upgrade to a Volta x80ti, I will probably be able to get the full 4k experience on most titles @ 60hz. A subnative 4k presentation is still a lot better looking than a native 1080p presentation, so it feels inadvisable to say "go for a 1080ti now!' because ultimately it will still show it's limits in some cases and the value per dollar is lower. If you want the best of the best, that's totally fine too, it's just something to keep in mind if you're value conscious.
I would buy a 1440p monitor or a 4K one but really can't atm, I only got a new PC because a friend traveled to the US and brought me the parts. A 4K monitor costs roughly U$855 in Brazil.The point is, if you spend 1200$ for cpu and gpu (7700k and 1080ti) at least buy a 1440p 144hz monitor.
You can have 100+ fps with a 1070 in any game, just don't max out stupid settings like shadows, reflections and msaa or ssaa.
Damn, I'm curious now, will check it out asap.I don't think screens do Wildlands justice. It looks fantastic! It's open world and there's a lot going on, great lighting model, rendering of materials and effects, etc. But yes, it's extremely intensive. My wife's 1070, using the in-game bench, was shy of 60 fps average on Ultra.
Ubisoft has some of the best-looking games out right now- Wildlands and last year's The Division. Oddly those two and Watch Dogs 2 are on three different engines, according to my google search, at least.
TW3 can run on a 1080 Ti at 4K60 maxed without issue so you are set there.
Bottlenecked, really? :|True, but as the framerates get higher, it becomes increasingly likely that you'll be bottlenecked by your CPU. Which is a problem, as while you have plenty of granularity when it comes to enabling and disabling stuff that stresses the GPU, there doesn't tend to be much you can do to reduce the CPU load.
Oh, hmmmmm.CFL is mainstream platform (socket 1151) hexacore being built on the same 14nm as KBL/SKX.
CNL is a 10nm shrink of KBL and it will come to notebook markets first, in the form of 2C and 4C dies with iGPU. They will probably make an 1151 6C on it too but no one knows when this will happen - likely no sooner than a year from now.
Oh, hmmmmm.
So Coffee is 8XXX series and Cannon is 9XXX.
Buy -> sell -> buy -> sell -> buy.... always takes the pain out of upgrading for me. Also, impatience.
Yeah it's the downside of PC gaming for sure, I've only had a gaming PC for 4 years and the 1080Ti Lightning Z is my 3rd card. :/ 780ti-980ti-1080ti. I love new tech and I don't like to wait. Bad combo!![]()
Oh shit, really?? I was itching to get the 7800X, but Ill wait for the 8600K/8700K then.Most likely, yes. It's also expected that first CFLs (K-variants specifically with unlocked OC) will launch in about a month.
okay I guess I shouldn't complain ;DMy current tower was built end of January 2016 and I'm already on my third card. 390 to fury to 1080 ti SC2.
Well that makes things a lot better!I was able to resell both of them for around what I bought them at which was nice.
There's a lot of people complaining about Nvidia drivers and the Creators update, generally.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/6oubum/nvidia_confirms_stuttering_fps_drops_lag_problems/
Try a known old stable version (382.53) and see if it fixes it.
Well that makes things a lot better!
I've sold mine for about a third of what I bought them for.But I still think it's okay. I've accepted that this hobby is expensive. I'm just glad that I hasn't been forced to swap the CPU/RAM/MB atleast. I definitely notice that the rig is a bit bottlenecked though, the GPU is fast as lightning (lol) but I still don't get nearly as high scores on benchmarks as I see on overclocking articles with the same graphics card. But it's fast enough for now, I'll probably upgrade the whole rig when I jump in on 4K instead, I'm still on 1080p screens.
There's a lot of people complaining about Nvidia drivers and the Creators update, generally.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/6oubum/nvidia_confirms_stuttering_fps_drops_lag_problems/
Try a known old stable version (382.53) and see if it fixes it.
I was rockin' 3x 980Tis until a few months ago and now have a single 1080Ti. I game @ 4k/60Hz.
A single 1080Ti is fine @ 4k for games like Doom but for more demanding games it's not really enough. Does it pay to pick up a 2nd 1080Ti at this point or should I just wait for Volta? Not many new games support SLI anymore anyways.
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Alright, here are my scores and parameters:
Specs:
3770K @ 4.7GHZ
ASUS Sabertooth Z77
4x4GB Corsair DDR3 1600mhz @ 2002mhz
EVGA GTX 1080 TI Black Edition OC ICX
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