Shadow_FFVI
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NX will launch in March 2017 globally, won't be at E3 (focusing on Zelda instead)
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ElectricBlanketFire
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They already said why: To make sure it has games.
The thread he's talking about didn't exist. There was never a thread saying NX was more powerful than PS4K (what he's saying). There was a leak from LCGeek about the NX CPU being better than PS4, that was it.
It was a pretty solid leak, fwiw.
Ah my mistake then. I'm sleepy and been up all night. I think I'm going to bed though it's noon now. Stuff can get so heated and keeps you awake, man! I need to stop that.
Dark Cloud
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No, that's for why it's launching next year. I'm talking about why they can't just show the NX at E3 and show trailers of its launch games.
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Deleted member 752119
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The competition isn't going to get easier. It's damn tough to launch a console mid generation when other companies already have a big segment of the market. Even more so with this iterative future where people who haven't jumped on board yet are probably more likely to grab a PS Neo or Xbox 1.5 with their big existing libraries than a new console.
There were several people (mostly fanboys) saying/speculating that the Neo and Xbox 1.5 where a thing as Sony/MS were scared of how powerful the NX was/is going to be.
But I don't think many took it as more than Ninty fanboy ramblings.
I definitely think EA will at least try Madden 18 on the NX but I don't think it's going to do well.
If you have nothing to attract a userbase at launch then you are going to face an uphill battle to try and attract them months/years later. Especially in a genre like sports gaming in which people constantly move from one version to the next and are greatly influenced by what systems their friends are playing on to play with them online.
ElectricBlanketFire
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I was joking.
I don't think the NX is a traditional console, they tried that with the Gamecube and the WiiU sort of and they weren't as successful. Maybe they're going with the 'cool toy' marketing style of the Wii. Which would explain why they're not treating it as a traditional console with the E3 reveal and all that... Or maybe Nintendo is doomed.
I'm just using madden as third party support in general.
I thought the whole point of nx is to get the third party support back? If they don't your looking at another wii u situation.
Dark Cloud
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Didn't come off as a joke.
Chet Rippo
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The only good thing to come from this
literally all I was saying. E3 is still quite relevant but that relevancy is waning.
So... How would you feel if NX was the final name? So far every time they mentioned the project it was explicitly referred as a codename, but yesterday on Twitter Nintendo said NX multiple times (even with a hashtag) and didn't care to say it was a codename.
This makes me this they are gonna do the same thing that they did with Nintendo 3DS and the initial temporary name ended up being final one.
This makes me this they are gonna do the same thing that they did with Nintendo 3DS and the initial temporary name ended up being final one.
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Deleted member 752119
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Is there anything to read into this quote:
I know Iwata said repeatedly that it wouldn't be a hybrid, but things have changed with his passing and that quote sounds hybrid-esque. Not "merely" a "handheld" OR "stationary console."
Sucks we have to wait so long to even no what the NX hardware is in general.
I know Iwata said repeatedly that it wouldn't be a hybrid, but things have changed with his passing and that quote sounds hybrid-esque. Not "merely" a "handheld" OR "stationary console."
Sucks we have to wait so long to even no what the NX hardware is in general.
This is true. Nintendo needs sports titles on their system and they need them to sell. It is an important genre and without them you're missing a large chunk of people buying your system. I don't care if Nintendo has to make their own by rebranding their ancient sports titles for a more modern age, they need sports titles.
Anyway, I'm going to go pass out in bed. Cya'll later!
I mean like by the time Madden '18 I guess it could get a NX version, by then NX would be a few months old.
protomouse
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What rumor?
pinkurocket
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E3 is gonna be such a bore. ):
I hope the NX reveal will be super hardcore then. E3 is pretty much the one time where all eyes are on the big three regardless of which platform people prefer.
I hope the NX reveal will be super hardcore then. E3 is pretty much the one time where all eyes are on the big three regardless of which platform people prefer.
I'm beginning to think that the the "super strict NDA" thing might just be "hardly anyone has any freaking dev kits" or something... H
TheSpaceBetween
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If they are banking on Zelda to be the game people get NX for, why are they dedicating nearly their entire E3 plans to showing off the Wii U version?
brainchild
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What is he even saying? What the fuck is it then? A magical jewel? I'm so confused.
brandonh83
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Nintendo is playing their own game now. That much is clear. E3 is whatever to them now it seems.
Naaaaah. Or better, the super strict NDAs don't mean that dev kits are everywhere, one doesn't negate the other. But the super strict NDAs are true, and...there are dev kits/SDKs out there, otherwise we wouldn't have heard rumours about Namco games (including Smash), "key partners" getting kits earlier with broader distribution slated later, games in beta earlier this year with an NX sku coming. We need to see when the distribution will spread, if anyone will live enough to tell us before ninjas getting him/her.
Actually, it seems Emily Rogers is aware of some third party projects as well, as she tweeted today.
The Abominable Snowman
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3DS launch was marred by price and games availability, yes, but a lot of that game availability was offset by the DS still getting lots of great support by third parties.
Handheld launches don't really need a glut of titles, just a few big titles and you're fine. Attachment rates for handhelds are far lower than console, and I'm sure some of that mobile/digital content will get a big push on NX at launch, covering their bases. The 3DS still performed 'fine' for what it was, but yeah the sales were (and still are) dismal compared to its predecessor/s. It still isn't setting the world on fire.
Sadly thought this would be the case. I don't think Nintendo will ever get their "A game" back, because they just don't understand the console market anymore and don't compete.
To me at this point, it's better for me if NX bombs, and it probably will. Them being 3rd party seems more attractive to me at this point. They should just focus on what they're good at.
Only sad thing is handhelds may die if Nintendo leaves the console space,but I would think Sony would tap into that.
Just the Wii U having a 4 year gen, just not good enough and I don't think it would help them when the mass audience sees that and Nintendo expect them to jump to NX? Nintendo just don't deserve a free pass, I feel they need a "we're back" moment, but I don't think they will, they probably couldn't, I can't see 3rd parties being close to them like they are with PS and Xbox now.
To me at this point, it's better for me if NX bombs, and it probably will. Them being 3rd party seems more attractive to me at this point. They should just focus on what they're good at.
Only sad thing is handhelds may die if Nintendo leaves the console space,but I would think Sony would tap into that.
Just the Wii U having a 4 year gen, just not good enough and I don't think it would help them when the mass audience sees that and Nintendo expect them to jump to NX? Nintendo just don't deserve a free pass, I feel they need a "we're back" moment, but I don't think they will, they probably couldn't, I can't see 3rd parties being close to them like they are with PS and Xbox now.
GabeTheGrouch76
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I wasn't expecting anything much and I'm still disappointed. Well, that and stupefied.
I can take the NX being delayed to 2017, but man, no new information until late 2016 (not even anything about it at E3?), Zelda U being delayed, Zelda U being the only playable game at their E3 booth? Everything just reads as a complete bummer and makes me wonder what on earth is going on with the company.
One would think and expect, based on these decisions, that Zelda U and especially NX are be two grandiose masterpieces in the making that will hit every note dead-on and exceed expectations with flying colors. The bit on NX "not replacing" the 3DS and Wii U and being "a brand new concept" isn't really grabbing my enthusiasm either, going by how the past years has turned out.
Everything about this news just reads me as an extremely incoherent direction and implies some really messy problems behind the scenes. Hopefully the new restructure can turn things around, but starting out with this bit of news isn't instilling in me any confidence.
I can take the NX being delayed to 2017, but man, no new information until late 2016 (not even anything about it at E3?), Zelda U being delayed, Zelda U being the only playable game at their E3 booth? Everything just reads as a complete bummer and makes me wonder what on earth is going on with the company.
One would think and expect, based on these decisions, that Zelda U and especially NX are be two grandiose masterpieces in the making that will hit every note dead-on and exceed expectations with flying colors. The bit on NX "not replacing" the 3DS and Wii U and being "a brand new concept" isn't really grabbing my enthusiasm either, going by how the past years has turned out.
Everything about this news just reads me as an extremely incoherent direction and implies some really messy problems behind the scenes. Hopefully the new restructure can turn things around, but starting out with this bit of news isn't instilling in me any confidence.
Murder. She Wrote
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Nintendo never ceases to amaze...
It's possible to believe something has gone wrong with the NX rollout and announcement plans were scrapped while also acknowledging the evolving role of E3 in the eyes of multiple publishers moving forward.
The guy who said the CPU thing has leaked a bunch of info about the Wii & GameCube way back when, so he's reliable.
Jessie.Bristol
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I was hoping to see what Nintendo's vision for their Next-Gen console was at E3... guess I'll have to keep waiting. Seems like Nintendo is going to have a pretty weak E3 this year aside from Zelda being playable (just too bad it'll only be playable on Wii U since NX isn't there).
LegendofLex
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Zelda getting delayed to 2017 makes it really obvious that NX was planned for 2016 until very recently.
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I don't think that it's that they don't understand the core gamer market so much as it is that their IP, design philosophies, genres of expertise and art styles just don't appeal to that market and haven't really since the N64 era.
They just failed to secure some western dev teams to add exclusives that appeal to the core market post N64 (with a few GameCube exceptions like RE4 and Eternal Darkness). The N64 had Mario, Zelda et al, but also had Goldeneye, Perfect Dark Turok 1 & 2 etc. as exclusives.
Now they lack those type of exclusives and struggle to appeal to the core gamer market as Sony, and to a lesser extent MS, have cornered that over the past 3 generations. Thus it will be hard for them to every break back into that market.
So they're left either trying to create a new market again somehow (like they did with Wii and DS), or finding away to make enough profits off their sizeable niche of diehard fans.
They seem to be doing more of the latter with the focus on getting more first party games out, more DLC, Amiibo, licensing IPs out, themeparks etc.
Father_Brain
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Bolded is false. They haven't announced anything about the timeframe for the NX reveal beyond that it'll be at some point after E3, and October is about the absolute latest they can reveal it if the March date sticks.
NOLA_Gaffer
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Maybe because they will be strongly similiar versions ? If it's just graphics improvements or minor gimmick, what's the difference btw showing Zelda wii U or NX ?
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