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Phil Spencer: You can share your Xbox One games with any 10 people
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idk from the way major said it, it sounded like its like a real library. If someone checks out a game in the library you can't, but you can play other games in the library that no one else is.
John Caboose
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That's what I gathered too. We'll see exactly how they word it officially this week on Majors blog.
Exactly. Also don't leave it up to publishers...
John Caboose
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Arms races? I dunno what sorta people you had in mind for your group but for me it's just going to be me and a couple of my close friends. Maybe some not so close too.
dragonelite
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In those cases digital sharing is the saver route.
Disk dont get damaged or lost in the cloud.
Or against those angry ex girl friends seen enough of those pictures get posted on reddit this gen.
MS uses 2 different terms in their communications: 'Entire Game Library' and 'Shared Games Library'.
Do we have any confirmation that all games can be shared? Or will the devs have a say in the matter? Still not clear on that one.
Also, what are the downloadspeeds of the Xbox servers? I can download Steamgames at a rate of 12-13 Megabytes/second. Is this the same with MS?
Do we have any confirmation that all games can be shared? Or will the devs have a say in the matter? Still not clear on that one.
Also, what are the downloadspeeds of the Xbox servers? I can download Steamgames at a rate of 12-13 Megabytes/second. Is this the same with MS?
Isn't this essentially just like the current PS3 system...you can have any 2 consoles sharing any games & content at any one time, however with PS3 you can both play online too.
For example, I played online with my son on a digital copy of RDR which was my PS+ title.
All you have to do is have your account details on as many PS3s as you want (ie your whole family) and then whoever wants to play gets the 2 'active' slots.
For example, I played online with my son on a digital copy of RDR which was my PS+ title.
All you have to do is have your account details on as many PS3s as you want (ie your whole family) and then whoever wants to play gets the 2 'active' slots.
Bolded part is fine for family, but not something I'd really want to do outside of that.
entremet
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That contradicts the mention that the original owner will always have access, though.
Vestal
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Considering the account associated with the Xbox is 1 account to rule them all basically I say @#$@#$@ NO.
Account sharing is not something I am very high on. I personally can't believe Sony actually encourages this in their system. Its horrible, you simply never EVER share your account on anything.
entremet
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Same. I guess some people here are more trusting, but it's not my bag at all.
Vestal
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how different is it from playing split screen.
KnockOneOff
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Yeah if your not online, but kinda the same as it is now with a phycial copy except without the leg work.
But I think as soon as you went online they would be locked out
entremet
Member
Again, it has been mentioned that original owner will never get locked from his games.
That would mean that if I find someone who wants to buy the same single player game as me, it saves me 30 bucks. I like that idea
SmokedMeat
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So if I get the latest game, does it automatically become shareable with 10 other people, or can the user deem it shareable?
I can't imagine it being a great thing buying a new game, but being unable to access it later in the day, when I want to, because someone on my friend's list is playing it.
I can't imagine it being a great thing buying a new game, but being unable to access it later in the day, when I want to, because someone on my friend's list is playing it.
As said 2 posts above yours, they've said you never get locked out of your own games.
Ramocalypse
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I have a hard tiime believing this isn't something that was implemented or adjusted in response to the backlash. Otherwise why the hell would they not tout what is IMO the BEST feature of thier system? At best they didn't understand the value of it to the consumer, which is just as dumb IMO.
Alx
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They announced it at the exact same time as the DRM and used market control, just before E3. So it was before most of the backlash (that really started after the Sony conference).
I very much doubt it. Since everything is digital in the MS system, when you're sharing a game, you're actually sharing a license. And with region locking, you only have a license for a game of your own region, so it shouldn't be valid outside of it.
Ramocalypse
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THE:MILKMAN
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Quick question.
I borrow Halo 5 and download it (say 40GB) and then another person wants it. Does the game just get locked from me or do I have to delete and re-download again when the other guy is done?
I assume the former.
I borrow Halo 5 and download it (say 40GB) and then another person wants it. Does the game just get locked from me or do I have to delete and re-download again when the other guy is done?
I assume the former.
Stone Ocean
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I don't think even MS would be retarded enough to do the latter.
that yusuf guy said you could add someone who is 3000 miles away into your family sharing
3k miles can still be inside one region though.
Stone Ocean
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Someone from East Coast sharing a game with someone from Hawaii or Alaska. That's around 5000 miles.
THE:MILKMAN
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I agree, but these are just the sort of details that are badly needed.
Alx
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Yes I don't think you would be asked to delete the game from your hard drive. The console doesn't really care about what is installed or not, but what you're allowed to run or not.
In a previous example, Phil Harrison (I think) explained how you could go to a friend with your disk, install the game on his console and play it with your own account. Then when you're gone, he still has the game on his drive, but cannot play it unless he buys it on his own.
That's not the sharing scenario, but it shows that the system is perfectly fine with leaving installations of different games on different consoles. Actually it could also help selling games : in your case you already have the full Halo 5 on your system, you started playing it and liked it, but if because of the sharing rules or possible restrictions you cannot play it at a given moment, you'd be tempted to buy it for yourself.
Interesting.
THE:MILKMAN
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When Mehdi said 3000 miles he was basically saying America/NA IMO. If region locking is on physical discs, I can't see it not applying to digital.
Alx said:
That makes sense. Though I can imagine the targeted ads/hard sell! /Cynicism
Enordash
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From all of the prior discussion, this seems to be the case. From what I can tell, this system gets completely out of control when you try to balance 10 people. If it is true that you and one other person can play a shared game concurrently, the most rewarding decision would be to find only one other person to share games with. You would never have the lock out issue this way. Cutting game cost to $30 (assuming you both want the game) with absolutely no repercussion seems like an amazing deal. If this is the case, gaming on the Xbox One will actually be the cheaper option in the coming gen (assuming you buy more than 3 games in it's life-cycle). Perhaps all of the people griefing MS about Sony's better price tag should take note of this policy.
If there is anything incorrect here, please let me know.
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this is pretty much what I've been saying as well, someone shot me down saying 'you can do that on ps3 right now!' I don't have a ps3 so no idea.
Major Nelson said he would write one up, didn't say when we would see it though. I would assume sometime later this week.
Cool. I am sure it will be up here as soon as it drops to be picked apart again, as well as it should be.
Enordash
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I have a PS3 and have no idea, lol. Mine has been gathering dust for a good while now. Finally unpacked it to play The Last of Us.
I imagine today is first day back for plenty of MS employees who were at E3 Major Nelson included. I would hope they take their time this week creating clear and understandable info before they even try to post anything.
Phawx
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Hey guys,
Could we possibly coordinate some group effort here to tweet @majornelson with an updated list of questions we have on the family share plan?
It's going to suck real bad if Major Nelson updates his post and leaves out some information and we are stuck yet again in this endless cycle of "family share can't work like that, it works like this <cites thing>" until the Xbox One comes out.
I've been trying a one man attempt, but reddit has just as many downvotes (wtf) as it does upvotes. Every other avenue I've been brushed off or ignored. I did manage to get one Xbox rep to take a look at the list, but we really need to make sure Major Nelson addresses all of the use cases we have questions for.
Again, perhaps it would be better to get an updated list of questions and make a new thread with the specific intention of respectfully tweeting @majornelson so that all of Neogaf (that cares about family share) could see it front and center and not buried in a Phil Spencer post. (obviously I'm not condoning spamming his feed. But 1 @ per person that cares should be enough to get on his radar)
As it is, how many of us are keeping up with this thread? The family share is really seeming like the one feature that makes putting up with the auth check-ins and stuff worth it, potentially. It'd be super if we could get some concrete answers before having to own the physical hardware to find out.
Or perhaps I'm the only one who is eagerly waiting for answers.
Could we possibly coordinate some group effort here to tweet @majornelson with an updated list of questions we have on the family share plan?
It's going to suck real bad if Major Nelson updates his post and leaves out some information and we are stuck yet again in this endless cycle of "family share can't work like that, it works like this <cites thing>" until the Xbox One comes out.
I've been trying a one man attempt, but reddit has just as many downvotes (wtf) as it does upvotes. Every other avenue I've been brushed off or ignored. I did manage to get one Xbox rep to take a look at the list, but we really need to make sure Major Nelson addresses all of the use cases we have questions for.
Again, perhaps it would be better to get an updated list of questions and make a new thread with the specific intention of respectfully tweeting @majornelson so that all of Neogaf (that cares about family share) could see it front and center and not buried in a Phil Spencer post. (obviously I'm not condoning spamming his feed. But 1 @ per person that cares should be enough to get on his radar)
As it is, how many of us are keeping up with this thread? The family share is really seeming like the one feature that makes putting up with the auth check-ins and stuff worth it, potentially. It'd be super if we could get some concrete answers before having to own the physical hardware to find out.
Or perhaps I'm the only one who is eagerly waiting for answers.
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