PSVR for $399.99!!!
*Required PS Camera not included. Retails for $59.99
I don't think that would go over well either...
It is new tech, but sony isnt playing with the same rules as their competitors. As Far as I know oculus and vive only make money on the vr units, so they have to build in a healthy profit. Sony makes money on every game sold, and they get additional revenue sources such as psplus. So they can and will price the unit much closer to cost. A $500 price tag would be insane considering ps4s are selling between $299 and 349. It will not be more thN $399, but really in my opinion they have to get it lower than that if they expect people to bite. A $400-500 accessory to a $299-350 system is a really hard sell. It will take quite a while to grow the user base at that price.
It is new tech, but sony isnt playing with the same rules as their competitors. As Far as I know oculus and vive only make money on the vr units, so they have to build in a healthy profit. Sony makes money on every game sold, and they get additional revenue sources such as psplus. So they can and will price the unit much closer to cost. A $500 price tag would be insane considering ps4s are selling between $299 and 349. It will not be more thN $399, but really in my opinion they have to get it lower than that if they expect people to bite. A $400-500 accessory to a $299-350 system is a really hard sell. It will take quite a while to grow the user base at that price.
what's so funny? you got a better prediction or the actual number or something?
Way too high. Sony has to hit $299.
As someone with a decent gaming pc, your argument is kind of weird to me. My Pc is now well over $1400 after all my upgrades. But i didnt have to spend all that initially. Gradually upgrading my PC didnt force me to break the bank. Same concept can be applied to this. Also this is an enthusiast product right now. Enthusiast tend to pay a premium to get technology early (Oled Tvs). If the price is what is scaring you then you arent the target market for VR at this moment.I wonder if people that are laughing at the $299 suggestion, would you guys have paid $600 or $700 for the PS4 when it came out? I just see so many of you so eager to shell out $400+ for a new gadget that has not yet been proven as a successful commercial technology that I wonder if you would have paid more for a better spec'ed console.
Does the PS VR support VR movies?
I wonder if people that are laughing at the $299 suggestion, would you guys have paid $600 or $700 for the PS4 when it came out? I just see so many of you so eager to shell out $400+ for a new gadget that has not yet been proven as a successful commercial technology that I wonder if you would have paid more for a better spec'ed console.
Headset only: 350. With camera 400.
Believe.
People are laughing because it's an unrealistic price point. Not because they want to shell out the money. It's like if someone says a brand new Tesla should be no more than $20K. That comment is going to be laughed at by anyone who knows anything about cars.
But know one can seem to explain why it would be more than $299. You just get "it's new technology", when at the sum of it's parts, it's really not. Yes some additional R&D is required to bind them all together into a cohesive package, but Sony as a company is already invested into almost all of the components, and they've been working on this stuff for a very long time. Something more concrete would be excellent to explain why $299 is an unrealistic price point.
Profit should enough of an explanation. Sony is now profitable again an im sure they want to continue that trend.But know one can seem to explain why it would be more than $299. You just get "it's new technology", when at the sum of it's parts, it's really not. Yes some additional R&D is required to bind them all together into a cohesive package, but Sony as a company is already invested into almost all of the components, and they've been working on this stuff for a very long time. Something more concrete would be excellent to explain why $299 is an unrealistic price point.
Way too high. Sony has to hit $299.
Because Sony want to make money?
Profit should enough of an explanation. Sony is now profitable again an im sure they want to continue that trend.
Edit: beaten
Sony typically doesn't sell platforms for a huge profit regarding hardware. They make the profit on software sales. I doubt anyone's buying a PSVR to look at it, and there's only one place to buy the software.
Then you dont understand the difference between mainstream and enthusiast consumers and which one VR is currently marketing to. You do realize Oculous, even after the price controversy, sold out of their initial preorder allocations?I think $299 is still too much. At $599 or $499 this has super fail written all over it.
Seems like VR prices will be a tough reality check for many this year.
Then you dont understand the difference between mainstream and enthusiast consumers and which one VR is currently marketing to. You do realize Oculous, even after the price controversy, sold out of their initial preorder allocations?
I think $299 is still too much. At $599 or $499 this has super fail written all over it.
They also said that they won't be pricing HW at below cost anymore and hoping to make it up on the backend.
Besides the BOM there is all the R&D that needs to recouped on this. Its not like the BOM is the only thing on the cost side.
I'm not saying return your camera you already have, I'm saying the camera packaging you'd find on shelves is inside the PSVR box and that piece you could return as a possibility. The camera is cheap though so it probably wouldn't raise costs including it in the bundle. Think like this. MSRP is $60, Sony probably sells it to stores for $50 a piece, and it probably costs $20 to build the things. Eating $20 on including it in the box isn't a huge deal. Keep in mind also that I'm all for a cameraless SKU, but online only. Just to make a retail consumer experience that much less confusing. Sony sold dualshock 4s before the PS4 was out, but they included one with the PS4, you don't even need a dualshock 4 if you have a vita. I'd be interested to know how many camera owners there are, but it can't be that many compared to the number of PS4s out in the wild.So is better to return something you already have "used cause its opened" than buying something you need? Really??
There should be at least two bundles. With and without camera. Since move is optional and the camera is required and with all the next gen streaming a lot of ppl already have the camera
The people who want PSVR to be <$300 are the people who want Sony to die.
Like, you guys realize that would be selling at an extreme loss?
And you realize that if the price point makes the device super popular they're going to sell tons of them and that means even more loss?
And you realize that they're going to have to pray that tons of different software comes out and that it has to be a huge attach rate ratio to recoup the costs?
If Sony had a stupid amount of money just laying around I could see them doing it to gain an extreme early foothold on the market and dominate the VR scene for the foreseeable future. But they don't.
Sony is already on record saying they dont expect one million in sales for the first year of PSVR. That should be some indication on where they are pricing this.They're profitable by selling games. The hardware doesn't have to be that profitable initially. He's right. Nobody has come up with a compelling reason why it should cost more than $300 other than "NEW TECH," even though the tech isn't really that new. It's just a combination of existing tech.
PS Vita all over again. You'd think after the Vita and PS4, people would understand how Sony prices its hardware.
People are laughing because it's an unrealistic price point. Not because they want to shell out the money. It's like if someone says a brand new Tesla should be no more than $20K. That comment is going to be laughed at by anyone who knows anything about cars.
The people who want PSVR to be <$300 are the people who want Sony to die.
Like, you guys realize that would be selling at an extreme loss?
And you realize that if the price point makes the device super popular they're going to sell tons of them and that means even more loss?
And you realize that they're going to have to pray that tons of different software comes out and that it has to be a huge attach rate ratio to recoup the costs?
What's the expensive part of PSVR?
While I don't think PSVR will cost as much as the Rift, I think many people in this thread are going to lose their shit (in the bad way) when Sony eventually releases this. I'm expecting $449 US.
As someone with a decent gaming pc, your argument is kind of weird to me. My Pc is now well over $1400 after all my upgrades. But i didnt have to spend all that initially. Gradually upgrading my PC didnt force me to break the bank. Same concept can be applied to this. Also this is an enthusiast product right now. Enthusiast tend to pay a premium to get technology early (Oled Tvs). If the price is what is scaring you then you arent the target market for VR at this moment.
You are also forgetting people paid $600 for a ps3 when it first came out, which til this very day is considered one the best bluray players.
People are laughing because it's an unrealistic price point. Not because they want to shell out the money. It's like if someone says a brand new Tesla should be no more than $20K. That comment is going to be laughed at by anyone who knows anything about cars.
How much is they Note 5 again without GearVR?The screen and the "box" are the most expensives.
Same question could apply to oculus, it looks like a phone screen in plastic wrappers if you say it in that way.
This is true, but their HMD/whole package is probably quite a bit more expensive to build than Sony's (e.g. 2 displays, much larger FoV on the camera (custom?), etc.). And they might be paying more to source the components than Sony will.Oculus makes no money on the hardware.
People like you like in their own world.... far far away from reality.
The screen and the "box" are the most expensives.
Same question could apply to oculus, it looks like a phone screen in plastic wrappers if you say it in that way.
You also need a $900 PC capable of running it.I think Oculus has said on record that premium materials have been quite expensive. And I imagine selling 2 panels vs the single that Sony is using could add up. PSVR looks to have neither of those.
And the "box" is going to be extremely basic hardware, not costly in the slightest.
What's the expensive part of PSVR?
This is how most game consoles have been sold since the 80s. At a loss, with the real money coming from software sales made over a period of years.
They could only try to hit the PS4 user base, but this is new tech. There are a lot of people who don't like the idea of VR, even with good price. Games also don't target all users, as smartphones and going on. So the price might not be for us, which might not be their current target.
A safe bet is $499. $399 is a hopeful one but still belivable. $299 is a no no. And you are right. $399 is easier to accept now that oculus is $599, and that's my fear about $499. They don't have some product at a "competitive" price range. And Sony always had expensive display tech.
Fingers crossed for $399