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[kyser73]

Pretty poorly written piece that seems to largely consist of other people's writing, Writing which in turn says very little that is either new or interesting about how porn fits into capitalism.

One thing it does do is highlight the still-regressive/reactionary view present in some feminist analysis of the unique and sacred nature of human sexuality and body relation - the idea that because its about sex it is somehow a worse form of exploitation than other types of wage-slavery, which is a deep hark back to very conservative concepts of sexuality.

Working down a mine in unsafe conditions for 16 hours a day where injuries are commonplace and you're treated like a commodity or having your ass fucked ragged until its a gaping bleeding mess and you're treated like a commodity - that's how capitalism works.

 

[GrizzNKev]

Fakku is so awful and full of disturbing and awful things. I'm never ever going there again. :<

If you're not willing to click 2-3 more times to find something you like just because the sites you go to also host things outside of your preference, you have absolutely no right to complain.

 

[HolyBaikal]

When the things I see that I don't like make me want to cry and make me feel sick to my stomach and make my whole day awful, then it's not worth it.

My preference is to not want to feel haunted and feel awful and feel like crying.

 

[Yukiari]

When the things I see that I don't like make me want to cry and make me feel sick to my stomach and make my whole day awful, then it's not worth it.

Then find another form of entertainment that is not porn. It's not for you.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

About to go to sleep, posting from my phone as is. There is a vast market out there, as there is for everything. I'll fully admit that the majority of porn can be/is degrading to some degree or another. But, if this is something that bothers you then stop watching that shit. There is a world of quality sensual porn out there, typically referred to as wife friendly...what this really means is it isn't some spitting, slapping, abusive shit. Now if you find yourself upset that you aren't going to see that...maybe you need to understand you are into degrading porn.

 

[GrizzNKev]

When the things I see that I don't like make me want to cry and make me feel sick to my stomach and make my whole day awful, then it's not worth it.

Jesus dude, it's a thumbnail image of a drawing of fictional events. You might need help.

 

[HolyBaikal]

Then find another form of entertainment that is not porn. It's not for you.

Because violent sexuality disturbs me, sexual expression in entertainment isn't for me?

You make it sound like kind of sexual expression like this are only for people who aren't bothered by expressions of sexual violence.

I feel that other people deserve sexual expression, too.

 

[purvispisgah]

Pretty poorly written piece that seems to largely consist of other people's writing, Writing which in turn says very little that is either new or interesting about how porn fits into capitalism.

One thing it does do is highlight the still-regressive/reactionary view present in some feminist analysis of the unique and sacred nature of human sexuality and body relation - the idea that because its about sex it is somehow a worse form of exploitation than other types of wage-slavery, which is a deep hark back to very conservative concepts of sexuality.

Working down a mine in unsafe conditions for 16 hours a day where injuries are commonplace and you're treated like a commodity or having your ass fucked ragged until its a gaping bleeding mess and you're treated like a commodity - that's how capitalism works.

Exploitation and capitalism are not synonymous, and capitalism is not the only economic structure that has produced exploitation.

People blame "capitalism" for the strangest things.

 

[FUME5]

Holy shit Baikal, I think you should just turn safe search on from here on out.

 

[Future]

How are people typically looking for porn anyway. Glancing at the top of redtube is like glancing at the top of YouTube. Most likely a sea of shit that appeals to the lowest common denominator.

Like anything entertainment, if you want to get to the good stuff you need to research, talk to other people, get recommendations, read reviews etc. cold reality is the likelihood of people taking that effort with porn is pretty much nil so redtube it is then and we will put the bar of quality there I suppose

 

[Yukiari]

Because violent sexuality disturbs me, sexual expression in entertainment isn't for me?

You make it sound like kind of sexual expression like this are only for people who aren't bothered by expressions of sexual violence.

I feel that other people deserve sexual expression, too.

No, because what you want is out there but you lack the will to find it. You lose the right to complain when you don't find what you want yourself, but sit back and cry about it.

Please, I don't make it sound like anything. You make it sound like everything you look and see is sexual violence. When it truly isn't. You're the one with the blinders on.

 

[FZZ]

Article has some weird fucking points it is trying to make, but honestly a majority of the claims he's making are true.

Sexism, exaggerated racial stereotypes, glorification of sex as a purely sexual thing where things such as consent and intimacy are often looked over are serious issues in most pornos. Also it is pretty obvious shaved pussies are a thing because most men want women to look younger, although it automatically doesn't equate to all of humanity jacking off to child porn the idea of men wanting or rather lusting after younger women is there.

Also contributes to false expectations most teen boys have about what girls vaginas should look like and puts an unreasonable stress on teenage girls in addition to a myriad of other social stresses that affect them already.

TL;DR: You probably already know this stuff.

 

[HolyBaikal]

No, because what you want is out there but you lack the will to find it.

I lack the will to deal with more pain of seeing disturbing and horrible things..

It's not worth it. Sexual fun isn't worth psychological pain like that.
I feel like the pornography industry and problems. I feel like people should complain about it.

The video game industry is sexist and has problems. Doesn't the pornography industry have problems, too?
Sigh...

 

[Yukiari]

I lack the will to deal with more pain of seeing disturbing and horrible things..

It's not worth it. Sexual fun isn't worth psychological pain like that.
I feel like the pornography industry and problems. I feel like people should complain about it.

The video game industry is sexist and has problems. Doesn't the pornography industry have problems, too?
Sigh...

There you said it. It's not worth it. Move on.

 

[HolyBaikal]

It would be worth it to me, if I didn't have to go through a sea of horrible things.
If the pornography industry and culture didn't have so many problems and wasn't so unfriendly to people like me.

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

It would be worth it to me, if I didn't have to go through a sea of horrible things.
If the pornography industry and culture didn't have so many problems and wasn't so unfriendly to people like me.

Well, if the world is somehow changed to fit my desire, that would be nice too

But

... yeah idk what else to say

It's nice to want things, I guess :x

 

[Yukiari]

It would be worth it to me, if I didn't have to go through a sea of horrible things.
If the pornography industry and culture didn't have so many problems and wasn't so unfriendly to people like me.

My last post of the night.

But you know it's really not all about that, even if you want to think it is. On the end you lack the conviction to find what you want and then play the victim. No matter what anyone says nothing will ever stop your woe is me mantra. Step up or step out.

 

[collige]

I lack the will to deal with more pain of seeing disturbing and horrible things..

It's not worth it. Sexual fun isn't worth psychological pain like that.
I feel like the pornography industry and problems. I feel like people should complain about it.

The video game industry is sexist and has problems. Doesn't the pornography industry have problems, too?
Sigh...

The porn industry has plenty of problems and people do complain about it a lot, but the existence of porn that you don't like isn't one of them.

Anyway, just google "Fakku vanilla", click the first link, and proceed to enjoy 3000 manga that are "cute and romantic, involving only one boy and one girl falling in love."

 

[kyser73]

Exploitation and capitalism are not synonymous, and capitalism is not the only economic structure that has produced exploitation.

People blame "capitalism" for the strangest things.

Go read some Marx and come back to me when you're ready for some actual discussion.

 

[Cream]

I lack the will to deal with more pain of seeing disturbing and horrible things..

It's not worth it. Sexual fun isn't worth psychological pain like that.
I feel like the pornography industry and problems. I feel like people should complain about it.

The video game industry is sexist and has problems. Doesn't the pornography industry have problems, too?
Sigh...

4000 different options. Enjoy.

 

[HOMEBOY OVER HERE]

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why did you link this garbage without warning people? I clicked this crap on accident.

 

[Ms.Galaxy]

Welp, looks like I'm staying up late. I needed some bedtime reading material.

 

[CaptainSlow]

4000 different options. Enjoy.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

I always assumed the lack of emotional depth in most porn is that the largest volume of this product exists for the sole purpose of facilitating an exercise that most consumers are drawn to out of painful necessity or boredom and actually want to be over with relatively quickly.

 

[Ms.Galaxy]

I lack the will to deal with more pain of seeing disturbing and horrible things..

It's not worth it. Sexual fun isn't worth psychological pain like that.
I feel like the pornography industry has problems. I feel like people should complain about it.

The video game industry is sexist and has problems. Doesn't the pornography industry have problems, too?
Sigh...

Look, I say this as a someone who's been sexually harassed and assaulted many times through her short 22 year old life, I can understand what you're feeling, but I think you are overreacting just a bit. The worst you see when you usually go browsing porn is a still thumbnail of the video or picture, that's it. There is no context to what they are doing other then having sex. If you want to know what they're doing, people usually tag what they're doing and the title usually says it all. You can just avoid them and search what you want, hell, even from google's search bar you can look for what you want.

Now, does the mainstream porn industry have issues? Yes, it does, it clearly does, don't get me started on how they portray "shemales", but the thing here is that there are different types of porn out there for people and whatever your kink is, whatever turns you on, there is porn of it that can easily be found. You can easily avoid the bullshit and just search what you want. The kicker here is that the mainstream porn industry is not even that mainstream. It's not like the game industry where the AAA publishers control like 80% of the market. Thanks to the internet, anyone can make porn and publish it, as such I highly doubt the mainstream porn industry controls more than 50% of the market. Hell, I'll say it barely controls 30%, most of the porn I've seen come from a bunch of amatur studios made by a bunch of friends and couples who wanted to show off.

 

[BKatastrophe]

All this stuff about guys liking submissive women.

But like being a guy, and I'm just spitballing here, what if I'm the submissive? And I like porn where the woman is in control? I'm I still supporting a sexist industry that is inevitably on its way to child porn? And is submission a bad thing anyway? I'm a guy who's in to being dominated, so I would imagine some women are as well.

What a terrible article.

 

[Timedog]

Some of that is true. Most porn is pretty gross and it's because dudes are generally pretty gross, hence our world being shitty. The pedo stuff is over the top--although I wouldn't be insanely surprised if it was true for at least some people.

If you need to see women degraded to get off maybe take a look in the mirror. If you need to see minorities degraded and the women they're fucking degraded by proxy maybe take a look in the mirror.

 

[M0nochromatic]

Cream
Makes The World A Little Sweeter
Today, 11:27 PM, Post #470

 

[MUnited83]

From previous HB posts on the subject I guarantee that half of those 4000 will be offensive and hurtful somehow.(and I'm being optimistic here)

 

[Extollere]

aayyyyyyyyyyyyy'll be in my bunk.

 

[Nyoro SF]

This combined with your avatar is cracking me up something fierce

 

[Rex Griswold]

For anyone and everyone who seems to relate to this and only this.. Look up Janice Griffith. She always looks REALLY happy. Might be too maledom for some, but she does enjoy herself thoroughly. Results are gonna be NSFW obviously.

Cream has the best post in this thread though.

 

[Xe4]

It would be worth it to me, if I didn't have to go through a sea of horrible things.
If the pornography industry and culture didn't have so many problems and wasn't so unfriendly to people like me.

x art dude... NSFW, obviously

4000 different options. Enjoy.

You need to NSFW that if you're going to link to something, even in context. Also probably remove it, advertisers don't like it, and mods won't either.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

I have trouble finding just regular nudity when I want to masturbate nowadays, every site seems to be very troublesome it seems when it comes to the discussion framing the pictures.

Like the other day I was just googling "hot girls", something I don't often do (honestly I tend to just use my imagination when masturbating, that way I don't feel guilty over looking at someone who might not have been aware they're being used in that manner), and all the results were really crass. One site was called like "Sluthate", and the topic was like "no low-t fags allowed", and it was just ridiculous. Pretty much made me feel bad so I just gave up and went to sleep.

 

[Northeastmonk]

so much of porn, the much better stuff actually, isn't degrading. in fact, i would suspect that the degrading "im a bitch" stuff is becoming more and more niche.

additionally, even when it comes to the degrading stuff, i suspect that even young teens are able separate fact from fiction just as they do with movies. but this is only a guess, and due to the lack of citation in the original article, i suspect its author is guessing as well.

also, this really is a terrible article.

adult porn leading to child porn?

men cant get erections around real women?

come on bruh.

I heard someone say the reason women in porn began to shave their private part was because they wanted to look younger. I obviously didn't wake up and believe this, but that's what she said. She was an old professor of mine.

I don't see why the age gap drops so low? Women in their 20s - late 30s can get by with the "-"look"-" and I'm not trying to be perverted here.

 

[Mailbox]

 

[Acinixys]

The inevitable route of all porn is child porn.

This kind of sensationalism destroys any legitimacy the article was trying to build in my mind.

Oh you like watching girls/guys getting a fat one in the bum?

Guess what

YOURE ALSO A PEDOPHILE AND ARE FEEDING THE BEAST THAT WILL TURN ALL YOUNG PEOPLE INTO PEDOS AS WELL

Seems legit

Dunno what you guys are worried about

4000 different options. Enjoy.

 

[Mailbox]

Cream
Banned
(Today, 09:27 PM)


ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii


Anyway, on topic.
Isn't sensationalism and ignorance on this scale not uncommon?

 

[Palculator]

Anyway, on topic.
Isn't sensationalism and ignorance on this scale not uncommon?

It is, but it's also a fault of the media being biased towards such sensationalism because it attracts clicks/readers. And since standing out for being dumb is easier than it is for being rational/informative you tend to see a lot more ignorance represented in the media.

 

[airmangataosenai]

Black men are sexually potent beasts stalking white women. Black women have a raw, primitive lust. Latin women are sultry and hotblooded. Asian women are meek, sexually submissive geishas.

I realize I'm being myopic here, but this bugs me. was with the article about the racism in porn until the last line about Asian women, as I really don't feel it reflects the American industry at all. In most porn I've seen, Asian actresses usually behave the same way as the White ones. There's some racial dialogue about tightness thrown in and exoticism to be sure though. If we're talking about JAV's that's a different matter, but obviously that has more to do with cultural differences.

 

[EviLore]

Get a grip.