I had a FB friend unfriend me over the guns/cars analogy. All I said was lets regulate guns like we do cars & drivers licenses.
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President Barack Obama preparing to issue Executive Order on gun control
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I had a FB friend unfriend me over the guns/cars analogy. All I said was lets regulate guns like we do cars & drivers licenses.
Sho_Nuff82
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Most shootings are done by handguns anyway, most of which are purchased legally. There's no point in a specific brand of gun ban if the others are nearly ubiquitous.
Expanding background checks (and enforcing them more importantly, instead of letting people go ahead if the due diligence isn't complete in 72 hours) is a priority. Despite being common sense legislation it would make Obama one of the most hated Democrats in US history.
Its all fun and games until some gun nut loses his already tenuous grasp on reality after this is implemented.
phazedplasma
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Its not surprising.
If you truly want to bring gun violence down you don't even bother with assault weapons since they represent a fraction of a percent of death by guns.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
No serious, self-respecting advocate of the 2nd amendment should be fine with the gun show loophole. There needs to be at least some minimum of accountability and background check for the sale of a gun. It's common god damn sense and a necessary step in reducing the availability of deadly weapons to people who should not have them.
RPGCrazied
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I'll support this. Lets just hope a Republican doesn't become President, they would rid of that so fast it would make your head spin. And if Trump were to win by some miracle there would be even more guns in the US than now.
Since I'm anti gun, I'm going to have to vote for Hillary.
Since I'm anti gun, I'm going to have to vote for Hillary.
The law would be right in his specifically named powers. That's how executive orders work.
Why did you feel the need to mention the race? Are white guys the only demographic in America responsible for gun crime?
SmarmySmurf
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Surrounding yourself with pro-gun family sounds like you want to be miserable either way, what can this hurt?
HUELEN10
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isn't that akin to saying you can make any choices as long as they are these?
I mean, I don't like guns, never held one, have no interest of owning one, but it just doesn't seem like a good way to do it. From an outside perspective, it almost seems knee-jerk.
If a Republican wins next November, can't they just as easily toss it in the garbage as well? Pretty much as soon as they get in?
tearsintherain
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Thanks Obama for an extra christmas bonus, my stock investments in Smith and Wesson (SWHC) and Ruger (RGR) have more than doubled this year alone, I'd expect the panic buying from the news of this report to double it again in the next 3 months.
I could go buy some new guns with the extra money!
I could go buy some new guns with the extra money!
Dude Abides
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Good thing I already bought a gun for everyone on my Christmas list from this guy who lives in my neighborhood.
Knee jerk would've been ramrodding a bill through Congress banning all firearms 20-30 years ago when the writing was on the wall in regards to mass shootings.
Since we've done little to fix issues this is more of a considered approach to reigning in the loopier assholes in our country who think unregistered firearm sales are a good thing.
Ziltoidia 9
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When a conservative says,"Bad people will find a way to get guns regardless."
Dems should say, "Terrorists will find a way into the country regardless."
Dems should say, "Terrorists will find a way into the country regardless."
Fox Mulder
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He's a secret member of the NRA and friend to the gun lobby.
That and let's make gun owners buy liability insurance. Again, exactly like cars.
RPGCrazied
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Its a shame a President can only serve 2 terms. I wish he could run again.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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gutter_trash
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yup, if your gun is used to harm someone else or gets accidentally discharged, your insurance should shell out to cover the damages to the victim
again, cars have more regulations than anything else, tied to registration, drivers license, auto insurance.
guns have it too easy
Pai Pai Master
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They're gonna try to impeach him for this
bengraven
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Have no choice, whether it's my family or my wife's, it's just the people we were born into and who love us and we love them back. Even though they're not smart, either very or somewhat racist, and knee jerk Republicans.
I'll get through it:
After trying for years and the other side not budging even a little and the fact his term is so over at jan 2017. I am okay with this.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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I'm for some gun regulation, but I don't much care for the use of executive orders as a workaround solution for a gridlocked Congress.
Lucky Forward
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Jade Helm: Phase 2
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
I don't necessarily agree with this, but he's magnitudes better than both most conservatives believe (I personally know a few people who rank him dead last, because they are ignorant) and many liberals believe (for not bringing in an age of socialist utopia.)
I think history will remember him quite favorably.
RustyNails
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Yeah this is going to create a massive firestorm in the conserva circles. Immigration order will be child's play.
Hopefully Clinton, Sanders and O Malley come out in favor of it.
teruterubozu
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Who's history? History is created. He'll be remembered like a liberal Reagan, but the right will certainly continue to vilify him for years to come.
Well assault weapons aren't responsible for either most mass shooting deaths, or of the sort of domestic intentional and accidental deaths that add up. The issue in terms of weapons used to kill others is semi-auto handguns.
As for legal challenges—might as well make the NRA spend their money to defeat it. They're never going to compromise anyhow.
Yes, it's literally this because it's a specifically enumerated power in the Constitution.
In theory they can, although traditionally executive orders don't start rolling until after you've been in office for a while, and it's unlikely any future President would touch it due to how bad you'd look once the next shooting occurs due to someone getting a gun via the loophole
The last gun sanity laws failed with a MAJORITY in Congress. It died in procedure, not in votes. He's not going against the will of the people, here.
The spike in gun purchases over the next few days will be absolutely insane. Anything he does enact as an executive order will do next to nothing to stop gun violence though. America will always have mass shootings. Even if they put a 100% ban on all guns it's impossible to enforce and with the amount of guns already out in the population there's always going to be a way to get one illegally.
The gun show loophole is just private sales. The objection is that someone should be able to transfer a firearm (give or sell) to someone they know without having to get the government involved. Especially if it is a family member or friend that already has other guns. I don't think it's a huge deal, but that is the objection.
All online sales have to go through a firearms dealer anyway and involve a background check the same as if they were buying from a store.
Plasticine
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Herr Obama taking our guns! Paving the way for the caliphate! Soon we'll all have barcodes on our neck! It's in the Bible, people! THE BEAST RISES!
I wish he could do more
bengraven
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Much like Obamacare, this will become the new rallying cry at the elections.
"I don't even know what he's planning, but it's probably taking all your guns - vote for me and everything he's planning right now I'll reverse, even if it makes sense, fucking vote for me because like fucking come on, he's a Muslim".
fixedpoint
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Yeah so we shouldnt do anything.
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