JackAubrey
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I think Project Cars backing project (and I was a backer of the first game) has created something akin to a cult. It's fanboyism + financial interest. Scary.
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Project CARS 2 discussion thread (provisional release date: Septemberish 2017)
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Shooters
LOL
Other racers with a more tactile feel and response between ground, wheel, and hands.
I'm still interested to know which of these other racing games you were directly comparing the feel of pCARS to in your review. It's quite important as they vary widely, and each has its own idiosyncrasies, and pros and cons.
There's no public financial investment in pCARS 2 though..?
JackAubrey
Member
Hence me saying PC backing project, not PC2 backing project.
Dzidza1978
Member
But we're talking about pCARS 2?
JackAubrey
Member
They got in trouble with the UK financial services authority first time around. I expect they didn't fancy the legal complexities doing it again.
People are just really damn weird. Lots of games have fanatical followers, people don't need a financial incentive to go to war for a game. Heck it is not even just games; you see it with music, movies, tv shows, phone brands, etc. We really need other people to like what we like apparently.
Even without the financial incentive of the first one, I would imagine there is still some vested interest , as people might feel that PC2 is "their baby" as they were a member of the dev team (by proxy), the fanaticism that Ian shows doesn't help either.
Plus, people are mental.
Plus, people are mental.
soundscream
Member
Is HDR for PS4 coming via a patch? Seems odd that the XB1 has it but the PS4 doesn't.
I thought there was investment/crowd-funding for a limited period, but the only difference is this time around no one gets financial returns?
http://www.bsimracing.com/project-cars-2-funding-started/
Yeah, WMD2. But it's not an investment with possible financial gain, it's a way to pay for early access to dev builds and an opportunity to help with development.
GTP is kicking off, BTW.
I feel really sorry for Karak and other reviewers of this game when they get stupid threats like this, especially when they're essentially doing a service for us. Some people are just plain dumb... Keep your head up Karak, thanks for the detailed review.
Also sucks about the mis-communication from Bamco and SMS.
Anyway, will wait for the other reviews to hit before doing anything. I already have it pre-ordered via Steam, but I may send a refund request through if the reviews are consistently picking up on handling issues. Then again, I didn't find it all bad in PCars 1 after some fiddling. So even if it's a minor improvement from the first game, then thats something, right?
Also sucks about the mis-communication from Bamco and SMS.
Anyway, will wait for the other reviews to hit before doing anything. I already have it pre-ordered via Steam, but I may send a refund request through if the reviews are consistently picking up on handling issues. Then again, I didn't find it all bad in PCars 1 after some fiddling. So even if it's a minor improvement from the first game, then thats something, right?
Link?
Karak
Member
Ya later patch.
Just recorded this in two spots. Normal gameplay. Patron requested it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a9IK5kCKYg
GHG
Member
No they're not. I don't think anyone is saying they're problematic.
In a strange twist it's now the wheel defaults that people are taking issue with.
In the GTP reviews thread
Say it isn't so. Please!
At least on PC I can download a setup from the community, right? No more spreadsheets?
Ian Bell is still saying there's no flickering in gameplay. Not sure if he's misinterpreting what you're saying or just blindly defending his product
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/project-cars-2-reviews.357791/page-4#post-11945655
If this was my game I would lock myself in a room without internet on review day. Can't possibly be unbiased when you have that much riding on the games success. He really doesn't need to be defensive yet lol.
Karak
Member
NullPointer
Member
This.
Some people at WMD can be really scary, like looking for leaked videos of PC2 to report and stuff like that. They feel like part of a family, like they are lesser SMS staff, but still SMS staff. It's really odd for me.
I can see why they are rising some eyebrows at these controls comments, but threatening? Some people are just mental.
I can see them, but I am not sure what I am looking for........
Karak
Member
at...what?
Ian implies you're liying about the embargo date.
GHG
Member
Ian's coming for you. Lock your doors!
Karak
Member
Oh thats no biggy he is for sure wrong about what I was informed of. And at least a couple others who were wondering. Its not a biggy. Unless...someone pretended to be a BN employee, got their letterheard, then bought a game, and gave it to me, just to set me up...lol
i already got feedback from a separate PR company also handling the game, in addition to the actual press kit/game letter that I took a pic of and then also an additional email lol. That's a problem somewhere else and I know that one pr person at bandi was saying one time other time as well. It happens.
NullPointer
Member
Those video links work now - and I can see flickering in the trees. Hard to tell how much of this I'd actually notice in gameplay as I'm often oblivious to everything but the cockpit and road ahead, but its there alright.
Constant LOD shifts on the back windows of the cars ahead of me I'll notice, as I do in other games. But technically speaking the load times and any frame pacing issues are what could end up getting to me, if they're common.
But then you can't brake and accelerate like a pro!
Karak
Member
Its also super bad right at the end on the right. Patchable though. Least the game is really fun
NullPointer
Member
Yeah, that is pretty rough at the end there.
Not saying that anyone shouldn't be bothered by that, but it's not something that bothers me, apart from the bit on the right towards the end, I had to strain my eyes to see it!
I don't think that's the same issue you are reporting in your review. This doesn't look like flickering shadows, but like a LOD inconsistency, which in results is making shadows go ape. So, (two different problems that need patching? lol.
I can see the same problem of flickering shadows in the gameplay video.
JackAubrey
Member
Yup it'll bother some others not at all. I think I'm in the "it would bother me" camp. I'd rather have no shadows than flicking ones.
I'll take locked lower fps over stuttering any day, but I've friends quite the opposition. Some say Driveclub best console racing graphics, me I found it so murky and indistinct I can't play it properly.
I'd loose the trees if it meant 60fps!
JackAubrey
Member
Me too.
JackAubrey
Member
Bell is the Iraqi Information Minister of game development.
Haha, that made me chuckle
My Embargo info says the following:
It means today at 3PM Central European Time.
EDIT: Also, there is a Day1 Patch coming apparently.
From what I gather, the D1P you talk about is not what was supposed to be D1P. Not that it matters for people buying the game, but it does matter if the review code is showing some glaring problems.
So, there was a D1P that reviewers got a couple of weeks ago with their review code, and there will be another different, newer, better D1P for consumers on Friday? I hope so.
D1P2
Nothing on WMD2 about it?