I've been seeing them pretty regularly since about the release of Splatoon 2. I just did a cursory check and about 15 Targets within driving distance all show in stock with limited quantity (so no in store pickup option) and the item is currently available for delivery. About 8 Best Buys within 30 miles do have the option for in store pickup right now (several say only a few left). I've seen them in stock a few times at a couple of different Wal-Marts near where I live and work.
Now there's usually only a few. I'm not trying to paint some picture of this being a dud now where piles of units are just sitting around collecting dust. I'm just saying that I see them regularly enough though now at this point that I'm always surprised when people act like this is still some nearly-impossible-to-get item. Obviously, this is of course a YMMV situation. I can't comment as to what inventory is like in anybody else's city/region. But I remember picking one up for my neighbor mid August and patting myself on the back for being a hero for his son because that was one of only a couple of times I had seen any stock since launch. But since then I've seen them most times I've checked. I mean, I'll still take the credit for saving the day there, but looking back I don't think he needed me to pick that up for him.
I've been seeing them pretty regularly since about the release of Splatoon 2. I just did a cursory check and about 15 Targets within driving distance all show in stock with limited quantity (so no in store pickup option) and the item is currently available for delivery. About 8 Best Buys within 30 miles do have the option for in store pickup right now (several say only a few left). I've seen them in stock a few times at a couple of different Wal-Marts near where I live and work.
Now there's usually only a few. I'm not trying to paint some picture of this being a dud now where piles of units are just sitting around collecting dust. I'm just saying that I see them regularly enough though now at this point that I'm always surprised when people act like this is still some nearly-impossible-to-get item. Obviously, this is of course a YMMV situation. I can't comment as to what inventory is like in anybody else's city/region. But I remember picking one up for my neighbor mid August and patting myself on the back for being a hero for his son because that was one of only a couple of times I had seen any stock since launch. But since then I've seen them most times I've checked. I mean, I'll still take the credit for saving the day there, but looking back I don't think he needed me to pick that up for him.
We have a thread about bets on how it would sell saying the bulk of this board thought it would tank. Some didn't but general concensus was it would.
I didn't say otherwise. But over a third of everyone thought it would do between Gamecube and Wii, which is right. This was not a rare estimate, but a common expectation.Yeah, ok.
Majority though it would be GameCube level or lower.
And it's tracking behind the GBA. (Its first four weeks in the US were higher than GBA's first three, though.)PS2 and PS3 both launched in the holiday quarter in 2 out of 3 major markets. Switch launched in 0 markets during the holiday quarter and is the first Nintendo platform to have done so since GBA in 2001.
Yeah, it does seem that Nintendo has gotten a better handle on availability or demand slackened a bit befor the Holisay rush or a bit of both.If someone wanted to buy a Switch right now, they might have to pick a retailer they wouldn't use otherwise, but it's very doable right now. (At least in US)
Of course, they don't have a ton of time to build up inventory before the Mario Odyssey/Holiday rush begins. So I could very well see it becoming scarce again in Late October all the way through the Holidays.
I didn't say otherwise. But over a third of everyone thought it would do between Gamecube and Wii, which is right. This was not a rare estimate, but a common expectation.
And it's tracking behind the GBA. (Its first four weeks in the US were higher than GBA's first three, though.)
I am now wondering what the marketers looked at that indicated the 2 million max number?
I am now wondering what the marketers looked at that indicated the 2 million max number?
.I feel like people are really reading way too much into this in an attempt to find some reason to throw shade. Like, the "overdelivered" line is directly referencing the low analyst expectations and Nintendo's original plan to ship only 2 million units. They ended up shipping almost a million more than expected and the demand is still much higher than anticipated, so stock is still low. It doesn't really seem like an outrageous comment to me.
Absolutely, but the poll doesn't have any finer division. Which proves my point that it's not evidence no one predicted Switch success. (Even if it's only poor evidence that they did.)Between Gamecube and Wii is like the widest gap of prediction anyone could ever make
Nintendo provide full info for all their platforms (except Virtual Boy) at their Investor Relations site.. (Scroll to the bottom for historical data, or go out to the IR library section to find further detail on individual years.)Link to GBA info? I didn't know there was good tracking for older hardware like that.
🤔 if demand is higher then what you deliver how is that overdelivering????
So, essentially, they might have just unearthed a new audience?Could be a number of factors. Sony's dominance, it being a new concept, the failure of the Wii U, the decline in the 3DS, the rise in phone usage, the number of people using tablets, etc. There's all sorts of factors that could point to it's better to play it safe than flood the market.
So, essentially, they might have just unearthed a new audience?
Absolutely, but the poll doesn't have any finer division. Which proves my point that it's not evidence no one predicted Switch success. (Even if it's only poor evidence that they did.)
Your point stands, but it's 5. You're forgetting that the DS and PS2 outsold the Wii.Between Gamecube and Wii is like the widest gap of prediction anyone could ever make
You know how many Nintendo, Sony and MS systems have not sold between the Cube and the Wii? As of right now 3. The WiiU, the Virtual Boy, the Vita.
Forgive me if I dont take between rhe Cube and the Wii as selling the sum of the WiiU and 3DS.
LOL of course thats not how it actually works but people are just mocking the obvious marketing speak he is using. He is trying to turn a negative into a possitive. What he is saying when you pull the marketing BS out is simply:
"We underestimated how much this would sell so we are playing catchup and have a plan in place to increase production"
But instead they add in the crap about overdelivering on a bad estimate so that they can include more possitive words in the statement. Its Martketing 101 and I see no prob with it being mocked. There will the people who fall for it and the people who see it for the BS it is and laugh about it. Its fine.
Whats important is that they clearly know they need to make more faster and claim they are working on it. Now they need to go through with that.
Nintendo provide full info for all their platforms (except Virtual Boy) at their Investor Relations site.. (Scroll to the bottom for historical data, or go out to the IR library section to find further detail on individual years.)
The GBA sold 9.58m through September 2001, its first six months (plus one week in Japan). We won't have Switch numbers through September for a little while yet. But given the Switch results announced so far, it's certain that the number will be lower than GBA. This is despite Switch including an extra 3 weeks in Japan, an extra 5 weeks in the US, and an extra 7 weeks elsewhere.
Your point stands, but it's 5. You're forgetting that the DS and PS2 outsold the Wii.
The stock situation is much better in the UK now. It's available at most big outlets. Sales should explode in the run up to Xmas with Fire Emblem, Mario and Xenoblade adding to Zelda, MK8D, Splatoon 2, ARMS, Mario x Rabbids and Pokken in terms of exclusives. Exclusive wise, it really is the best year one line up of any console release ever imo.
The stock situation is much better in the UK now. It's available at most big outlets. Sales should explode in the run up to Xmas with Fire Emblem, Mario and Xenoblade adding to Zelda, MK8D, Splatoon 2, ARMS, Mario x Rabbids and Pokken in terms of exclusives. Exclusive wise, it really is the best year one line up of any console release ever imo.
Animal Crossing, possibly Smash, a new IP or two.
We already know Kirby is Spring 2018 and wouldn't be surprised if Yoshi and Fire Emblem both release by Q2.
lol. It was directed to Reggie's quote being overdelivered. Thought that was obvious.*Sigh* To reiterate:
So yes, they underdelivered in general and there were shortages. Literally no one is arguing against that.
But they overdelivered in the sense that their analysts predicted they should ship 2 million. But Nintendo decided to go for 2.8 instead. That's the entire context for what Reggie is saying.
I knew people sometimes don't read the OP before they post, but this is absurd.
GBA was a 99$ device though... extremely big difference, I think.The GBA sold 9.58m through September 2001, its first six months (plus one week in Japan). We won't have Switch numbers through September for a little while yet. But given the Switch results announced so far, it's certain that the number will be lower than GBA. This is despite Switch including an extra 3 weeks in Japan, an extra 5 weeks in the US, and an extra 7 weeks elsewhere.
You know how many Nintendo, Sony and MS systems have not sold between the Cube and the Wii? As of right now 3. The WiiU, the Virtual Boy, the Vita.
Actually, it's 6. You both forgot PS1, which also outsold Wii.Your point stands, but it's 5. You're forgetting that the DS and PS2 outsold the Wii.
Switch is definitely below GBA but it also was majorly supply constrained in its biggest markets.
Yes, of course there are reasons why Switch is selling more slowly than GBA. I never said there's no explanation why it's tracking lower.GBA was a 99$ device though... extremely big difference, I think.