Finally, some Trump voters are having second thoughts about Trump: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-poll-idUSKBN1A5127
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Reuters/Ipsos poll: One in eight people who voted for Trump having second thoughts
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Sir_Crocodile
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that's all?
buttery fistful
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That's it, huh?
Skellig Gra
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I know people will say its not a lot but that represents 7+ million voters. Much more than enough to swing a re-election since he sure as hell isn't gaining any significant amount of new voters.
TheLostBigBoss
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Anyone who says "that's it"
1) it's been only half a year full of self made chaos
2) there has been no actual disaster yet for him to deal with. Imagine what happens when Trump has to deal with, say, an Ebola epidemic?
3) The Russian investigation is still ramping up and more bombs will be dropped.
4) Losing one eighth of his support is a fucking lot
1) it's been only half a year full of self made chaos
2) there has been no actual disaster yet for him to deal with. Imagine what happens when Trump has to deal with, say, an Ebola epidemic?
3) The Russian investigation is still ramping up and more bombs will be dropped.
4) Losing one eighth of his support is a fucking lot
BoogieWoogie
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They really thought that fucking Trump was going to end partisanship in Washington?
Who the FUCK are these people??
Who the FUCK are these people??
Extra Sauce
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Second thoughts doesn't mean he lost all of them.
PeakPointMatrix
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Hate them all.
And JUST second thoughts?
This is like the thisisfinedog.jpeg just going "hmm, maybe this isn't fine...?"
And JUST second thoughts?
This is like the thisisfinedog.jpeg just going "hmm, maybe this isn't fine...?"
Lord Fagan
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Wait...what?
If anything, he's exacerbated it at this point.
George Washington
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Keep dreaming.
When he wins reelection in 2020:
When he wins reelection in 2020:
Conciliator
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sorry old white folks, them brown people ain't going anywhere. Get used to it.
What does that gif have to do with anything?Keep dreaming.
When he wins reelection in 2020:
Also, I sure would like your crystal ball
buttery fistful
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The 1/8 are merely "not sure" if they would vote for him again, not definitively saying they wouldn't vote for him.
TheLostBigBoss
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A large portion of his base are people who voted him in because they wanted something new.
If they are unsatisfied with Trump six months in out of a four year term, how do you think an extrapolation is going to look like mid 2019?
Trump isn't going to change, the Russian investigation is only going to grow and he's going to continue to lash out and do the same things the people who voted for him don't want him to do.
WiiredShawn
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Yeah, if he's bleeding support like this only six months into his presidency, and nothing of great import has even happened, imagine what his support will look like in a year.
Even if Trump lasts this whole term, I don't see him winning a second. Liberals will be more energized to vote, even if just to get him out, a chunk of his base will be disenchanted by his inability to enact change, and that's assuming the special investigation doesn't destroy his credibility or some disaster happens that he (will inevitably) bungle.
They're conservative voters. They won't change their mind about anything unless the consequences of their decisions personally effects their lives (and even then there's only a slim chance they'll regret it). We get involved in an unjustified war and send soldiers off to die, the economy collapses and small business owners take a hit, their health care goes away, their taxes go up, or the price of gas dramatically increases.... and then yeah, maybe a few more people will have second thoughts. But don't expect too much from his hardcore base. Trump is the type of person they have wanted for years. They're not going to give up on him unless it smacks them in the face and impacts their lives.
womfalcs3
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That's enough to make him a 1-term president.
Numerous Trump supporters legitimately argued that the "master negotiator" would walk in and get both parties together.
Zombie James
Banned
1/8th of the way through his presidency.
1/8th of his voters regret it.
Good pace.
1/8th of his voters regret it.
Good pace.
Die hard Trump fans don't give a fuck. The smartest of them see his tenure as a way to get rich. The dumbest of them don't know when the wool has been pulled over their eyes. Either way, it's a "fuck you got mine" mentality.
Keep dreaming.
When he wins reelection in 2020:
Real talk, replace that text with "but her emails" and it'll probably be a lot closer to the truth of a year from now.
Keeps sabotaging ACA but can't make something remotely as good on their own. RIP healthcare...
buttery fistful
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and despite that large portion only 1 of 8 are "not sure" if they'd vote for him again? I'd expect more. Hence my post.
George Washington
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It's a joke. Iirc, that person being obliterated was Sarah Connor. I'm with her, get it?
Anyway, I have very low expectations for 2020. Don't get your hopes up. Trump voters will most likely stick with Trump when the time comes.
TheLostBigBoss
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If you expected more out of this short of time period I think you're getting your hopes up for little reason other than you projecting your own personal feelings onto those who voted for him.
That's my thinking and also it's early. Fatigue will set in even more so after another 3 years. The man is finished afaic
UnemployedVillain
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So 8/8 of Trump voters are dumbasses, but at least 1/8 are possibly regretful dumbasses
RPGCrazied
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Some people are still forgetting he barely won. Just by thousands of votes in some states.
Even some breakage at this point is big news.
Even some breakage at this point is big news.
TheLostBigBoss
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Honeymoon phase doesn't end with a drop off of ten + points.
Also there was literally no honeymoon phase for Trump, he started off at record lows for an incoming president and is at record lows for every point in time after he took office.
I don't think it's crazy to expect the status quo from the first 6 months.
I don't think it's crazy to feel like your interests, regardless of what side of the aisle you're on, aren't being catered to by this administration.
trump not keeping his promises (including the awful ones) is what will make his voters turn on him, yes
Joe Shlabotnik
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It's probably worth noting that his support increased in that poll since May.
He gained back nearly everyone who said they would not vote at all given a second chance.
Edit: I'm kind of stunned no one in Trumpland or Fox etc. (that I heard, anyway) pointed out that Trump and Bill Clinton were polling approximately the same at this point in their terms. Well, it's more like Bill bottomed out to Trump's level in June, but he's comfortably back in the mid-40s by August and at 50% by the fall. Which I, uh, don't see happening for Trump.
He gained back nearly everyone who said they would not vote at all given a second chance.
Edit: I'm kind of stunned no one in Trumpland or Fox etc. (that I heard, anyway) pointed out that Trump and Bill Clinton were polling approximately the same at this point in their terms. Well, it's more like Bill bottomed out to Trump's level in June, but he's comfortably back in the mid-40s by August and at 50% by the fall. Which I, uh, don't see happening for Trump.
Dubbedinenglish
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Trump's victory margin was so close that that margin would likely lead to him losing