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[Regulus Tera]

So there is a picture of the assassin all shot up. weird how no one got shot in the face and how there isn't any blood splatter anywhere in the white room and on the podium from the supposedly 8 shots that the ambassador took. That gun the dude is carrying definitely isn't a .22 and from that range, it seems like.

I'm not saying that this didn't happen, just saying that the seen of the assassination looks super clean for a man that was shot multiple times. The assassin's death is bloodied but just looks so staged.

Gunshots are rarely as bloody as what you see in movies

 

[UtterlyPerplexed]

No one gains from this at all. No one.

 

[op_ivy]

Come on. This is reality, stop pretending this stuff didn't exist. The pictures are not gruesome, though I can understand them being disturbing. But again this is reality. If you don't want to see them, I suggest you leave the thread.

I mean we could be here for news of the incident not to see it. Is it hard to post a link instead?

 

[Momentary]

There's pics of the gunman dead.

 

[Apathy]

So there is a picture of the assassin all shot up. weird how no one got shot in the face and how there isn't any blood splatter anywhere in the white room and on the podium from the supposedly 8 shots that the ambassador took. That gun the dude is carrying definitely isn't a .22 and from that range, it seems like there would be blood everywhere in that white room.

I'm not saying that this didn't happen, just saying that the seen of the assassination looks super clean for a man that was shot multiple times. The assassin's death is bloodied but just looks so staged.

Here we go.

So you're not saying it was staged but it looks staged.

 

[Biske]

It looks like a terrorist attack to me.
I'd like to hear some views on how this isn't a terrorist attack.

I think the idea is which terrorists its blamed on.

Already right wing websites are really pushing the 'he shouted Allahu akbar"!!! thing.

 

[PeskyToaster]

It looks like a terrorist attack to me.
I'd like to hear some views on how this isn't a terrorist attack.

The legal/official definition of terrorism is too broad and unspecific to be super useful.

 

[kmfdmpig]

It looks like a terrorist attack to me.
I'd like to hear some views on how this isn't a terrorist attack.

If they bombed actual terrorists and ISIS I don't think people would mind. The problem is when they bomb aid convoys and hospitals at an incredible rate.

 

[RobertM]

2016 ladies and gentlemen.

The Mayans were off by 4 years.

 

[Dalibor68]

I think the idea is which terrorists its blamed on.

Already right wing websites are really pushing the 'he shouted Allahu akbar"!!! thing.

From what I read(on our state broadcaster news page, not some right-wing site) he did actually shout that in the video, so yeah...

 

[theCalamity]

So there is a picture of the assassin all shot up. weird how no one got shot in the face and how there isn't any blood splatter anywhere in the white room and on the podium from the supposedly 8 shots that the ambassador took. That gun the dude is carrying definitely isn't a .22 and from that range, it seems like there would be blood everywhere in that white room.

I'm not saying that this didn't happen, just saying that the seen of the assassination looks super clean for a man that was shot multiple times. The assassin's death is bloodied but just looks so staged.

Finally, we have a forensics expert and crime scene specialist in here

 

[| Praxis |]

Did anybody read about the Russian hitman going around in Turkey, taking out targets like something from a spy film? It was on the BBC last week:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38294204?client=ms-android-samsung

Guess they'll have more work now.

 

[haveheart]

Terrorist attacks usually don't target high-profile targets like in this case. Terrorism is asymmetrical and aimed at a large number of innocent casualties.

This was a politically motivated assassination.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

You're not wrong.

But the way that so many are so quickly not only saying it will never happen, and even mocking the people who are afraid it might reminds me SO MUCH of the pre-election Trump threads.

Every time an international incident happens there are people in the thread screaming about how it's going to lead to a world war. It becomes a reflex after awhile.

I remember people having these same arguments when Russia invaded Georgia and that was 8 years ago.

 

[Weckum]

From what I read he did actually shout that in the video, so yeah...

That doesn't mean anything at all. Devout Muslims say 'allah Akbar' after having a good poop, so to speak.

 

[Biske]

From what I read he did actually shout that in the video, so yeah...

Yes. But highlighting that specific part and not the "this is for syria" parts has a clear intent of "ahah! another muslim isis guy.. tsk tsk tsk"

 

[Audioboxer]

I think the idea is which terrorists its blamed on.

Already right wing websites are really pushing the 'he shouted Allahu akbar"!!! thing.

Well it is Islamic terrorism. The killer stated their ideological motive, alongside a supposed cause. Posted a few pages back

This doesn't excuse what Russia is doing, but an ambassador killed in cold blood is not an answer to Aleppo. Sadly things will only get worse now as Russia becomes even more hostile.

 

[Dalibor68]

Did anybody read about the Russian hitman going around in Turkey, taking out targets like something from a spy film? It was on the BBC last week:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38294204?client=ms-android-samsung



Guess they'll have more work now.

What does this have to do with this thread?

Yes. But highlighting that specific part and not the "this is for syria" parts has a clear intent of "ahah! another muslim isis guy.. tsk tsk tsk"

What are you even talking about? He literally shouted the syria thing after shouting allahu akbar, see the post above. There is no "highlighting" anywhere but in your head in this case.

 

[Thaedolus]

So there is a picture of the assassin all shot up. weird how no one got shot in the face and how there isn't any blood splatter anywhere in the white room and on the podium from the supposedly 8 shots that the ambassador took. That gun the dude is carrying definitely isn't a .22 and from that range, it seems like there would be blood everywhere in that white room.

I'm not saying that this didn't happen, just saying that the seen of the assassination looks super clean for a man that was shot multiple times. The assassin's death is bloodied but just looks so staged.

Anyone with training knows to target the center of mass, i.e. the torso. No bonus points for headshots in real life

 

[Pennywise]

You're not wrong.

But the way that so many are so quickly not only saying it will never happen, and even mocking the people who are afraid it might reminds me SO MUCH of the pre-election Trump threads.

Might as well read upon the history of WWI instead of just throwing out wild theories and compare it to a fucking election.

 

[dankir]

The picture on the CNN front page the shooter?

 

[Funky Papa]

So there is a picture of the assassin all shot up. weird how no one got shot in the face and how there isn't any blood splatter anywhere in the white room and on the podium from the supposedly 8 shots that the ambassador took. That gun the dude is carrying definitely isn't a .22 and from that range, it seems like there would be blood everywhere in that white room.

I'm not saying that this didn't happen, just saying that the seen of the assassination looks super clean for a man that was shot multiple times. The assassin's death is bloodied but just looks so staged.

Real life is different from movies.

Also, gunshots from pistols are rarely as messy as those from longer weapons.

And then there's the high definition video of the ambassador getting killed.

 

[dripdripsplash]

He is dead.

Most likely an islamist judging by the rhetoric the assassin was using.

 

[Lovely Salsa]

Did anybody read about the Russian hitman going around in Turkey, taking out targets like something from a spy film? It was on the BBC last week:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38294204?client=ms-android-samsung



Guess they'll have more work now.

Why does his motorcycle have a swastika painted on it?

 

[haveheart]

Well it is Islamic terrorism. The killer stated their ideological motive, alongside a supposed cause. Posted a few pages back

This doesn't excuse what Russia is doing, but an ambassador killed in cold blood is not an answer to aleppo. Sadly things will only get worse now as Russia becomes even more hostile.

So he's a terrorist because of his shouting? C'mon.

If (no one knows yet) this was done by some Syrian rebel group, kind of a revenge act for the Russian support of Assad, you're basically saying that the rebels who fight against Assad are terrorists. There is a difference between political and ideological/religious acts of violence.

 

[Momentary]

Here we go.

So you're not saying it was staged but it looks staged.

Finally, we have a forensics expert and crime scene specialist in here

I was just asking why the scene was so clean.

 

[toadsworth]

Is it possible this was just one dude mad from watching the news of innocents getting murdered every day?

 

[Zoggy]

" don't forget Aleppo?"

Gary Johnson stAy safe brah

 

[Audioboxer]

So he's a terrorist because of his shouting? C'mon.

If (no one knows yet) this was done by some Syrian rebel group, kind of a revenge act for the Russian support of Assad, you're basically saying that the rebels who fight against Assad are terrorists. There is a difference between political and ideological/religious acts of violence.

He's a terrorist because he committed an act of terrorism. Cold blooded killing of another countries ambassador in a political/ideological attack.

 

[haveheart]

Is it possible this was just one dude mad from watching the news of innocents getting murdered every day?

Of course, no one took responsibility until now.

People are very quick calling out acts of terrorism.

@boxer: you're right. I wanted to differentiate between isalmic terrorism and "other" terrorism.

 

[Vibranium]

Man, what a mess all around. This guy is just going to inspire more and more copycats to come out of shadows.

 

[| Praxis |]

What does this have to do with this thread?

The fact the Russians seem to have people in that country killing targets and the possibility of even more now. You also had someone asking what the relationship was like between the two countries and this could also be interesting reading for others.

You could have simply ignored my post if it didn't fit into your definition, and we can carry on talking about blood spatter.

 

[Psychoward]

" don't forget Aleppo?"

Gary Johnson stAy safe brah

I chuckled

 

[Breads]

So there is a picture of the assassin all shot up. weird how no one got shot in the face and how there isn't any blood splatter anywhere in the white room and on the podium from the supposedly 8 shots that the ambassador took. That gun the dude is carrying definitely isn't a .22 and from that range, it seems like there would be blood everywhere in that white room.

I'm not saying that this didn't happen, just saying that the seen of the assassination looks super clean for a man that was shot multiple times. The assassin's death is bloodied but just looks so staged.

Say say you're a false flagger. You wouldn't be the first.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

Yes. But highlighting that specific part and not the "this is for syria" parts has a clear intent of "ahah! another muslim isis guy.. tsk tsk tsk"

It was Islamic terrorism produced by the events in a specific country. What's your point?

 

[akileese]

You're not wrong.

But the way that so many are so quickly not only saying it will never happen, and even mocking the people who are afraid it might reminds me SO MUCH of the pre-election Trump threads.

There's a very large difference between electing someone president and two dozen or so nations willingly going to war.

I'm not mocking anyone for saying WW3 is going to break out but it's important to realize that WW3 is the literal destruction of human civilization as we know it. There are too many nuclear weapons in the world for it to not end that way.

A further destabilization in the region is significantly more likely (more bombings in Syria and at locations controller by ISIS).

 

[norinrad]

Is it possible this was just one dude mad from watching the news of innocents getting murdered every day?

Let's here what the authorities have to say after their investigation, but in cases like these it's never a one man action.

 

[Biske]

I was just asking why the scene was so clean.

Those pictures were taking basically immediately as it happened.

Its not as if the guy had the bloody mess perk for max shock value. Not everything is like in the movies and video games. I assume if you get shot once or twice in the torso and fall back on it, its fairly innocuous

It was Islamic terrorism produced by the events in a specific country. What's your point?

My point is this kind of shit gets simplified into "just another islamic terrorist" which is dangerous and stupid and just lumps the whole area into some "just a country of muslim terrorists"

When in reality, when you have people fucking dying in their country and having legitimate grievances with that, you can't just sweep it under the rug of "ah these barbaric unruly muslims... gotta deal with them"

 

[Apathy]

I was just asking why the scene was so clean.

because real life isn't a movie or a video game

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Why does his motorcycle have a swastika painted on it?

And he's Russian....wouldn't they kinda NOT like the Nazi's.....?

 

[Danneee]

Trump's reaction to this is also important

Really?

 

[Audioboxer]

Those pictures were taking basically immediately as it happened.

Its not as if the guy had the bloody mess perk for max shock value. Not everything is like in the movies and video games. I assume if you get shot once or twice in the torso and fall back on it, its fairly innocuous

lol... Not really a topic for laughing in, but that remark just makes light of how ridiculous that post you quoted is.

 

[sphagnum]

And he's Russian....wouldn't they kinda NOT like the Nazi's.....?

If you didn't notice, Russia has become a far right country in recent years

 

[kmfdmpig]

And he's Russian....wouldn't they kinda NOT like the Nazi's.....?

It's always odd to see Russians, Americans, Prince Harry and others who should have plenty of reasons to despise Nazis instead embrace them.

 

[Dalibor68]

If you didn't notice, Russia has become a far right country in recent years

Not so much as the definition of what "far-right" means has shifted.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

Trump's reaction to this is also important

Has he already blamed the Germans or Chinese? Or, more likely, proclaimed that this could have been easily avoided if everyone had a gun?

 

[cpp_is_king]

So there is a picture of the assassin all shot up. weird how no one got shot in the face and how there isn't any blood splatter anywhere in the white room and on the podium from the supposedly 8 shots that the ambassador took. That gun the dude is carrying definitely isn't a .22 and from that range, it seems like there would be blood everywhere in that white room.

I'm not saying that this didn't happen, just saying that the seen of the assassination looks super clean for a man that was shot multiple times. The assassin's death is bloodied but just looks so staged.

Was this on InfoWars by any chance? lol

 

[LegendofJoe]

Every time an international incident happens there are people in the thread screaming about how it's going to lead to a world war. It becomes a reflex after awhile.

I remember people having these same arguments when Russia invaded Georgia and that was 8 years ago.

Georgia, Ukraine, Syria, and soon Turkey via the newly declared Kurdistan. I wonder what the common denominator is here?

 

[Pennywise]

If you didn't notice, Russia has become a far right country in recent years

Which is still hilarious (in a depressing way), seeing those Neo-Nazis from Russia praising and using the Nazi symbolism and rethoric, despite the rhetoric that actually aimed towards them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch

 

[OpinionatedCyborg]

I was just asking why the scene was so clean.

Fine, here's the blood you demand: http://i.imgur.com/tLuubbk.jpg