CarpeDeezNutz
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There's the radical Islamic terrorism!
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Russian ambassador Andrey Karlov assassinated in Ankara
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That's not as bad as I was expecting actually.
StrategyFan
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the magic words have been spoken
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andythinkpad
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Anything not on Twitter and with typo is not directly from Trump.
SenjutsuSage
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Because I know how ignorant people can be, I immediately, once hearing this, searched twitter to see how many imbeciles were somehow implying or suggesting that this is what President Obama meant when he said there would be consequences, or a response, for Russia's interference in our election.
Sure enough, we've gone full fucking crazy and this is pretty much looking like the type of thing that could gain enough steam (benghazi 2.0) from the most radical of the right wing before eventually being mainstreamed by Republicans in Congress. They will happily oblige, because you know they'll want to use it as a weapon in the 2020 elections. All that said, totally expected this would be somehow tied to Syria and Aleppo.
Sure enough, we've gone full fucking crazy and this is pretty much looking like the type of thing that could gain enough steam (benghazi 2.0) from the most radical of the right wing before eventually being mainstreamed by Republicans in Congress. They will happily oblige, because you know they'll want to use it as a weapon in the 2020 elections. All that said, totally expected this would be somehow tied to Syria and Aleppo.
i never really considered this until reading your post (although i absolutely should have)
can't wait for the ankaragate subreddit
"today a russian ambassador was killed by a radical islamic terrorist, bigly"
Isaac Otherworld
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That's basically what anyone should say, sans the gross emphasis on "Radical Islam." Like the other guy said, not as bad as I expected.
KO Traveling Hobo
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I wonder who wrote that for him.
This sounds like it could get ugly.
But this makes it sound like Russia's too set on its current direction with Turkey for this to change things.
JCreasy
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Pump yah breaks youngblood
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/12/andrey-karlov-turkey-1914/511124/
Actually world war is very unlikely over this incident. For a start Russia knows that ifor it goes after Turkey NATO will step in and that's a war Russia can't win.
There'll be rhetoric and strongly worded statements, they'll probably take their time appointing a new ambassador as a former if recall but war won't happen over this.
Morrigan Stark
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More like, murdering an ambassador has a certain symbolic power compared to some other types of murders, since it can affect diplomatic relations, not necessarily an implication that "it's OK if it's not an ambassador". Of course, that's how I'd read it if it were released by anyone other than Trump. With him, who the hell knows
NyMartin90
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Yea I don't think Russia or Turkey are in a position where this will change things.
Try to imagine him saying it himself. Just try.
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Do we even know if that's the case?
He's brown and lives in Turkey, so probably motivated by Islam (and totally not the fact the Russians are bombing Syrians).
Also I'm glad we're finally saying Radical Islam, this is how we win boys!
KO Traveling Hobo
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Take away: Assassinations don't start wars but if there's enough political turmoil building up then an assassination will start a war. Well good thing Turkey and Russia are on good terms.
KibblesBits
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Depends on where you are coming from, past history, and any new rules put in place.
At worst Russia instead of dropping 5 cluster bombs every block might drop 7 while also stirring up some trouble through proxies.
This wont escalate to any big thing. Unfortunately the innocent people the gunmen was trying to make people remember will be the ones who suffer for his action.
Meantime Russia continues to drop thousands of bombs on civillians and support a regime that has comitted the worst atrocities of our generation. They have decimated cities and killed over a quarter million people specially targeting hospitals and civilians. But yea, THIS is what violates all civilized rules.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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This is fucking terrible logic. So is assassinating an ambassador on in your mind if you don't like them? Literally all he said is killing an ambassador is something all people should condemn regardless of feelings which isn't something I see as especially controversial.
I'll bet my house on this not causing ww3. If you think otherwise you are either alarmist or grossly misinformed.
bodyboarder
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What they say and what they'll do are two very different things.
Sure, but some of the reactions I'm reading on this page alone are as if Putin has made some kind of threat.
bodyboarder
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I think people are going (rightly or wrongly) straight to worst case scenario.
TheContact
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Yes and it's nothing like this. There's no country openly backing ISIS.
I can see more of this happening. Imagine if a civil war broke out in the US, and Russia backed the government that started the whole thing by killing protestors. They start blowing up civilians, hospitals, homes. Then you get the only chance to kill a representative of the very government that does not care who lives or dies, only that the US faction they support survives to be a crucial geopolitical pawn.
Nearly zero, take some deep breaths.
TheCochese
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Apparently I have to go back and edit my post.
Turkey and Russia aren't on good terms. Not remotely. Just over a year ago, a Russian fighter jet was shot down by Turkey. Less than three weeks ago, Erdogan confirmed that their war goal in Syria is to topple Assad, not just defeat ISIS like they had earlier said.
We're seeing rising tensions between two nationalist and illiberal states who have are currently engaged in offensive wars against their neighbors.
Vigilant Walrus
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It is early to speculate but everyone remember, it's not even 2 months since this happened:
'Russian nationalists' behind Montenegro PM assassination plot
'Russian nationalists' behind Montenegro PM assassination plot
Russian Press was running it very heavily on TV that it was all the evil CIA etc. Russia may deliver more measured comments publicly but at home the feed full on conspiracy theory
Hello Pulitzer.
MisterFalcon
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You must have witnessed a lot of assassinations to be such an expert in how they are supposed to look.
That's insane. This fucking world, man.
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