TheMoon
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The mock-up looks like a GBA game to me, honestly. I don't see an issue with that.
They really should've been more proactive with this though. There are so many good examples or guides for how to run a good KS.
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Saber Rider and the Star Sherrifs: The Game - Kickstarter now live! (3DS/PC/MAC/LIN)
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The mock-up looks like a GBA game to me, honestly. I don't see an issue with that.
They really should've been more proactive with this though. There are so many good examples or guides for how to run a good KS.
Again, this isn't a "they didn't adequately prepare for their campaign thing", it's a "they're hopelessly unreliable and don't deserve your attention" thing. Look back over all the things posted in this thread: the years spent working/reworking/relaunching this game with nothing to show for it, the money they already took, the alleged lies about Manfred Trenz' involvement, etc.
I don't think they're running a scam--the very fact that they're still hinging all their plans on fuckin' Saber Rider suggests they're merely deluded and in denial about their own failings as developers--but that doesn't mean you should trust them with your money.
AcademicSaucer
Member
In for the pc engine
Entered this thread having seen adverts on Miiverse. Yup.
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/BplusGames.com/posts
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/BplusGames.com/posts
I remember that campaign. So the backers never received their rewards?
edit:
They talk about it at Gamestar (German)
http://www.gamestar.de/news/vermischtes/3235759/saber_rider_and_the_star_sheriffs.html
One of them backed them with 50€ and received nothing.
Kontergurke
Member
Seems like there has been an update to the Gamestar article: every backer of the old campaign will get the new game (if the kickstarter is successful).
TheMoon
Member
Huh, interesting. So now I'm getting two copies?!
(confused, I am!)edit: oh, they also added stuff to the FAQ at the bottom.
and here for the stuff about the first campaign on PLING (which was Germany-only)
Glad that they acknowledge the former pledger after all. Still don't have a good feeling about this kickstarter though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=22&v=EoN8oZCxB80
I guess that interviewing dude is well suited for this Kickstarter. Not sure if he doesn't notice how hilariously annoying his speaking style or the stuff he's saying is.
I guess that interviewing dude is well suited for this Kickstarter. Not sure if he doesn't notice how hilariously annoying his speaking style or the stuff he's saying is.
TheMoon
Member
is this your first Tilmen encounter?
My second. But this is infinitely more annoying. Anything special with that dude?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
The stretch goals are so damn stupid. Releasing first to Wii U, then to SNES and Dreamcast, and then to PS4 and XB1, and then Amiibo, and then at half a million an "HD Port"?!
Why spend the time and resources porting it to SNES and Dreamcast?! What's happening!!
I want to back this but the stretch goals are killing me.
Why spend the time and resources porting it to SNES and Dreamcast?! What's happening!!
I want to back this but the stretch goals are killing me.
TheMoon
Member
new interview with nintendolife
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20..._a_decade-old_dream_a_reality_via_kickstarter
good read
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20..._a_decade-old_dream_a_reality_via_kickstarter
good read
Yup. That's all there is to it really.
Bobs Big Boy
Member
Those Dreamcast & PC Engine stretch goals.
Not sure what they are doing but those are the right platforms for whatever it is.
Not sure what they are doing but those are the right platforms for whatever it is.
Well, these guys are ambitious, I'll give them that! The game looks interesting, and I love the aesthetic. However, I've seen enough Kickstarters underestimate insurmountable stretch goals, ruining the project. I mean, Story Wars had a full-on "Animated Short" stretch goal that was only $2,000 more than the last. It cost them closer to $500,000, so the company used the profits from the game's non-KS sales to cover it, then they stopped producing the game and went under immediately after giving backers everything they promised.
Dreamcast, SNES, and PC Engine are neat stretch goals conceptually, but those systems are long-since dead. Nobody's buying them any more, and there won't be enough demand for novelty back-ports to warrant the cost. Plus, they're prioritized over PS4 and XB1 ports, despite those consoles being where they'd make the bulk of their money. Then there's the whole Amiibo thing... Shovel Knight's a rare exception, from a company with a 3/4 million-seller after branching off of another trusted company. Outside of Smash guests and the Skylanders crossover, no one else has a deal drafted for Amiibo. I doubt a mere $400,000 stretch goal would convince Nintendo to start up negotiations for an Amiibo.
I mean, I like/am interested in this project. But they're making a lot of promises with no way to ensure they'll be kept, and are making other decisions without considering the consequences of, say, prioritizing the SNES over 2/3 of the current gen consoles. These stretch goals really have me questioning how much they've thought any of them through, and in turn, also have me questioning how the game itself'll be handled.
Dreamcast, SNES, and PC Engine are neat stretch goals conceptually, but those systems are long-since dead. Nobody's buying them any more, and there won't be enough demand for novelty back-ports to warrant the cost. Plus, they're prioritized over PS4 and XB1 ports, despite those consoles being where they'd make the bulk of their money. Then there's the whole Amiibo thing... Shovel Knight's a rare exception, from a company with a 3/4 million-seller after branching off of another trusted company. Outside of Smash guests and the Skylanders crossover, no one else has a deal drafted for Amiibo. I doubt a mere $400,000 stretch goal would convince Nintendo to start up negotiations for an Amiibo.
I mean, I like/am interested in this project. But they're making a lot of promises with no way to ensure they'll be kept, and are making other decisions without considering the consequences of, say, prioritizing the SNES over 2/3 of the current gen consoles. These stretch goals really have me questioning how much they've thought any of them through, and in turn, also have me questioning how the game itself'll be handled.
TheMoon
Member
Main guy worked at NOE for 6 years. Nintendo just has to sign off on the amiibo pitch.
TheMoon
Member
some more gameplay footage of the 3DS version in this extended version of the pitch video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IFC_z8Qyeo
TheMoon
Member
stretch goals have been restructured.
PS4/X1 now moved in front of PCE/SNES versions
Dreamcast now part of the base goal (?!)
PS4/X1 now moved in front of PCE/SNES versions
Dreamcast now part of the base goal (?!)
Hello backers and potential backers!
Today we have awesome news for the Sega Dreamcast Community!
We got a lot of messages asking if we can include the Dreamcast version from the start. It was difficult but we found a way. You can now pledege directly for your physical Dreamcast Version of Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs!
We have added 3 different Rewards
Dream Special Level 1 - Game only with Manual and Spine Card $49 - USD
Dream Special Level 2 - includes also the Games Soundtack on a second CD - $99 USD
Dream Special Level 3 - includes also the the Saber Rider Art Book - $139 USD
Please check the reward list for details.
We also reorganized the stretch goals a bit and added some Work in Progress 2D pixelart from the PC Version to our campaign page.
I still don't know, though. Shovel Knight may have cracked the floodgates open, but I still don't think we'll be seeing too many other 3rd Party Amiibo. Having an in with NOE or not, that would still mean we'd have an Amiibo of an anime character before, say, Daisy, and it'd be as a stretch goal for an unreleased game.
At the very least, Shovel Knight sold well for a year before fans started clamoring for him in the Smash Ballot, which probably sparked that deal. By that point, Shovel Knight was already a popular character with Nintendo fans, which is something Nintendo knew. I just think a $300K stretch goal is far from enough for an anime-based game to get an Amiibo.
Glad to see that the PS4 & XB1 goals got moved up, though. I love the idea of an SNES port, but I think that'd take up way too much time, and that prioritizing it over hitting 2/3 of the current gen consoles just seems silly.
TheMoon
Member
Nintendo isn't making them, they're not involved aside from signing off and granting the license.
I wonder if the game will suck in the true tradition of licensed games from that era
While I wasn't crazy about the show aside from Peter Cullen's Ramrod voice, I have to say that the soundtrack is amazingly good considering how low budget the show looked. It's on spotify if you're curious...
While I wasn't crazy about the show aside from Peter Cullen's Ramrod voice, I have to say that the soundtrack is amazingly good considering how low budget the show looked. It's on spotify if you're curious...
Yeah, but they still need to give that license first, and I don't think they'd be too open with it. Plus, it'd cost a lot more than what the stretch goal is asking for. It's a cool idea, and I'd love for it to work. I just think it's unlikely that it will. Same with the SNES port, sadly.
Don't get me wrong, though; I'm still interested in backing this! I just think that some of these stretch goals are shooting for the moon with parts they had in their backyard. I'll be excited if everything works out, though!
TheMoon
Member
I honestly don't even care about any of these stretch goals. I just want them to get funding for the base game so this finally can get made properly.
They've been jerking off for 10 years now; this game won't get made no matter how much they raise.
TheMoon
Member
Kontergurke
Member
Wow, I was checking kicktraq regularly and it seemed like the project wouldn't make it but since today it's trending towards 102% of its funding goal.
You can clearly see how the reordering of the stretch goals a few days ago affected the daily pledges.
Let's see if it can stay on track.
You can clearly see how the reordering of the stretch goals a few days ago affected the daily pledges.
Let's see if it can stay on track.
I wouldn't have guessed that all the kids he's drumming up on Miiverse would spend some cash.
I was all excited to back after seeing both a Kickstarter Staff Pick and Watermelon's email blast .... then I remembered and researched their past effort.... and then I considered that they plan to create and ship PC, 3DS, DC, and PCE versions of the game for only $75,000... and ship a bunch of random bric-a-brac as well.
The numbers and history just don't work, and for that reason: I'm out.
(Thank God it's not Galaxy Rangers -- I'd set fire to my wallet for that)
The numbers and history just don't work, and for that reason: I'm out.
(Thank God it's not Galaxy Rangers -- I'd set fire to my wallet for that)
The thing to remember is the people running the KS basically aren't making any version of the game anymore: the 3DS version is by Bplus, the various retro versions are being outsourced to people in those respective communities, etc.
That's not to say you should trust this KS--these people clearly don't know how to manage money and I kinda wonder if they even have the license to the show--but the fact that they've delegated the actual work to other people is probably the only positive to this whole situation. Money was never really the issue.
TheMoon
Member
Inexperience? They've all been working in games for ages. BPlusGames (dev of Bit Boy Arcade) is making the 3DS version.
The track record of Bplus is not exactly making me confident. But I guess that guy can make the game at a low budget, which is probably what matters the most.
Have you seen their past prototypes or did you even read up on their mismanagement in the past?
The Bit Boy games and Plättchen weren't exactly good games either. The 3DS game got a Metacritic average of 53 and the demo I played makes me think it was justified.
Moor-Angol
Banned
best systems first served
The money isn't going directly to Bplus or any of these other developers, though--it's going to the no-hopers running the KS and they may or may not make appropriate use of that money. They could have (claimed to have) hired Treasure for all the difference it'd make.