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Samsung Cloud Gaming service powered by Gaikai, plus tablet stuff

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B.O.O.M

Member
Well I did say that I think this will be about TV's but thought it would be for Sony TVs. But then again that could also still happen.
 
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kittens

Unconfirmed Member
Man, this could be really big. I'm almost positive next gen consoles will feature and heavily tout cloud gaming. Sony might even do it this gen.
 
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Zapages

Member
Krakatoa said:
Looks Awesome, I can see all SMART TV's getting this.

Well I hope so :)
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If that is the case that will really hamper down folks who want to buy gaming consoles...

There will be no need to buy a new console every 5 to 7 years. Just buy a smart TV with the option (subscription based system). Then you can play games on it with the game controller that you can buy extra for the tv (in this case logitech).

We'll end up with the same situation with 3DS and PSP Vita are in, but with consoles. The ultimate killer app....

The only thing TV makers will have to do then is work on the freakin input lag.

Overall the only thing that is hampering this to occur is with ISP their bandwidth over-charging.
 
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Effect

Member
Zapages said:
Overall the only thing that is hampering this to occur is with ISP their bandwidth over-charging.
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That, wide spread access to high speed internet, cost of higher speeds and if it's worth it in relation to all other bills, and the price of the TVs. These things aren't going to be cheap or even affordable for the mass market at first. Then there is the issue of first party titles. They aren't going to let their games appear anywhere but their own hardware. Don't be surprised if they go the extra mile of convincing/paying certain developers not to allow their games to be apart of this. They'll offer their own services first so you buy the consoles. PC games are likely to remain the focus I think at first.
 
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CadetMahoney

Member
Well I have 3 Samsung TV's in my house and can't say anything bad about them for the price and Sony looks like it's on it's way out so I welcome the new Samsung overlords/

All hail Samsung.
 
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thehillissilent

Member
Effect said:
That and the price of the TVs. These things aren't going to be cheap or even affordable for the mass market at first.
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Existing Samsung Smart TVs on the market will get firmware updates to include the Cloud Gaming service. LG is doing the same thing for their Cinema 3D tvs.
 
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Durante

Member
I think it's somewhat ironic that these high-end TVs will have a special feature that allows you to use them to display shitty-to-mediocre quality 720p streams.
 
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Zapages

Member
Effect said:
That and the price of the TVs. These things aren't going to be cheap or even affordable for the mass market at first. Then there is the issue of first party titles. They aren't going to let their games appear anywhere but their own hardware. Don't be surprised if they go the extra mile of convincing/paying certain developers not to allow their games to be apart of this. They'll offer their own services first so you buy the consoles. PC games are likely to remain the focus I think at first.
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Definitely that for sure... But I can see this happening by the time of the following console generation and generation after that... Ie. Maybe in 20 years or so unless there is a crash of the gaming market.

Now if Microsoft was smart they would allow this to happen and say something along the lines of this you can get games on SMART TVs through their service - ie. Gaikai or Onlive or make their own. But you will get the game about 6 months later compared to the console version, which is already true for the PC market. The 6 months wait for a gamer who just games once or 4 times a month, won't be a big deal at all.

I can see the casual market who went crazy for the wii, will probably just go with a new tv that has this functionality instead of going out buying a new gaming console when they are looking to buying a new tv for their home.
 
Fredrik

Fredrik

Member
Zapages said:
If that is the case that will really hamper down folks who want to buy gaming consoles...

There will be no need to buy a new console every 5 to 7 years. Just buy a smart TV with the option (subscription based system). Then you can play games on it with the game controller that you can buy extra for the tv (in this case logitech).

We'll end up with the same situation with 3DS and PSP Vita are in, but with consoles. The ultimate killer app....

The only thing TV makers will have to do then is work on the freakin input lag.

Overall the only thing that is hampering this to occur is with ISP their bandwidth over-charging.
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It's definitely huge but I don't think it will be a killer blow to consoles, not yet, it'll probably be more like Netflix vs Bluray/DVD.
 
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CadetMahoney

Member
ThatCrazyGuy said:
Seems like a huge deal for places with bandwidth caps and the like.
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Bandwidth isn't the problem. The quality of the connection is important.

As more and more devices get attached to the internet good luck gaming living in a household as mom and dad watch netflix, and sister is rinsing youtube. Then brother wants to torrent some porn and movies.

You'd have to play at unsociable hours or be a loner. That's why I don't see streaming taking off for a long time. . . no matter how much more bandwidth ISP's give out - there will be more demand as devices start all putting their hands in the pot.
 
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MightyHedgehog

Member
Durante said:
I think it's somewhat ironic that these high-end TVs will have a special feature that allows you to use them to display shitty-to-mediocre quality 720p streams.
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If their plan works, it should upgrade over time and added releases due to the install base that mass market televisions can reach.
 
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StoppedInTracks

Member
This is pretty fucking BIG. I can imagine casuals buying HD TVs and playing Madden 14 on those TV sets without buying a single console.

Console exclusives (as in not on streaming services) will suddenly matter 1000x times more than during this gen.
 
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Zapages

Member
StoppedInTracks said:
This is pretty fucking BIG. I can imagine casuals buying HD TVs and playing Madden 14 on those TV sets without buying a single console.

Console exclusives (as in not on streaming services) will suddenly matter 1000x times more than during this gen.
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From the financial point of view, that is why I say investing in OnLive and GaiKai is going to be a huge thing...
 
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ThatCrazyGuy

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CadetMahoney said:
Bandwidth isn't the problem. The quality of the connection is important.

As more and more devices get attached to the internet good luck gaming living in a household as mom and dad watch netflix, and sister is rinsing youtube. Then brother wants to torrent some porn and movies.

You'd have to play at unsociable hours or be a loner. That's why I don't see streaming taking off for a long time. . . no matter how much more bandwidth ISP's give out - there will be more demand as devices start all putting their hands in the pot.
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I see your point. Where I live, I don't have caps. Just wondering about the people who do.

I am concerned about the connections as well. In my house, there is alot of wireless devices connected to our router. I use wires for my consoles. I can see hwo it would suck if you have to game on off hours is your house is busy, or the ISP is acting up.

I'm still rolling with wired consoles next gen :)

Interesting to see how this takes off.
 
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thehillissilent

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Here's the details about bandwidth requirements from the pulled Verge article:

Next, we have a look at a hefty Asus laptop with a 120Hz 3D screen, streaming Darksiders in stereoscopic 3D. Gaikai says it takes a bit more bandwidth for 3D content since it's processing twice the frames, about 8-10 megabits compared to the 5-6 megabits the company typically recommends for streaming.
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S. L.

Member
CadetMahoney said:
Bandwidth isn't the problem. The quality of the connection is important.

As more and more devices get attached to the internet good luck gaming living in a household as mom and dad watch netflix, and sister is rinsing youtube. Then brother wants to torrent some porn and movies.

You'd have to play at unsociable hours or be a loner. That's why I don't see streaming taking off for a long time. . . no matter how much more bandwidth ISP's give out - there will be more demand as devices start all putting their hands in the pot.
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QoS mechanisms and the end of Net Neutrality will take care of that ;)
 
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Dr. Feel Good

Banned
Considering I have a Samsung Smart TV you'd think I would be excited about this, but the problem is Samsung's Smart TV user interface is so buggy and bad that there's almost no chance they pull this off right out of the gate. I'm assuming Samsung is making moves to be on top of the impending Apple TV invasion, but holy crap their TV's are anything but Smart.
 
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Totobeni

An blind dancing ho
out0v0rder said:
Wireless how, do you have to buy some sort of adapter?

How many USB ports do tv's have, one? Isn't that used for a wifi adapter?

I am cornfused.

I am guessing people are going to have to buy something else to make this work right?
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new HDTV usually have one or even two USB ports for media

wirless receiver with wirless 360 controller or Wired 360 controller or even something like with wireless USB RF adapter like the Phantom Lapboard will work on this I think.
 
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BY2K

Membero Americo
Well, Canada is fucked.

Our download limits are ridiculously low. Pretty sure it won't even be available here.
 
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east of eastside

Banned
Google will eventually enter the picture in all these smart tv cloud gaming deals as the ultimate secret partner. Then the shit will get real...Apple, Microsoft, Google (android partners - Samsung, Sony, LG, + Gaikai) and the cloud wars will begin (cue Star Wars imperial theme).
 
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M3d10n

Member
While the possibilities are massive, the potential for screwing up is enormous.

First, you'll need to buy something extra to play: a controller, most likely Samsung-branded and as over priced as their wifi dongles.

Second, your games will be purchased through a Samsung account, which may or may not work only on Samsung devices.

If not handled properly it can be a flash in the pan and become as irrelevant as TV vendors' walled online media stores.
 
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Pachael

Member
Funny to see that cloud gaming / streaming going from one twist to another in a matter of days. So, what's the ETA on this being extended to The smartphones like the S3?
 
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east of eastside

Banned
In any case, this is the end of the Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo video game console oligopoly's dominance of living room gaming. That alone is something to be thankful for.
 
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