victreeb3l
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Seems pretty disrespectful.
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Saudi Arabia soccer team doesn't line up for London terror minute of silence
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The Greek Freak
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Why would they? The Saudis are directly funding and encouraging this shit.
Would be like protesting yourself.
Would be like protesting yourself.
you can't stand around in one to pay hommage to someone who died because it didn't "exist" back in the middle ages or because "disbelievers" might have came up with the idea. I'm sorry but this is everything wrong with fundamentalist thinking.
What about computers and cars? That's where it gets me. I'm sure the Saudi were ok taking a plane to the game, but standing around as a gesture of respect is suddenly too much?
sorry if you meant mine, I was just saying it seems hypocritical from hardliners.
What about computers and cars? That's where it gets me. I'm sure the Saudi were ok taking a plane to the game, but standing around as a gesture of respect is suddenly too much?
sorry if you meant mine, I was just saying it seems hypocritical from hardliners.
DiipuSurotu
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^ This post is dumber than a Trump tweet.
Angelus Errare
Banned
We can take moments of silence, there's nothing against it. Saudis are just Wahhabist cunts who most likely didn't take it the moment of silence because the victims were non-Muslim.
The Artisan
Member
i want to know this too. what possible, insensitive-as-fuck-no-matter-what excuse could they possibly have to not comply with a minute of silence
You mean like how western countries seem to do the same when their own countries and/or when white people get attacked? No moment of silence, support hashtags, monuments lighting up or ceremonies from the west when a bunch of brown people get killed in middle east or Africa by terrorist attacks as well.
Also, it sucks the Saudis didn't at least attempt to honor those that were attacked, inexcusable shits.
Netherscourge
Banned
To be fair, the hooligans at most European stadiums don't exactly welcome the Saudi teams (or any other teams of non-Caucasian descent) with kindness and warmth.
Nobody should be lecturing anyone on proper respect.
Nobody should be lecturing anyone on proper respect.
gutter_trash
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this is the most vague whataboutism post
Many club teams and national teams are racially diverse, including England's national team
HighResTomato
Member
Seems inline with western customs.
Angelus Errare
Banned
I agree, though to be completely fair. I imagine there's societal pressure back home preventing some of the members who wanted to partake in the moment of silence from doing so.
Pointless whataboutism.4
The Artisan
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Familienoberhauptvogel
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I mean if you want one, a proper excuse, while still insensitive, would have been not participating in it unless it also is in honour of the victims of Kabul and other non western cities hit by terrorist attacks these past couple weeks.
Trojita
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Imagine how the world would be if people lacked the basic decency to learn, observe, and adhere to reasonable customs of host countries they are visiting.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Can we get a change on the extremely misleading topic title at least ?
"Saudi Arabia" did not refuse a minute of silence, their football team's players didn't line up. Those 2 are completely different things.
"Saudi Arabia" did not refuse a minute of silence, their football team's players didn't line up. Those 2 are completely different things.
Not surprised, Saudia Arabia is not a nice country.
Because they have oil and no country is willing to risk access to that so they just give a stern "Tut tut," and try to demonize someone else when they know full well that if they cut off the money flow then ISIS will die out.
Bullshit, I am ex-Muslim and none of the Muslim kids ever objected to the minute silent that was held for 9/11 or remembrance day.
No it's nonsense.
Because they have oil and no country is willing to risk access to that so they just give a stern "Tut tut," and try to demonize someone else when they know full well that if they cut off the money flow then ISIS will die out.
Bullshit, I am ex-Muslim and none of the Muslim kids ever objected to the minute silent that was held for 9/11 or remembrance day.
No it's nonsense.
The Artisan
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Victims in the East should definitely be honored just as much as the west, but not honoring the west isn't the way to protest. ALL innocent life is precious, wherever in the world.
I dunno if I would trust everything coming from that source. looking back at one of Rusty's posts, they apparently can come off as extremist
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=169244813&postcount=289
The actual post it does come across hardline. I'm not Muslim, but there are many others claiming that it is a cultural difference - not just the answer to that question itself.
This is wrong, dont spread lies please. Prayers are offered all the time to those that have passed, mosques often mention honorable people during prayers offering thier blessing as reward to those passed, communities gather to read the Quran in an effort to bless someone important, its an intrinsic part of the faith.
bonesmccoy
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lol
the link you posted comes accross as very hardline, "standing up for a minute of silence" being reprehensible? come on.
Yoshimitsu126
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Damn. I actually know a decent Saudi that comes to study and lives in the US. But damn if Saudi's reputation doesn't cross my mind.
openrob
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All these excuses and justification for what? Fucking Saudi Arabia. Why?
Your not defending religion here guys. Stop confusing the two.
And it's the governing bodys of the nations that decide all this, they were informed. They just didn't want to.
I don't even blame the players, they can't go agaisnt their country, most likely afraid, I would would be. The threads title is not misleading but correct in my books.
Your not defending religion here guys. Stop confusing the two.
And it's the governing bodys of the nations that decide all this, they were informed. They just didn't want to.
I don't even blame the players, they can't go agaisnt their country, most likely afraid, I would would be. The threads title is not misleading but correct in my books.
The article I read earlier (believe in the Independent) stated that the team held a minutes silence for something else not that long ago. The fans were not silent either.
Fuck them.
It's fucking embarrassing the UK is about to reelect May and her vile Tory Saudi arse lickers. What a shit population we have (thanks over 50's).
Scottish independence so we don't need to be ruled by morally bankrupt cunts anymore.
Fuck them.
It's fucking embarrassing the UK is about to reelect May and her vile Tory Saudi arse lickers. What a shit population we have (thanks over 50's).
Scottish independence so we don't need to be ruled by morally bankrupt cunts anymore.
The Artisan
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even if it is a cultural difference it is still coming down to them not respecting a different culture.
Slackbladder
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I was going to post something long and thoughtful. But why bother. I'm sick and tired of people using their "beliefs" as excuses for being cunts, who and wherever they are.
Even at work we had a minute silence after the Manchester bombing, and i and a few work colleagues are muslims had no issues joining in. I did it younger during when 911 happened, amongst other events.
Saudi Arabia are just stupid. Their laws are hypocritical to Prophets teachings, but it is beginning to show how ludicrous some disrespectful and stupid people have become. We even have few muslim members in the UK debating whether we should vote for "islamic" reasons. Its not Islam, its cultural stupidity. Also, ppl relying on IslamQA for answers? LOL a pro wahabbi site.
Saudi Arabia are just stupid. Their laws are hypocritical to Prophets teachings, but it is beginning to show how ludicrous some disrespectful and stupid people have become. We even have few muslim members in the UK debating whether we should vote for "islamic" reasons. Its not Islam, its cultural stupidity. Also, ppl relying on IslamQA for answers? LOL a pro wahabbi site.
RoadHazard
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Fuck Saudi Arabia, you terrorism-supporting fuckers.
MastaKilla
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I seriously hate Saudi Arabia, is there anybody who isn't Saudi Arabia who actually likes Saudi Arabia? Just about every Muslim i know hates Saudi Arabia. I guess the ultra conservative salafi/wahabis who take their money like them?
AcademicSaucer
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Hundreds of US and European politicians love them and their money.
Don't believe the few relativists and contrarians in this thread who want to give the saudi team a pass because " cultural diffirences ". They are just cunt. Ask any muslim you know, even the deeply religious ones, they have no issues with honoring innocent victims. Saudis represent a tiny sect of Islam that spread way beyond their borders because they have money. And now you have people trying to convince people that it's okay for the saudis to insult the memories of innocent victims because it's in the quran when it's obviously bullshit. Just look at the site that was linked. An extremist site full of wahabi propaganda. Not surprising.
Anyway everyone has a defense force on GAF, even pedophiles.
Fantastapotamus
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"To be fair, fans on the other side of the globe might not be super welcoming to them sometimes, so it's okay to be disrespectful towards the victims of a terror attack. Fans being dicks sometimes is totally equivalent with players not respecting people dying in a terror attack by standing in a line for a minute."
Is that what you are trying to say here?
Seriously?
Hold your horses. All I've stated was that this was due to cultural differences as mentioned in a couple of articles reporting on this. Is that out of the realms of possibilities? No. I linked to some shitty site when looking for an answer to try to understand some context instead of knee-jerk lambasting Saudi Arabia for the lack of respect. That's it. So don't give me that "defense force" nonsense.
giant_frying_pan
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There seems to be an awful lot of things that are forbidden.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
gutter_trash
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you are always there to counter me at every post in topic related threads when it comes to Saudi Arabia criticism
Give me one other example where I have defended Saudi Arabia. One. I've never done it, and I never would. You're seriously deluded.
Why would an anarcho-communist defend them? Mental.
CelticKnight
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I know it doesn't really add much to the discussion but... fuck 'em, bunch of cunts.
Cheers, Australia.
Cheers, Australia.
Didn't you hear? That's called "confronting extremism" now.
The Artisan
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back when I was in college, a classmate of mine died.
i reached out to either the pres or vp of the msa, and asked if we could include her in a prayer on friday. his first question to me: was she muslim?
answer was no. his response then was that he was sorry to hear about her passing but wouldn't be able to announce a collective prayer for her. i didn't tell him what i thought about that, but to put it lightly, i was not satisfied with that answer.
i then decided to take it upon myself to visit the chaplain of the msa, and what she offered was a moment/minute of silence (i don't remember which, this was 3 years ago).
now, i was not satisfied with that either but for the purpose of this thread and ultimately my point - i don't think silences for respecting the lost is forbidden.
there, that's my anecdote
How do the innocent victims of the london attacks have anything to do with hooligans ? Children died for christ sake.
That's what happens when you try to defend the indefensible. You go full whataboutism.
Nope I usually try to correct misconceptions.
There is no misconception here.
I truly am ashamed.
Maybe they figured that Australia only asked the minute of silence to intimidate them? Yeah still gotta join in then though. Or they really thought fuck Britain. Either way looks really bad. It's now causing a bit of ruckus in the Netherlands as well, because the coaching staff is Dutch. The coach first said that they weren't briefed but the assistant (also his son in law) then said that it was unfair because the coaching staff were observing the moment of silence. A big mess.
KZObsessed
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Disrespectful people.
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