SlipperyFishes
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That's a different game. Octopath Traveller.
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Secret of Mana Remake - PAX previews and gameplay footage
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family_guy
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At first I was meh on the artstyle, but it looks good from a top down perspective. The cutscenes where you can see the characters faces are the bad parts.
Game is looking great to me. Kind of crazy how divided the response has been.
Movement speed seems a little slow, but the actual act of attacking looks really good and satisfying. They did a good job of emulating the "burst" of any enemy dying like the original. Sound effects are spot on too.
Very pleased so far and it seems the creators have at least some reverence for the original.
Movement speed seems a little slow, but the actual act of attacking looks really good and satisfying. They did a good job of emulating the "burst" of any enemy dying like the original. Sound effects are spot on too.
Very pleased so far and it seems the creators have at least some reverence for the original.
GodfatherX
Member
On the 8-4 podcast they were implying this was getting a new translation to fix the issues of the cut content of the snes cd version and rush of the English translation, has that been officially talked about or was that just their speculation
AuthenticM
Member
lol neither. These images are from Project Octopath, a game Square is making. I was saying that we should wish for a FFVI remake to look like that instead of this Secret of Mana remake. I don't want polygons. I want pretty sprites in a gorgeous 3D world that uses sprites.
Huntersknoll
Member
Local Co-op?! Ayyy! Looks like I'll be forcing my girlfriend to play it with me
prodystopian
Member
This looks so much better in motion. One of my favorite games, and I'll almost certainly pick it up. Really curious to see if they change the magic system at all to prevent magic chaining and super easy magic leveling.
From everything I've read that's just speculation BUT looking at the videos of the first village they obviously don't have the same text limitations so I'd imagine it's gonna be more faithful to the Japanese original.
Skyfireblaze
Member
No need for mods aslong as either you or the person you want to play with has a Nvidia GPU. Gamestream Coop works beautifully aslong as the person you are playing with isn't on the other side of the world.
Granted, that would only be two-player though.
broncobuster
Banned
I think I like the look of this remake for resembling high res PSP/DS/3DS games like Nayuta no Kiseki or Dragon Ball Origins.
nature boy
Member
Looks great, although IMO SNES games have aged better than PSX games.
Vagrant Story and/or Xenogears remake (with Square loaning Takahashi for disc 2) if you're going to remake classics please.
Vagrant Story and/or Xenogears remake (with Square loaning Takahashi for disc 2) if you're going to remake classics please.
Movement looks so slow. It's a shame they didn't pull the camera back and just not have a minimap. They could just put the SNES graphics in an actual map. Also don't like how the placement of the player on the screen makes it so you don't have as much time to react to enemies below you. With the camera being angled like that, and with the character positioned in the center, with UI on the bottom blocking you, you have a much better view of things above you than below you. If they fixed magic being exploitable on bosses, and let you avoid spells yourself, then this might be a game worth playing. Offensive magic completely broke the original in my opinion.
Neato. Still unsure about certain aspects, but looks good enough for yet another playthrough. Wonder what the new translation is gonna be like. I probably won't like it due to being so used to the old one.
The minimap annoys me way more than it really should, though. I wonder why. Probably one of those old people yelling at clouds moments.
Dammit, SquEnix. You idiots. Not port begging, it comes out wherever it comes out, and I'll get it for PC at the very least, but three player multiplayer in the Biergarten or on a picnic would be perfect for, uh, certain other platforms. Tsk.
The minimap annoys me way more than it really should, though. I wonder why. Probably one of those old people yelling at clouds moments.
That feel when no GF for local CoOp and the only way for local CoOp with friends would be Nintendo handhelds (3DS/Switch).
Dammit, SquEnix. You idiots. Not port begging, it comes out wherever it comes out, and I'll get it for PC at the very least, but three player multiplayer in the Biergarten or on a picnic would be perfect for, uh, certain other platforms. Tsk.
Various Artists
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I wish we went back to a strict no port begging policy. These thinly veiled port begging posts from all sides just congest the threads.
"No port begging but, uh, veiled port pegging" is still port begging sorry it isn't coming to Switch, maybe it will someday until then it doesn't warrant mentioning or conversation.
SharePlay on PS4 allows for online multiplayer, if that is of any help.
Wheelatron
Member
I'm curious to see if the ring-menus work the same way i.e. pauses the game while any player opens the ring menu
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Watching the Youtube link, not specifically related to the game itself, but am I the only one irked by the over-use of the term "mobs" for enemies/monsters in offline RPGs?
It's a new game for the Switch (probably exclusive) by Square Enix. They are supposed to show more at TGS later this year.
It's a new game for the Switch (probably exclusive) by Square Enix. They are supposed to show more at TGS later this year.
If it helps, I'd take a PSP port as well, I think I could organise some of those in my social circle. As long as it's on a portable platform and offers local multiplayer, I'd be fine, really. This is a game that many of us enjoyed as kids with a friend or maybe even two. And handhelds are perfect for that kind of gameplay. Nobody of my friends whips out their home console controllers when it comes to multiplayer gaming. Well, except for our lone WiiU guy.
.... Also, veiled port pegging sounds nasty. I wonder what would turn up if I plugged that term into google. I'm afraid to try.
I have only 1 major issue with this games existence and it's that it probably needs to do well for square to continue making anymore mana games... which means rather than do any kind of official translated rom , SD3 will probably only ever come out stateside with ugly cheap looking 3D graphics.
I might have given aspects of the generic art style a pass if they'd added in some kind of shader to make the game look more like the clay diorama sculptures present in the manual. All of this could be rectified if they included a non-3D version with this version as well.
I might have given aspects of the generic art style a pass if they'd added in some kind of shader to make the game look more like the clay diorama sculptures present in the manual. All of this could be rectified if they included a non-3D version with this version as well.
Polygonal graphics looks kind of dull and "by the number", however I think Secret of Mana is an ideal game to be remade because the original has many glitches (characters stuck into the background, spotty hit detection), bad design choices (chaining magic, no short invincibility period after being hit or at least to disable stacking damages after you have been stun) and mediocre english translation.
The true dream would be Seiken Densetsu 3 finally officially translated in english (with the original pixel art).
The true dream would be Seiken Densetsu 3 finally officially translated in english (with the original pixel art).
i don't think square knows what Mana even is anymore. seems every game the past 15 years has a mission statement of having a forest fairyland theme and recurring characters while ignoring pretty much everything people enjoyed about SoM. ... so outside of remakes and remasters it may as well rip in peace as far as i'm concerned
Beerman462
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Graphics are serviceable in gameplay, but if they aren't going to make better character models or animate them for shit then keep the camera pulled out like the original. Framing them up in cutscenes looks bad.
Wheelatron
Member
This super short offscreen clip shows the ring menus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAC0LFeQivU
There is no "cut content" of the CD version; that project was scrapped but its name lived on (Chrono Trigger).
Translation issues I could definitely see being fixed. No cartridge limits here.
It'll do well enough in Japan alone for more Mana games. If you want to play the original SD3, just play the fan translated version. The official SD3 remake will have glitches fixed and official translation, which is enough to justify it being made.
MarkMclovin
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One of my favourite games ever.
Is the 16bit version included?
Is the 16bit version included?
dragonzdogma
Member
Just watched the YouTube link and it looks fantastic.
Physical for USA?
Physical for USA?
freeofgreed
Member
Really? Where did you hear this at?
Kresnik258
Member
Looks pretty nice to me!
Professor Beef
Banned
Of course the Vita will have local co-op, just like a bunch of other games that have released on it. Is this a real post?
GodfatherX
Member
Isn't that generally attributed to the rough transition the game takes mid game to 3rd act with little to no narrative explanation? That and the rushed English translation? I have heard for years that even in Japanese this part of the game feels chopped apart and stitched together
I'm insinuating that if they're too lazy to set up online multiplayer on pc/PS4 they're probably too lazy to set up LAN co-op on vita. I'm not a game developer but what's the workload difference between setting up LAN co-op vs p2p online co-op? If they won't do online co-op on pc/PS4 is it worth setting up local co-op on VITA still?
Yeah there's a whole part that rushes you through like three major dungeons back to back, and one of them even has the goal right at the entrance. It definitely feels like part of the game was cut, even if it wasn't from the format change. The rushed translation was likely to make a holiday release.
You're talking about that portion where you're being sent all over the world by "Jech" while you wait for his master to return, instead of being led to those places naturally by the narrative? I can see how that part could seem rather half-baked.
What was this bit? It's been an absolute age.
It's already confirmed that Vita version supports up to 3 players co-op play via Ad-Hoc.
http://www.jp.square-enix.com/seiken2_som/
entremet
Member
Nope.
A. that's not a spoiler.
2. her information wasn't even right. Excalibur is like the 5th or 6th sword upgrade.
d. The ENTIRE game's plot, from literally minute 1, is based around Randi finding "The Mana Sword" the final upgrade for his sword is the god damned Mana Sword... SPOILER I guess.
thechristoph
Sir!
Co-signed.
GodfatherX
Member
Thanks for the refresher, it's been atleast 15 years, if not closer to 20 years since my last completion. But still remember this bit, and some lore about the moon palace? being incoherent to nonexistent.