Though the other reviews in the OP mentioning the Shadow Wars/final act being grindy gives credence to the commenter.
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Shadow of Mordors true ending - Grinding or Lootboxes
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Though the other reviews in the OP mentioning the Shadow Wars/final act being grindy gives credence to the commenter.
Mushroomer25
Member
Yeah, it's a real shame literally every video game in 2017 is doing this. I really hated buying all of those BotW loot boxes to get the one sword I could use to beat Ganon. I also really didn't like buying all those loot boxes in Nier Automata, Persona 5, Horizon, and every other release in 2017. It is such a shame that it is literally impossible to avoid this through your purchasing habits.
Still, 40-50 seems like an exaggeration. Of the sort that we need firmer data on.
Not that I don't believe wb would do this, but the comment section bruh?
Forza is at 87 after several 70 scores that criticized the loot boxes had dropped the MC down.
I know it's not good enough for some but at least it's not 9+ anymore.
Greigor The Fellhand
Member
it'll only end when the Feds step in, and do wrist slaps
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
To escape Mount Doom after destroying the One Ring, you need a Legendary Eagle. You can get one if you spend 40-50 hours climbing around the mountains looking for an eagle, or you can buy a Loot Box. Without a Legendary Eagle to save you, you will burn to death in the lava streams erupting from Mount Doom. Buy a Legendary Eagle to see the true ending.*
*You need to buy two Legendary Eagles if you want to keep Sam alive too.
I mean, is it really a grind if you enjoy playing?
If the only reason you're playing the game is to finish then I don't think you're playing games right.
The biggest issue I see with this is having some secret ending after completing the shadow wars stuff. Honestly though I somehow doubt it's all that great/important.
If the only reason you're playing the game is to finish then I don't think you're playing games right.
The biggest issue I see with this is having some secret ending after completing the shadow wars stuff. Honestly though I somehow doubt it's all that great/important.
OriginalPoe
Banned
Not really.
M
Macapala
Unconfirmed Member
Man, I am so glad I don't play western AAA games anymore. I'm happy to say I have never played a game with micro transactions.
GavinUK86
Member
Get lootboxes, probably not, but using CE or a trainer will defintely be enough to level up orcs or give yourself unlimited money/upgrade points or whatever it uses.
Unless that highlights another problem, if you need a constant connection and using such things will be viewed as hacking the game and WB don't like that.
Don't do that.
wesleyshark
Banned
Going through this commenter's history.. Seems like a pleasant chap.
MontyBrown
Banned
I'd be fine if this sold 0 copies and the studio closed down.
Cancer of the industry.
Cancer of the industry.
MadLaughter
Member
Gooooooooooooooood stuff.
Yeah would be great for all those people to lose their job. Great mindset...
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
That wouldn't solve anything.
wesleyshark
Banned
Let's cancel video games.
Linkstrikesback
Member
Just imagine if WB had realised they could do this when Arkham Knight came out. You can either do the boring grind they left in for riddler trophies which was required for the true ending, or buy a lootbox to get a random one.
Salty Rice
Member
Sadly this is the truth.
Just look all the Forza 7 reviews where loot boxes and gating content in general made the game worse only deserves a side note without any real impact on the scores by most.
Its reviewing better then Mordor.
GavinUK86
Member
Of course it is.
HotchieMotchie
Neo Member
This was almost definitely mandated by WB, the publisher. Monolith doesn't really have any control on what their bosses want them to do. Wishing a bunch of hard-working people get fired for a decision that was almost definitely made by higher-ups in suits is kind of gross, tbh.
2blackcats
Member
Yup. Daily and community challenges give gold, not Miriam.
http://www.gamesradar.com/middle-earth-shadow-of-war-gold-guide/
So it's silly to rush the end game, just play a little every day as was intended.
Interesting to note that loot box rewards are tied to your level. So buying anything early game is a waste.
wesleyshark
Banned
Which makes sense. Saving resources for later in the game is usually always the best strategy.
You gotta feel bad for the people who actually did that Riddler trophy busywork to get a weak as hell ending that wasn't worth all the running around you had to do which sounds not dissimilar to what they have you doing in Shadow of War.
M
Macapala
Unconfirmed Member
No. The people making these decisions are the ones who should be punished. The people in the dev teams are just doing their job.
Does the game warn players about that? Kind of unusual for lootboxes
Maximus P
Member
So you'd be OK if EA closed down for having a pay to win game mode in ultimate team? How about rockstar for having an online mode in GTA that you can pay to prevent grinding.(which will probably be the same in RDR2) . How about Nintendo for locking content behind toys?
I'm not saying this is right but let's not overreact.
drotahorror
Member
It's almost like they wanted an end game for their game. Any action RPG with end game content is usually a grind.
Do you like to kill orcs? Do you want to keep killing orcs after the main campaign is over? Here's some shit to do after you 'beat' the game with a special ending.
It's quite shocking how people didn't expect an end game to be grindy for an action-RPG. This has been standard stuff for the genre since the 90's.
Do you like to kill orcs? Do you want to keep killing orcs after the main campaign is over? Here's some shit to do after you 'beat' the game with a special ending.
It's quite shocking how people didn't expect an end game to be grindy for an action-RPG. This has been standard stuff for the genre since the 90's.
sublimit
Banned
(just replace EA with WB)
Ah we are back in 2007 i see..
Can I buy a Legendary Eagle at the beginning and just fly to Mount Doom
This won't solve anything.
This is on WB not Monolith, closing down talented developers is a fucking waste.
Okami Haundo
Member
If there was no "special ending", I wonder how different the feedback would be? It seems that most are upset about the idea of grinding for that "reward".
2blackcats
Member
People are fucking vicious. I keep thinking of the guy on the team that died. This is his Swan Song.
Mass Effect 3 came out in 2012.
If they get away with this shit, and it looks like they will, the answer is yes... you can bet on it.
thehillissilent
Member
I'm glad Gameradar is coming out with these guides to explain everything. Lootboxes tied to your level is odd, but that definitely discourages you from buying any loot boxes until the end game.
Cool.
so were nba 2k.....tons of glowing reviews and not a single fucking one addressed the VC issue as good as it should have.
Despite forcing that one 3/10 review....we are nearly a month later and it still hasn't been fixed
wesleyshark
Banned
I like that there's actually something to grind for in the post-game. Gives a reason to keep hopping in to play beyond just itching the orc killing scratch.
2blackcats
Member
I don't know. Just saw that in the article there.
HotchieMotchie
Neo Member
(just replace EA with WB)
tbh I don't think it's moneyhats, at least not entirely
I think there are reviewers that ultimately decided this kind of microtransaction shit ultimately didn't hurt their overall enjoyment of the game
Not saying that's a reasonable justification, I just don't think the answer to why a game with questionable practices got good reviews is always "because money" all the time like everyone seems to think.