MrSaturn99
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Didn't we find that out when the JP 3DS version was datamined?
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Shadow Mewtwo is the second Namco character
It would be neat if Mewtwo got that as an alternate outfit, actually.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Unless things get insane when he evolves, doesn't look like the Grass starter will make it this time around.
Green Mamba
Member
Of course, Sakurai has stated that flying characters can't be in Smash because they wouldn't be able to fly indefinitely.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
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Yes, yes, and more yes. I made an official thread for KOS-MOS on smashboards but we didn't get many supporters. She'd be one hell of a fighter for smash NX! Hell, she's appeared in a lot of crossovers. People don't do much research about her ;(
TheDinoman
Member
Here's another sweet alt, it's Quint from Mega Man 2 on Gameboy. Basically he's Mega Man from the future turned evil by Dr. Wily.
Face off
A race to get back in time
Face off
A race to get back in time
MrSaturn99
Member
All these cool alts are just making the wait for that music mod even harder.
I've never liked the idea of a Grass starter coming in just for the sake of filling in a niche, but having an owl be playable in Smash would be pretty funny.
I've never liked the idea of a Grass starter coming in just for the sake of filling in a niche, but having an owl be playable in Smash would be pretty funny.
Professor Beef
Banned
Reminds me of Mega Tug from "Life of Wily."
I miss that comic...
I miss that comic...
NinjaCoachZ
Member
Take this and add Fei Fong Wong for the Xeno complete collection
Nocturnowl
Member
I thought your final smash was a roll up pin?
I would love if customs were less. . .terrible handled. Dropped by RNG and you have to have them already set up from another menu.
If they were unlocked from the beginning, and had everything as presets* that would be great. Maybe I would ACTUALLY use them for once.
* By presets I mean that all the possibilities of customs exist when you select a character. You can do 1111, 1112, 1113 etc if you just scroll down. All from the beginning instead of needing to make them somewhere else. Maybe I could make a (terrible) mockup instead of explaining this terribly.
Professor Beef
Banned
balladofwindfishes
Member
I'd rather they just cut customs, except for Miis, and just focus that energy on literally anything else.
DecoReturns
Member
More Trophies? You got it.
Sakurai, the Spoiler of video games. (Wasn't expecting Xenoblade spoilers).
Its dangerous to go to the trophy room haha
balladofwindfishes
Member
I like trophies. I hope Smash NX combines the 3DS and Wii U trophies together so I can collect even more.
Trophies was one of my favorite things about Melee. The level where trophies fell from the sky was so stressful for me because I hated missing any. I still love getting all kinds of characters and looking at the hoard. Seeing Viridi, Paper Mario Cloud, and like 20 other awesome characters on screen at the same time is wonderful, even if not all of them aren't playable. (I pray though)
I have probably got more enjoyment from trophies than custom moves in this game (some compared to none) so I suppose I wouldn't mind a few more trophies if customs aren't going to get redone anyway.
I have probably got more enjoyment from trophies than custom moves in this game (some compared to none) so I suppose I wouldn't mind a few more trophies if customs aren't going to get redone anyway.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
I think the game would need new trophies to reflect all the games that'd come out since launch (they kinda did that with the DLC Inkling and Fates ones). Maybe more music and a stage too..
balladofwindfishes
Member
It's a duo instead of just popo like the files imply.
This pleases me.
A lock for the next system that can handle them. Guaranteed
balladofwindfishes
Member
To be honest, I could easily see Ice Climbers being the premier character reveal for Smash 4 NX in the first trailer.
Like Villager and Mega Man were for Smash 4.
Like Villager and Mega Man were for Smash 4.
TheDinoman
Member
One more Smash mod for the day, I decided to change gears and do a stage mod for once.
Any Project M players around here might be delighted to see this, it's PM's old tourney-friendly Pokemon Stadium 2 edit! It goes over the Omega variation of PS2.
A close encounter
In case you're wondering, it does work with 8-Player Smash..but um, there's some very peculiar results, to say the least.
One crazy amiibo war we got going on here
The first thing to point out is that as you can see, the characters become ridiculously teeny tiny. This isn't exactly anything new, 8-player Smash generally shrinks the characters down to fit them on stages easier, but it's still a pretty funny sight seeing everyone toy-sized, lol.
Here's where the real issue comes in, the collision detection is completely off lol. As you can see the characters are floating directly under the platforms they should be standing on.
A similar thing is happening with the ledges. For some reason they're like four feet away from where they should be.
Regardless of these issues the stage still does work in 8-Player Smash but it seems to me the creator of this didn't exactly design it around it. Either way it's nice to be able to play on this stage again and also once again shows the promising future of Smash 4 modding. No need to come up with some coding tomfoolery the PM team had to put up with to get their alternate stage loader up and running, here all we gotta do is replace the omega stages.
By the sounds of things, we could probably add all brand new stages altogether without replacing anything anyway.
Any Project M players around here might be delighted to see this, it's PM's old tourney-friendly Pokemon Stadium 2 edit! It goes over the Omega variation of PS2.
A close encounter
In case you're wondering, it does work with 8-Player Smash..but um, there's some very peculiar results, to say the least.
One crazy amiibo war we got going on here
The first thing to point out is that as you can see, the characters become ridiculously teeny tiny. This isn't exactly anything new, 8-player Smash generally shrinks the characters down to fit them on stages easier, but it's still a pretty funny sight seeing everyone toy-sized, lol.
Here's where the real issue comes in, the collision detection is completely off lol. As you can see the characters are floating directly under the platforms they should be standing on.
A similar thing is happening with the ledges. For some reason they're like four feet away from where they should be.
Regardless of these issues the stage still does work in 8-Player Smash but it seems to me the creator of this didn't exactly design it around it. Either way it's nice to be able to play on this stage again and also once again shows the promising future of Smash 4 modding. No need to come up with some coding tomfoolery the PM team had to put up with to get their alternate stage loader up and running, here all we gotta do is replace the omega stages.
By the sounds of things, we could probably add all brand new stages altogether without replacing anything anyway.
Yessssssss. More legal stages.
. . .I had no idea 8 player smash shrunk characters. I guess it's because I almost never played it.
GiantBreadbug
Member
It could very easily be a body type that can work as a character. I could see it standing upright and having a nice, unique way of playing.
PadWarrior
Member
Here's another neat alt I downloaded. It's Mario's old Jumpman colors.
It's hammer time!ugh
Game Over
Little Mac and Mario in their primordial states
Prior to Smash 4, Smash always had a Jumpman costume but unlike the mod above it made Mario's cap blue instead of red, probably for visual clarity to distinguish it more from Mario's default attire. Tis a shame they got rid of it in Sm4sh.
Man, it's really nuts how we can add additional alt costumes without replacing old ones so easily. The Project M team struggled and had to come up with special coding to extend the amount of pallate swaps characters could have in Brawl. According to That Smash 4 Modder, we can have up to a whopping 263 alts for each character. Holy fuck.
Makes me wonder if Sakurai was planning on additional downloadable character costumes beyond the Miis at some point.
I wanted that Mario color so bad.
MrSaturn99
Member
Details from Sakurai's latest Famitsu column are coming out:
Dang it, I KNEW we were gonna have a Kirby's Epic Yarn stage! Not that I don't love TGCO, and having a stage from Woolly World way before it came out was a neat novelty, but the utter lack of content from Epic Yarn still stings...
I wonder what it would've been (Fountain Gardens?), and what were the original plans for a Yoshi stage...
Dang it, I KNEW we were gonna have a Kirby's Epic Yarn stage! Not that I don't love TGCO, and having a stage from Woolly World way before it came out was a neat novelty, but the utter lack of content from Epic Yarn still stings...
I wonder what it would've been (Fountain Gardens?), and what were the original plans for a Yoshi stage...
Nocturnowl
Member
We lost epic yarn but may have dodged a Yoshi's "New" Island stage.
I'm surprised that was the reason for the push of the Fire Emblem characters in SSB4, as I know Sakurai is a fanboy of that series. Good to hear that it wasn't completely one-sided.
MrSaturn99
Member
My guess is that they were struggling to come up with a new Yoshi stage and then switched gears when Woolly World was first announced.
That said, if we were originally going to get something from New Island, then uh, yeah, we dodged a bullet. Don't even wanna imagine what that ugliness would be like in HD.
They could have gone full retro and made a [Mario &] Yoshi or Yoshi's Cookie inspired stage.
The [Mario &] Yoshi stage could have a similar gimmick to Melee's Green Greens with the falling enemies while introducing a new one of the base platform being made of four plates that are swapped around every so often.
The [Mario &] Yoshi stage could have a similar gimmick to Melee's Green Greens with the falling enemies while introducing a new one of the base platform being made of four plates that are swapped around every so often.
balladofwindfishes
Member
They could have just given us Yoshi's Island Brawl on both consoles.
I would have accepted that.
I would have accepted that.
263 alts for each character? fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
Smash 4 modding moving forward nicely. How many stages can be added to the game? I want Fountain of Dreams ASAP.
I hope it's not too hard for modders to transfer their Brawl work over to Smash 4. So much good was added to that game from mods. It looks like they got the Stadium 2 stage into Smash 4, which is good, but that's a fairly basic stage.
Smash 4 modding moving forward nicely. How many stages can be added to the game? I want Fountain of Dreams ASAP.
I hope it's not too hard for modders to transfer their Brawl work over to Smash 4. So much good was added to that game from mods. It looks like they got the Stadium 2 stage into Smash 4, which is good, but that's a fairly basic stage.
balladofwindfishes
Member
By just replacing Omega stages, there are 55 of those.
I'm guessing 256 is the cap for stage slots, although at some point page 2 of the SSS would get so obnoxiously full, it would be unusable.
balladofwindfishes
Member
That would be the fastest way to get any website hosting those files shut down.
TheDinoman
Member
While we're on this subject, someone made a whole set of Shadow costumes, complete with their own voice clips separate from Sonic's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QV5Dk28h5s
By the way, I asked the creator in the Smash 4 Discord chat and yes, in addition to voice clips, alt costumes can also have their own sound effects. It hasn't been implemented yet, but before he releases the costumes he's most likely going to replace the revving and jumping sounds with the SEs from Sonic Adventure 2. Just for reference....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QV5Dk28h5s
By the way, I asked the creator in the Smash 4 Discord chat and yes, in addition to voice clips, alt costumes can also have their own sound effects. It hasn't been implemented yet, but before he releases the costumes he's most likely going to replace the revving and jumping sounds with the SEs from Sonic Adventure 2. Just for reference....
TheDinoman
Member
I always felt that the proportions of Toon Link were too different from that of Young Link to properly work. It's why I can't see there being a Classic Sonic costume for Sonic.
That being said, I kinda like the idea of giving Toon Link an alt that simply just makes his clothes look like YL's, as seen here.
I always felt that the proportions of Toon Link were too different from that of Young Link to properly work. It's why I can't see there being a Classic Sonic costume for Sonic.
That being said, I kinda like the idea of giving Toon Link an alt that simply just makes his clothes look like YL's, as seen here.
Good point about the proportions, but that costume looks a bit... off, to be honest.
MrSaturn99
Member
Yeah, not feeling that mod...
Nah, that would've been another drop in the bucket for the recycled content complaint. I'm glad they made the effort to make a new stage.
Nah, that would've been another drop in the bucket for the recycled content complaint. I'm glad they made the effort to make a new stage.
Steve Youngblood
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I always felt that the proportions of Toon Link were too different from that of Young Link to properly work. It's why I can't see there being a Classic Sonic costume for Sonic.
That being said, I kinda like the idea of giving Toon Link an alt that simply just makes his clothes look like YL's, as seen here.
Kill it with fire.
balladofwindfishes
Member
YI:B is one of the best designed stages in the series, and looks fantastic in HD. I'm sure nobody would care, just like nobody cared when Smashville or Lylat came back, because people love those stages.
YI:B not being on the Wii U because of the 3DS is another crime the 3DS version committed.
MrSaturn99
Member
It's be a bad idea to have no new Yoshi stage, but it'd would've made for a perfect complement to Woolly World. I like Melee Yoshi's Island, too, though.
Hopefully we'll see all three in the NX version.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
http://sourcegaming.info/2016/05/11/sakuraifanmisconception505/
Mario Land and Epic Yarn stages was considered for Smash 4. Honestly, I don't mind to see Epic Yarn stage however I really like Yoshi Yarn stage so I'm okay with it.
Mario Land and Epic Yarn stages was considered for Smash 4. Honestly, I don't mind to see Epic Yarn stage however I really like Yoshi Yarn stage so I'm okay with it.