IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I'm not sure why? but how? Yoshi is up there too.
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Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments
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I'm not sure why? but how? Yoshi is up there too.
I really love the artwork, but I hope they don't go for a white background again. That's just me.Random likely fake character select screen:
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Because Mewtwo ain't coming back. Also, that Yoshi is clearly a GCN-era render, so that also points to fake.
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It was nice of them to use Mewtwo's dreadful low-poly Battle Revolution model.
I think Wario has a higher chance of being up there than Mewtwo does.
Smashman45
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Yep, that's old Yoshi artwork. Fake
User 73706
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Master Chief confirmed?
RealDeadOne
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I'm not sure why someone would go to the trouble of faking a select screen just to add one new character and Yoshi
Also for those saying fake because no Wario/Diddy/other likely starting character, if this was real (it isn't) it'd probably be the select screen for a demo event or something where only confirmed characters are playable. So if this were real (which it isn't), it would confirm the next two reveals to be Yoshi and Mewtwo.
Also for those saying fake because no Wario/Diddy/other likely starting character, if this was real (it isn't) it'd probably be the select screen for a demo event or something where only confirmed characters are playable. So if this were real (which it isn't), it would confirm the next two reveals to be Yoshi and Mewtwo.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I don't think creator is trying to trick anyone. Just demonstrated the possibility of characters screen selection.
Even I know it's fake but I think you are too quickly to write Mewtwo off. It's a possibility that they are going to bring Mewtwo back.
Baron von Loathsome
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Random likely fake character select screen:
It's a well-made fake.
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Then why is it an off-screen shot?
Nocturnowl
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The real thing giving away that Character select screen is that the background doesn't have random stuff going on, it's just blank white, that ain't the Sakurai menu way.
RMS Gigantic
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Random likely fake character select screen:
Yep, gonna have to go with fake.
1) Either the character selection is smaller than even Melee's (which seems especially unlikely given the rate of character reveals recently), or there are a lot of unlockable characters.
2) If the latter, then it seems odd that they would have a "Random" button before they would have an icon for hidden unlockable characters (which could be nifty placeholders for an incomplete character select screen)
3) As mentioned previously in these parts, Smash tends to have really organized character selection screens in terms of franchise, but just try to follow where the members of the Mario franchise alone are located (Mario, Luigi, Princess Peach, Bowser, and Rosalina & Luma in case you miss one amid the disorganization)
4) The other possibility to result in this image is that the developers only work at one character at a time and just slap them in as they're done without even thinking about characters who aren't in the game yet. This would imply higher-ups who choose a character and then begin twiddling their thumbs as the art designers make an icon and then begin twiddling their thumbs until getting another order from the higher-ups, who won't begin brainstorming again until the game designers relay back to them that a character has been successfully added.
Huh? Villager wasn't highly requested, Tom Nook was in the series but even then he wasn't asked for that much. Not to mention the leak didn't outright said that's all of the newcomers.
I love when people use terrible renders of characters... like when people used to use Sonic's Sonic 06 render. Eughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Is that.....a 360 controller under neath "Player #"?? Maybe it's the CC Pro, but considering it's white, my mind went to 360.Random likely fake character select screen:
They both have very similar shape but that's the GamePad Pro. You can tell by the fact the right analog is on top while the face buttons are at the bottom.
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Nintendo's going 3rd party sooner than expected.
If Sakurai cuts you from the roster, that shows he thinks the character doesn't deserve to be a playable character and never will be one again. Same with AT and Forbidden 7 characters.
Weren't Bowser and King Dedede going to be in Smash 64 but was cut?
Oh and don't forget that Charizard was a Pokeball Pokemon!!
Oh and Pit was just a Trophy in Melee
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Those games were rushed out and/or had memory restrictions. Brawl had all the time in the world and a dual layer DVD, so if you were cut from that game, you're effectively dead.
Brawl was rushed too >_>
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It was delayed twice.
Some of the shit in Brawl was obviously last minute additions. Jigglypuff? The 3 LANDMASTERS? Sonic's inclusion in SSE along with his music selection for his stage? Half of the freaking trophies, especially in series like Donkey Kong?
That game had way too much stuff in it, so some of the content suffered due to it. They were overly-ambitious which resulted in certain aspects of the game being rushed.
Less Mewtwo and more the fact that every other character has been revealed already. I doubt we seriously got the whole starting roster minus one.
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If Sakurai didn't think that Brawl was done, he could have easily asked for more time. Nintendo was selling Wiis like hotcakes back then, and Iwata has been proven to be a big pushover when it comes to his fellow creators, so if Brawl needed another 6 months, it would have got them.
Wishmaster92
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Pic of the day. Who's the girl next door, living in the haunted mansion? You'd better learn my name because it's
wow....lol
Neoriceisgood
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I don't say this lightly.
The guy who wanted Batman had more logical posts than these.
MrSaturn99
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Retconned in Game and Wario
wait
shit
this means we're going to get content from that game doesn't it
It's one of the most hyped games of its time and you THINK they'd be alright with it being delayed for half of a freaking year?
Green Mamba
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For those calling false on it based on character ordering and who is there and who is not--
This was the character select screen at the playable Brawl demo at E for All in October 2012:
This was what the character select screen looked like in the actual release of Brawl prior to unlocking anyone:
There's nothing inherently wrong with how the icons are arranged or anything. The Yoshi picture is far more damning.
This was the character select screen at the playable Brawl demo at E for All in October 2012:
This was what the character select screen looked like in the actual release of Brawl prior to unlocking anyone:
There's nothing inherently wrong with how the icons are arranged or anything. The Yoshi picture is far more damning.
IntelliHeath
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Have you ever thought that he might not intended to cut those characters because SEGA decided to ask Sakurai to add Sonic in the game at late development schedule? According to people, Mewtwo is mostly completed character that was nixed from the Brawl.
I would love to make a bet with you for sure since you seem to set in stone that cut characters or AT wouldn't become playable character in SSB Wii U and 3DS.
Indeed, the delays forced them to miss the holiday season, and the Nintendo fiscal year ends in March. Brawl needed to be sold by then so they could have something to show for the dev costs.(Though I imagine the game itself is far from the whole picture.) Even when we're not talking about sales, IIRC Brawl took resources from a couple of Nintendo's other dev teams.
The Bankslammer
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9-volt's room as a stage with demon 5-volt as a stage hazard
I really don't understand why people think a game is just going to be ignored because fan and critic reception wasn't good. This isn't a celebration of Metacritic scores.
MrSaturn99
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That and this rendition of Ashley's Theme are the only stuff I'll accept from that game.
Considering we had content from Donkey Kong: Barrel Blast (Christ, those trophies), Yoshi's Island DS and Urban Champion in Brawl, no, I'm not surprised we'll get our share of crappy games getting their piece of the pie.
Game & Wario just really aggravates me for many, many reasons.
That's totally false. There are files inside Brawl's disc concerning Mewtwo, just like Roy and other characters. Sakurai didn't want to cut anyone, he just didn't have time to bring everybody back, also due to Sonic's last minute inclusion.
NeonZ
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Well, it's basically known that Sonic wasn't a planned addition initially, which is why there are some oddities about his implementation, like the SSE participation and bgms, but I don't think that necessarily means the game was rushed. They'd likely have to spend quite a bit of resources to give Sonic participation on par with other series. If they were adding him after everyone else. I guess they settled for making him superficially similar to the others, rather than actually spending all that extra budget on a guest.
The trophies likely were just a matter of budget allocation. They chose to go with 3d models from other games, or from Brawl itself, rather than making 3d models just to be trophies, unlike what Melee often did.
I'm not sure if Jigglypuff was really rushed either. Toon Link clearly wasn't at least, considering his stage, and he also was another character who had no role in SSE. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the cast had been planned to be extras like that from the start.
Sakurai has said that Sonic was the only character added that wasn't intended from the start of development, and, if Jigglypuff had been intended from the start, but had her implementation rushed due to the game schedule, that shouldn't really stop her from appearing in SSE's story, considering how the SSE animations seemed to be done rather early in development (just look at Sonic's situation). Maybe, if Roy and Mewtwo had made it, they also would have been post-SSE extras?
So with Ashley being revealed, what kind of stage do you all think WarioWare will get this time? I'm hoping for another elevator stage with all new minigames (sort of like Pokemon Stadium 2's upgrade to the original in Brawl), or maybe Diamond City with lots of random wacky cameos from guys like Dr. Crygor and Fronk in the background.
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lol, again with the tilted offscreen shot to make a fake seem more legit.
tonyh24613
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I like the design, but no Luma with Rosalina means it's fake :|
balladofwindfishes
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Which is why characters were cut due to time constraints and there was a delay?
The Bankslammer
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I guess the deal is her eyes change color now.
Flat-colors have generally been the norm for WarioWare, but pretty much everyone had their eyes changed to black in Game & Wario to put it more in line with the Rhythm Heaven art style, I guess.
Dusk Golem
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I'm hoping for WarioWare expanded personally (I like the minigame stage, okay?) but I hope if they base it off the new Wario game, they'll make it based on 9-Voltts Stage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt7Io7s35YU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt7Io7s35YU
MrSaturn99
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Same thing happened with the Brawl Dojo when they showed the Samurai Goroh Assist trophy way, way before Captain Falcon was leaked.