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[Garlador]

I think you should have just posted this in this thread that we already had going: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1144361

That's asking people why they hate the prequels.

I'm asking people to focus on what the prequels did right and the things they legitimately loved.

Like this, for instance:

Yeah... wear that dress... You knew exactly what you were doing, you coy little minx...

 

[Anth0ny]

I think you should have just posted this in this thread that we already had going: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1144361

we need to fill the quota. 3 star wars threads a day, every day until force awakens drops.

That's asking people why they hate the prequels.

I'm asking people to focus on what the prequels did right and the things they legitimately loved.

 

[Ray Wonder]

Yousa crazy! Yousa nota now whatsa you talkin about! Blllblblblbababla

Haha, yay!

 

[ryutaro's mama]

One thing that has long bothered me :
Don't Obi-Wan kill Darth maul by revenge, thanks to the anger of having seen his master killed?

Maul also had the high ground.

 

[Always-honest]

Jar Jar is terrible and the prequels are terrible.

This is the only truth i know.

 

[CloudyTuba]

I was with you until I got to the meat of your post and you started talking about Jar Jar. Then you went off the deep end so I'm just going to ignore all that and imagine this post is just a thread about things we liked about those movies even if we are not fans of them. I'm not a fan of the prequels but there are still ideas of worth in them.

The broad strokes are pretty good. The way Palapatine snuck his way into power and the whole Clone Wars thing. Those are neat. The clones in general were great and spawned The Clone Wars tv series which is the best Star Wars since the OT. I actually think making Fett a special clone is actually a pretty cool idea. While TPM may not be the greatest movie, I thought the film had a particular look that I liked that was lost in 2 and 3. The movies had a lot of fun design too, the artists did a good job thinking that stuff up. Some good spaceship, some neat droids. John Williams is John Williams and not much more needs to be said about that. I'm not super into Maul but I gather he has a lot of fans so that's good. I actually liked Jango Fett, he had a more worthy death than Boba had. Boba fell into a hole because he got beat up by a blind man who didn't know he was in a fight, Jango got decapitated while directly fighting a jedi.

 

[brandonh83]

I wouldn't say that Obi-Wan killed Maul by revenge. They were both trying to take Maul down before what happened to Qui-Gon, and Obi-Wan was in a position where it was kill or be killed straight up. Was there a feeling of revenge in him? Probably, but he would've tried to take him out regardless.

 

[Ray Wonder]

What if VII is awesome but the hardcore fans hate it and say it's bad like they do to the prequels.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Ok. The only thing I like about the prequels is Darth Mauls design. Not his character since we dont know jack shit about him. Just his design. The pod race was OK, the part where they put Vaders armor on him is OK. Thats all for me.

 

[Little Old Man]

The dialogue. Remembering the lines from EP2 in particular got me so many girls in high school.

 

[Garlador]

This is the only truth i know.

But Jar Jar is the key to all of it.

 

[Nibel]

OP reads like a classic tag-fishing attempt

Next

 

[ratcliffja]

Episode 3 is great, but there others aren't. I don't see 7 being any better though.

 

[MilkyJoe]

there is no greatness. episode I, II and III are shit movies. stop trying to retconning the reality.

 

[brandonh83]

The dialogue. Remembering the lines from EP2 in particular got me so many girls in high school.

The love scene dialogue is super cringe-worthy, but honestly what I got out of it was this guy who had been sheltered all his life, especially when he became a Jedi, and just got all pent up and talked like a fool around Natalie Portman. I could see myself saying some really stupid shit if I were trying to hit on Natalie Portman. I know I've said stupid shit around many a lady. And, I mean it usually worked out, like you said (I didn't use lines from the movie though lol)

That's not an excuse for bad writing or acting but it's how I deal with it.

 

[LiK]

Episode 3 is great, but there others aren't. I don't see 7 being any better though.

"you're breaking my heart!"

 

[dorkkaos]

Palpatine's rise to power is awesome.

 

[Garlador]

"you're breaking my heart!"

"She lost the will to live."

That said (gets more gasoline for the fire)...

In an interview with Vanity Fair this week, the creator of the galaxy far far away was asked who he would be if he had to be a Star Wars character. He paused for a moment, equivocating, before offering an absolute truly worthy of a Sith. "Jar Jar Binks," he said, the corners of his mouth curling into a wry smirk.

 

[cyberheater]

there is no greatness. episode I, II and III are shit movies. stop trying to retconning the reality.

Yep. They are an utter waste of the Star Wars universe.

 

[EPaul]

Some of the light-saber battles in episode 3 was awesome

 

[DoctorFling]

I hate the bloody prequels, but the Jar-Jar story is sad. I'm sure there's a metaphor for George Lucas in there somewhere but that's for someone far smarter than I am to discover.

 

[Chuckie]

Slave One and its Seismic Charges

 

[bengraven]

Like this, for instance:


Yeah... wear that dress... You knew exactly what you were doing, you coy little minx...

That scene represents everything I think is sexy in a woman. My biggest celeb crush, black, leather, choker, bare shoulders, tight bodice.

I remember watching it in theaters going "they shouldn't be allowed to show this, it's too fucking hot".

 

[Mengy]

What if VII is awesome but the hardcore fans hate it and say it's bad like they do to the prequels.

Lucas didn't write VII nor is he directing it, so the chances of it at least being a decent Star Wars movie are pretty good. And since JJ is at the helm it's chances of being a fantastic movie are actually really great.

We'll know soon enough.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

I hate the bloody prequels, but the Jar-Jar story is sad. I'm sure there's a metaphor for George Lucas in there somewhere but that's for someone far smarter than I am to discover.

Star Wars is for kids, so it's okay to have really dumb characters and dialog.

 

[TheSecondSpitter]

Maul also had the high ground.

it's like poetry, it rhymes .

 

[Anth0ny]

Episode 3 is great, but there others aren't. I don't see 7 being any better though.

 

[Hex]

I have seen some twisted and deviant account suicides but this is just foul on a new level.

 

[Kaladin]

Anakin said it best in Episode II....

If you are suffering as much as I am, please tell me.

 

[The Omega Man]

The prequels never happened, all we know about the past is what Old Ben tells Luke

 

[The Hermit]

Glorious OP.

Darth Jar Jar inbound

 

[UnforgivenTwin]

Jar Jar Binks isn't misunderstood at all. He is just a widely hated retard.

 

[Garlador]

Yep. They are an utter waste of the Star Wars universe.

Granted, he was wasted in the prequels, but I still think Maul was one helluva great presence in Episode 1.

 

[FartOfWar]

Is disney paying for these threads?

 

[LiK]

the prequels are only good if you watch the 4 hour fan edit where they combined all 3 movies and cut out the awful stuff.

 

[ratcliffja]

Yeah there are stupid lines but there were stupid lines in the originals. The final fights were great and the emperor hamming it up was some of the best stuff in the whole series. I also really enjoyed how they resolved some of the final ties to the original series.

 

[The Illiterati]

Good god people, expand your horizons. Watch some other movies. Good, bad, the prequels don't deserve 9 million threads and ageless discussion. Move ON.

 

[Rival]

I cannot imagine a situation where I would ever purposely watch one of the prequels again.

 

[brandonh83]

the prequels are only good if you watch the 4 hour fan edit where they combined all 3 movies and cut out the awful stuff.

That doesn't sound like a story/pacing disaster at all.

 

[Dai101]

I'm asking people to focus on what the prequels did right and the things they legitimately loved.

I'll bite

 

[Veritigo_X]

I like the Clone Wars show, which wouldn't have happened without the prequels. That's literally the only redeeming thing about them.

 

[brandonh83]

Dooku is one of my favorite characters in anything. Pure class. His fight with Anakin in III was fantastic.

 

[LiK]

That doesn't sound like a story/pacing disaster at all.

the entire first movie is just 10 min of flashbacks, hahaha

 

[Ivan Amiibo]

That doesn't sound like a story/pacing disaster at all.

WOW PLEB, JEDIGUY69 IS ONLY THE MOST RESPECTED FAN EDITOR EVER

BETTER THAN LUCAS

 

[Blue Ninja]

That's asking people why they hate the prequels.

I'm asking people to focus on what the prequels did right and the things they legitimately loved.

Only one thing comes to mind.

The space battle at the start of Revenge of the Sith. Shit was mindblowing.

 

[brandonh83]

the entire first movie is just 10 min of flashbacks, hahaha

Yeahhh, whew. People are entitled to their opinions I guess

 

[Jumeira]

Theres lots of great Star wars in the prequels, to say it isn't while in the same breath proclaiming the originals are fine pieces of film is being dishonest.

Story was superior in the original of course, but I did love the following from prequels

- Pod race, thrilling stuff
- John Williams soundtrack
- Qui Gon
- Darth Maul, best villian since Darth Vader
- Light saber battles
- Yoda/Dooku fight
- Ewan as Obi (Amazingly cast)
- Anakin handling of his mothers death
- Padme/Anakin looking at each other from Jedi temple to his home
- Dooku executed by Anakin
- Palatine teasing of the Dark side with Anakin
- Sidious reveal to order 66
- Obi/Anakin fight
- Darth Vader operating table and assembly
- Darth becoming Emperors apprentice


Lots of highlights, and some classic, memorable moments. I can see why people resent parts of it, but I can't agree with those that say its all bad. It's not. EP 3 is one of the best SW movies in the saga. Ive witnessed non star wars fans turn into fans because of ep3.

 

[Einchy]

That doesn't sound like a story/pacing disaster at all.

Someone linked a fan edit a while back that was on Vimeo that was supposed to be great. It starts off with Obi-wan running into that shield thing then Qui-Gon Jinn is murdered. Obi-wan fights and beats Darth Maul and then it goes into Episode 2.

It was one of the weirdest edits I have ever seen.

 

[DarkHeartedKill]

Spoiler

One of the worst and out of place lines in cinema history

Honestly, who kills younglings?!

The only things I enjoyed about the prequels was the soundtrack. And if course Darth Maul, even though they gave him a bitch death.

 

[Bizazedo]

People need to understand that liking something doesn't automatically make it great. It just means you like it.

Sometimes, people like bad things.