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The Wii was such a good console.
- Thread starter Jonneh3003
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Well.... Pfff... I don't know, i liked Cave and bough several games from them on 360 with pleasure but after a while they seemed to do always the same kind of shmup.
Of course, the Wii can't compete (Mainly because of the XBLA to be honest).... But i still really liked Shikigami No Shiro III on the system... Which is another game people tend to forget, they even had those shmup from the Dreamcast that i still need to play ! They seems cools !
Baron_Calamity
Member
I liked the Wii a lot in the early days but about mid way through its life, things took a turn.
ninjablade
Banned
Uh what? You couldnt get gtav and red dead on ps2/gc they would be a totally different experiance, witcher 3 and battlefront, and even cod, better hardware can make games better, and for the most part it does, of course not all games take advantage of this.
Actually like WiiU you need an adapter if you want to use a rj45 cable lol, literally the opposite of the 360.
Wii was thought in a way to stop being in the way so it cut cords everywhere it could.
If they could have made the chucks wireless with the wiimote without downsides they would have done it even.
This is a just a difference of values.
Wii doesn't emphasize power like ps3/360 and even WiiU.
Being weaker is not a lack of feature, it is a distinctive change in values.
For people (like me) who couldn't give any less of a shit about how close we get to photorealism, power and polycount are not high on the priority list.
It's nice to have but in no way does it make for better games.
Most of the games I've played on the HD twins controlled badly (especially compared to their Wii counterparts despite bieng lower priorities games) and weren't that enjoyable.
For all the accolades Uncharted gets, it usually controls like a standard 3rd party shooter on these consoles. that may not bother you but it's one of the reason why some of us look back more fondly on our Wiis than on our ps3s.
The problem with Wii is that I don't think there's a way to not make it look like putrid shit on an HD tv :/
For Wii games, I'd recommend the Galaxy games, Zelda Tp on GC (hey bc is there after all), Metroid Prime trilogy but you're better served getting that on WiiU(less expensive to get).
the Trauma center games are awesome on it, endless ocean if you prefer more contemplative games.
Actually if you gave the type of games you like, it would be easier.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
This is straight up the smartest shit I've seen you say
Would've been amazing if I were 5 or 6 when it debuted and I were introduced to characters and franchises with Twilight Princess and Mario Galaxy through those magical, beautiful games, and I didn't mind the tripping in Smash Bros. Brawl because I didn't know any better, and I genuinely enjoyed Metroid Other M as a competent, unique action-adventure game because I didn't know Samus Aran had once been self-sufficient and badass. Skyward Sword would've been a fun release and I wouldn't've minded its imprecision with my patient, doe-eyed wonder at playing AS the swordsman, not knowing it had once been a very precise, demanding series, where you didn't start with 6 hearts because the game knew how bad the controls were and didn't want your death to be due to the lacking controls.
Unfortunately, I was 20 when the Wii launched.
Unfortunately, I was 20 when the Wii launched.
Seriously that's doesn't even begin to explain why Other M was so bad.
And Zelda haven't been demanding since the NES era,
heck Skyward Sword is a more demanding game than Twilight Princess or Wind Waker regardless of controls that's for sure.
Underrated
Member
I agree, the Wii was a really good system. I really liked the Wii remote controls except for some games. It was also good to turn your non-gamer friends into gamers.
SlavetodaBOX
Member
It's worth putting it on a HD-TV, look for a component cable to hook it up and it will amaze you how good 480p can look. As far as games go with the staples, Zelda, Mario and my personal favorite "Metroid Trilogy."
So the Wii only had 5 games?
LegendofLex
Member
To be fair, compared to TP enemies in SS tend to do more damage (full- or half-heart vs quarter-heart), so that six hearts doesn't really go quite as far as the three starting ones from TP.
It had a ton of games. I'll concede that. Most of them are called shovelware.
For the dominant platform of last gen, it only has 7 original titles with a Metascore of 90 or above. I listed 5 of them in my post.
If you still had a twinkle in your eye and no carpal tunnel in your wrist, the Wii was great. I'll admit that.
Shikamaru Ninja
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Did the Wii have some good games? Yes. Was the Wii a good console? Hell no.
Most of the PS2 and PS1 libraries are shovelware, but I don't see anyone declaring those consoles garbage because of that.
So only games with a Metascore of 90 or above count?
Edit: Also, Other M certainly does not have a 90+ Metascore.
Edit 2: And the Wii has 14 90+ games on Metacritic. Why don't multiplatform games count? Do you hold non-Nintendo consoles to the same standard? The Xbox 360 only has 6 exclusive 90+ games, and they're all Halo, Gears, and Forza. What's your opinion on that?
"If you're not as old and experienced as I am, you might have enjoyed the Wii."
That's more than a little bit condescending.
VendettaRed07
Member
The console just doesn't sit right with me at all. I enjoyed the smaller titles like zach and wiki and others but I was let down by so many of the major titles. And I just didn't like the overall interface or experience playing games on the system.
It had some good ideas but it was for me, overall the worst time to be a Nintendo fan in my life.
This year sucks as well.. But I've enjoyed the last three years of WiiU significantly more than the 6 years with the Wii. WiiU has been better for me in almost every way. Nintendo is still backwards in a lot of ways with how the WiiU is handled but it atleast offers a more competitive "experience" this time in regards towards its competitors. I've had more fun playing online with splatoon, smash and Mario kart than anything on my ps4.. And the games look great on my TV, even if the system itself isn't nearly as powerful as the ps4 I don't feel like it matters really.
With last gen, ms and Sony where doing all this great stuff. Where as the Wii, I was buying games new for $50 that felt and looked ancient in comparison a vast majority of the time.
Even when I was having fun all I could think about was how much better the games would be if the hardware was a little better and the online functioned at all
It had some good ideas but it was for me, overall the worst time to be a Nintendo fan in my life.
This year sucks as well.. But I've enjoyed the last three years of WiiU significantly more than the 6 years with the Wii. WiiU has been better for me in almost every way. Nintendo is still backwards in a lot of ways with how the WiiU is handled but it atleast offers a more competitive "experience" this time in regards towards its competitors. I've had more fun playing online with splatoon, smash and Mario kart than anything on my ps4.. And the games look great on my TV, even if the system itself isn't nearly as powerful as the ps4 I don't feel like it matters really.
With last gen, ms and Sony where doing all this great stuff. Where as the Wii, I was buying games new for $50 that felt and looked ancient in comparison a vast majority of the time.
Even when I was having fun all I could think about was how much better the games would be if the hardware was a little better and the online functioned at all
The Virtual Console was pretty damn impressive, not only for having the obvious hits, but also a lot of obscure and niche titles that never got their due back in the day. I highly doubt most of us were playing stuff like MUSHA, Sin and Punishment, Legend of the Mystical Ninja, Monster World IV (in English!), Alien Soldier, the Turbo Grafx, the Neo Geo, etc back in the day...
One of my biggest disappointments with Nintendo is the way they are handling the VC. It started pretty strong, but slowly petered out. The small internal SD card meant you couldn't download a lot of games and would have to constantly delete and shuffle back and forth to the Wii Shop to make room. Nintendo finally offered a way to boot VC games off of the external SD card, but it was extremely slow as it required the game to be copied from the external SD to a buffer space on the internal SD, and you were still only allowed to have 40 pages of channels (which, if you bought every game on the VC, and some WiiWare, you'd probably run out of room). Then, the 3DS was released with its own VC, separate from the Wii VC, and the Wii U had yet its own VC, with a differing library of games (though you can use the system's special "Wii mode" and transfer your old Wii games to use on there). I'm hoping that they eventually straighten this out, since retro game fever is at an all-time high and Nintendo is uniquely poised to dominate with this.
Also, nobody ever mentions Cubello in this thread
Such a fun little puzzler that used the IR sensor to great aplomb. WiiWare had some hidden gems on it like this and the Rebirth titles.PassiveObserver
Member
I bought a Wii just this year and I'm kinda blown away at how many games I want to play. As someone who didn't own the console at the time, suffering the droughts in realtime, the Wii has a massively impressive library.
Please don't do this. You're telling me what "critics" think. But what do you think? Metacritic and Gamerankings won't tell you the real story. Metacritic told me Mass Effect 2 (just an example) was a great game, but after completing it I found it to be okay-ish at best. Nothing wrong with that, but this tells me that "scores" are a very lazy form of discussing or dismissing a console's library.
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Honestly, thinking back about last gen (I've been playing some PS3 exclusive titles I've missed) and all the games I've played on Wii, PC and PS3... with every passing year I'm appreciating the Wii more and more. Looking at my library of last gen's "tripple A" titles I currently own and looking back at my collection of 67 Wii games it's astounding at how diverse it's games were. Wouldn't want to miss it for the world.
Just for the sake of discussion, I'll post my list of Wii games;
Wii Sports
The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess
Excite Truck
Metroid Prime 3 Corruption
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Paper Mario
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Disaster Day of Crisis
NPC! Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Punch-Out!!
Sin & Punishment Successor to the Skies
Kirby's Epic Yarn
Donkey Kong Country Returns
Metroid Other M
Xenoblade Chronicles
The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword
The Last Story
As for third party...
Alone in the Dark
Boom Blox
A Boy and his Blob
Bully Scholarship Edition
De Blob
Dead Rising: Chop Till' You Drop
Dead Space Extraction
Dragonball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 2
Epic Mickey
Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon
Final Fantasy The Crystal Chronicles The Crystal Bearers
Ghost Squad
Ghostbusters: the Videogame
Goldeneye 007
Guilty Gear XX Accent Core
Guitar Hero World Tour
Guitar Hero Metallica
Guitar Hero 5
The House of the Dead Overkill
Klonoa
Lego Batman
MadWorld
Monster Hunter Tri
No More Heroes
No More Heroes 2 Desperate Struggle
Opoona
Okami
Prince of Persia the Forgotten Sands
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 Playmaker
Project Zero II Wii Edition
Rabbids Go Home
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Red Steel
Red Steel 2
Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition
Resident Evil the Umbrella Chronicles
Resident Evil the Darkside Chronicles
Rockstar Presents Table Tennis
Silent Hill Shattered Memories
Sonic and the Secret Rings
Spider-Man Shattered Dimenions
SSX Blur
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
Tatsunoko vs. Capcom All-Stars
Trauma Center: New Blood
We Love Golf!
Zack and Wiki: Quest for Barbados' Treasure
Oh great list wars! No man, look; out of this enormous list of games I only bolded four games. Those are the only four which I didn't care for and I somewhat regret it that I got those games. I found Red Steel way too unpolished, Sonic to be terrible after two worlds. Alone in the Dark had my morbid curiousity because the SE was only € 8 (hehe) and Crystal Bearers... yeah still don't know what happened there. They could have made a great action adventure game set in the FF world. Shame.
Everything else on the list... varies from good to fantastic. They might not have enormous budgets, but games like Zack and Wiki or House of the Dead Overkill still are one my favourite games of the past genereation. Or Silent Hill. Tatsunoko vs. Capcom. Hell, I forgot that I own Trauma Center New Blood. That's one great game. Wii's library is weird, surprising, diverse and doesn't always the recognition it absolutely deserves.
lol fuck this shit
gamecube was always rad, wii always sucked (well actually when brawl disappointed it was all downhill from there, 2007 had galaxy), and I'll admit the wii u was booty during launch year but as soon as pikmin 3, 3d world and wonderful 101 dropped it was hit after hit on that thing. by the end of 2014 I knew it had a great library that I will be coming back to for years to come... unlike the wii.
Jonneh3003
Banned
I'm seeing a lot of people in this thread who dislike the Wii and don't seem to have really given it a chance. Lots of "waggle" and "shovelware" comments when in actual fact there are dozens of fantastic Wii games that don't even use waggle controls. I made an improvised list of games in the OP that many people have built upon in replies. There's a lot of people here who have 30+ games that love the system and then those that hate it seem to have less than 5. I guess it's easy to dislike an underpowered popular system but all I see when I look at the way is a bunch of awesome games.
I also loved the PS3 and Xbox 360 in their own right. 360 had a bunch of awesome shmups, best place for multiplatform games and Halo mothertrucking 3. PS3 had some great JRPGs, brilliant niche games that we wouldn't see on 360 and some pretty great first party stuff. Power is generally irrelevent when we judge a system on their games.
I also loved the PS3 and Xbox 360 in their own right. 360 had a bunch of awesome shmups, best place for multiplatform games and Halo mothertrucking 3. PS3 had some great JRPGs, brilliant niche games that we wouldn't see on 360 and some pretty great first party stuff. Power is generally irrelevent when we judge a system on their games.
Benzychenz
Member
Uhhh Skyward Sword starts you with 6 hearts because they changed the combat so that even a simple bat takes off a full heart rather than the 1/4 heart bullshit that made TP so laughably easy (I did a 3 heart run in TP and burnt my shield as soon as I could and still found it too easy...).
SS is my second favourite Zelda behind OoT.
gingerbeardman
Member
Amen, way too little EXCITE in the OP.
Wii is without doubt my favourite home console and the one I got the most fun out of, from SNES to today.
Bluekaveli
Member
Well shit. I guess Sega just couldn't get it right at the beginning of the generation.
The virtua tennis game was good though. Demo wise.
Gotdatmoney
Member
I think the Wii's library is way better than the WiiU's. I love my WiiU too.
Jonneh3003
Banned
If it redeems me at all I imported Excitebots from America as it didn't get a PAL release.
I think the Gamecube library is better than both of them combined. I don't think WiiU games are amazing at all, if anything, I thought they were worse than the Wii versions of their series. Definitely not buying an NX at launch.
AppleBlade
Member
The Wii was a very memorable experience and is a system I will always vividly remember. I remember launch day like it was yesterday. I don't remember the day I purchased a PS 3 or 360 at all. I will never forget playing Wii Sports with the whole family. Most of my favorite games last gen were PS3/360 but nothing made me feel like a giddy kid like the Wii.
MrSaturn99
Member
That's super fascinating! Thank you.
Still can't decide which is better: Pikmin 2 or 3...and I'm replaying the second one right now!
The wii had some bad years. I remember losing interest after Brawl hit in 2008, and not really playing it a lot afterwards.
But holy hell was 2010 an epic year for Wii,
Red Steel 2, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Sin and Punishment 2, Monster Hunter Tri, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Kirby Epic Yarn, Metroid Other M, and 3rd party early exclusives like Goldeneye, Epic Mickey, and NBA Jam.
But holy hell was 2010 an epic year for Wii,
Red Steel 2, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Sin and Punishment 2, Monster Hunter Tri, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Kirby Epic Yarn, Metroid Other M, and 3rd party early exclusives like Goldeneye, Epic Mickey, and NBA Jam.
gingerbeardman
Member
Props. Me, too!
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I owned one and played only Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3 and Skyward Sword. Started Mario Galaxy but never finished.
Three games in its lifetime. Three.
It was the worst ever. No HD made it horrible for me.
Three games in its lifetime. Three.
It was the worst ever. No HD made it horrible for me.
NiGHTS JoD is a game with uneven qualities hurt by unnecessary padding segments (with different degree of quality) and story elements (not every cutscene is skippable argh).
The core NiGHTS gameplay (flying sections and bosses) are quite good.
The good news is once beat the padding sections you can choose to never replay them again and just replay the best parts for score attack.
Yes, they've changed the score system but it's not bad per se, it's just different.
I agree that the game should have been polished more.
Fans of the original game should give the sequel a chance at least.
Not a good console in my eyes. Twilight Princess was better on the GameCube. Brawl with its floaty physics and tripping was bad enough to push me back to Melee.
The two exclusives that were worth playing were Skyward Sword, which had a list of faults, and House of the Dead Returns.
No other light-gun game I played on the Wii had the ability to retain controller accuracy like HotD:R. I played the game with reticules disabled and was able to consistently land headshots from across the living room. Overkill wasn't as consistent. RE was no where close. I even purchased a Playstation Move set with the Sharpshooter and nearly every lightgun game available, but Move was miles below the Wiimote in precision and responsiveness.
HotD:Returns was the closest thing to having a lightgun arcade in my living room, and it almost makes me want to hook up a IR bar to my entertainment center just so I can play it via the WiiU.
The two exclusives that were worth playing were Skyward Sword, which had a list of faults, and House of the Dead Returns.
No other light-gun game I played on the Wii had the ability to retain controller accuracy like HotD:R. I played the game with reticules disabled and was able to consistently land headshots from across the living room. Overkill wasn't as consistent. RE was no where close. I even purchased a Playstation Move set with the Sharpshooter and nearly every lightgun game available, but Move was miles below the Wiimote in precision and responsiveness.
HotD:Returns was the closest thing to having a lightgun arcade in my living room, and it almost makes me want to hook up a IR bar to my entertainment center just so I can play it via the WiiU.
Boy Wander
Member
Lighten up and play House of the Dead Overkill. Then come back and tell me it's not awesome
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I meant to respond to this topic earlier, but I knew when the Wii was coming to a close those who like niche quirky but interesting & unique titles would remember it fondly. Wii had a lot of shovelware, but between that there were legitimately great but often overlooked games, it being a lot cheaper to develop for and a bigger potential audience let more creative and different games come into existence.
The Real Napsta
Member
Yeah, that was a strange omission considering the OXB and PS2 could output 1080i