You can talk shit all you want but its been like 2 generations since there was another valkyrie profile game.This looks nothing like Silmeria!
That game for the PS2 looks better than this! The locations at least surely look better!
You can talk shit all you want but its been like 2 generations since there was another valkyrie profile game.This looks nothing like Silmeria!
That game for the PS2 looks better than this! The locations at least surely look better!
Oh boy, a friend of mine pointed something that I missed.
"Is this another person of color in a Nordic setting again?"
Who's developing this?
Ah, no wonder why it had a weird cell shaded outlines.Quite a new dev studio afaik
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No one is complaining about Forspoken. It isn't a hard concept.Why are yall like this?
Was hoping we'd go back to this route. Ah, well I'll give it a try anyway.
No one is complaining about Forspoken. It isn't a hard concept.
Wouldn't people be pissed if the next Black Panther was white? Spoiler, they were by a "What if" sketch on twitter.
LOTR amazon series another great example.
Why make what is likely Hrist a person of color?
We know why, to avoid a backlash claiming that the game was "too white". Remember how much Days Gone was criticized by the "journos" by being "too straight/white"?
We all know what you've been through because of the same mob, (if you're Colin) and I appreciate your work, but there is no need to be on the high horse on this one.
Seen enough videos to know that tokenism isn't exactly something to be cherished or supported though I think the poster above did a better job addressing the question.Why are yall like this?
It was turn based combo combat. That Indivisible game pretty much copied the combat from VP.
Seriously. Two eyes, two ears, one nose, one mouth - all symmetrical. Uh.... predictable!Seeing the main character again, she's look really generic
Seriously. Two eyes, two ears, one nose, one mouth - all symmetrical. Uh.... predictable!
Such as?I mean yeah, there's nothing of note to say about her, she's a... human with armor.
You'd hope that there would be more to say about the main character of an rpg.
No one is complaining about Forspoken. It isn't a hard concept.
Wouldn't people be pissed if the next Black Panther was white? Spoiler, they were by a "What if" sketch on twitter.
LOTR amazon series another great example.
Such as?
How so?But now that you mention it yes, she is even more generic than the average Final Fantasy protagonist.
I haven't played it yet but Tales of Arise was very well-received and there has been a ton of great turn based JRPG's.
lol such a remaster would be done by a outsourced team for remasters and ports like Square normally does, for them that isn't even a "rather" situation as you got a Kingdom Hearts Collection and you got Kingdom Hearts 3, that wasn't a rather for them and I don't believe its ever been something like that.Would rather have a remaster of Profile 1 and 2.
lol as soon as I hear that shit like "as a fan of" annnnnnnnd let me guess, the armor is the wrong shade or? Most of the games don't even look like they are in the same generation, so I'd say this is literally in the ballpark of how the series was even back then lol So I never cared that Valkyrie Profile 2 on PS2 looked like the best looking PS1 game ported lol, it was a great game, so I'm not shocked that this looks like a gen behind. The series generally did that to my memory.As a fan of Valkyrie Profile series, I feel like th
How so?
Agreed. If someone is still crying about this shit now, there is no hope for them. They are just crying for fanfiction at this point.
Octopath moves almost 3 million units (likely past that mind you)
Tales Arise on launch, on LAUNCH WINDOW moves 1.5 million units
Dragon Quest XI moves around 7 million units
Persona 5 moves 5 million units
Yakuza 7 moved around 2.8 million making it the best selling Yakuza title
I don't know if this can be explained any fucking clearer, if something like this is not people wanting JRPGs, I don't know what the fuck to tell some people at this point. They are just crying for fanfiction....nothing is wrong with the genre, we are seeing them received better then they have been in generations. The genre will be fine.
In terms of Valkyrie Elysium, I haven't played the IP in ages, but see nothing wrong with this title, would need to see more.
lol such a remaster would be done by a outsourced team for remasters and ports like Square normally does, for them that isn't even a "rather" situation as you got a Kingdom Hearts Collection and you got Kingdom Hearts 3, that wasn't a rather for them and I don't believe its ever been something like that.
lol as soon as I hear that shit like "as a fan of" annnnnnnnd let me guess, the armor is the wrong shade or? Most of the games don't even look like they are in the same generation, so I'd say this is literally in the ballpark of how the series was even back then lol So I never cared that Valkyrie Profile 2 on PS2 looked like the best looking PS1 game ported lol, it was a great game, so I'm not shocked that this looks like a gen behind. The series generally did that to my memory.
So looks cheap on PS1? Looks like a last gen game? Well....has the series not always been that way? I enjoyed them regardless and won't over look what could be a great jrpg based on "looks". If that was the case i'd literally miss out on this whole series as the games rarely look like their current gen counterparts. =)
For me it's not a matter of graphics being up to date.
The game just looks visually bad, I wouldn't mind if it literally looked like a ps2 game if it actually had a nice art style. The combat also just has shown nothing to make me think it's going to be good. So right now the name is the only thing that it has going for it.
These graphics look 100x more appealing despite being much less technically demanding. Nobody would be complaining if they made a new game like this. Instead they made a low budget Nier Automata wannabe.
You know if you just focus on the hair, there is a ton of variety here.Such as?
So the protagonist of this game having silver hair is what makes her super generic?You know if you just focus on the hair, there is a ton of variety here.
So the protagonist of this game having silver hair is what makes her super generic?
I honestly don't know and sorta don't care because I am not bothered by this game in any way. I just thought my comment was funny. May I slink away in quiet shame now?So the protagonist of this game having silver hair is what makes her super generic?
I think anime doesn’t translate into 3D very well, most of the time. It loses so much style and personality. Especially when it’s low budget 3D models, it always looks like shit. I’d take well animated + expressive sprites over b-tier 3D models any day.I tell ya, when franchises go deeper and into full 3D graphics it's like they lose touch on what made a series great in the first place.
Same for Suikoden
Same for Grandia
Same for Breath of Fire
I bought Yakuza 7 but I'm struggling to enjoy the battle system. The game is so damn easy. Does it get harder later into the game? I recently had the girl join my party. Story started out very strong I'll give it thatPoint is SE still makes them but only for Switch/PC. Bravely Default 2 is a great take on the FF job system.
I definitely recommend Yakuza 7 too. Game is amazing and the best AAA take on a turn based RPG since dq11 to me.
So the protagonist of this game having silver hair is what makes her super generic?
I bought Yakuza 7 but I'm struggling to enjoy the battle system. The game is so damn easy. Does it get harder later into the game? I recently had the girl join my party. Story started out very strong I'll give it that
Agreed. If someone is still crying about this shit now, there is no hope for them. They are just crying for fanfiction at this point.
Octopath moves almost 3 million units (likely past that mind you)
Tales Arise on launch, on LAUNCH WINDOW moves 1.5 million units
Dragon Quest XI moves around 7 million units
Persona 5 moves 5 million units
Yakuza 7 moved around 2.8 million making it the best selling Yakuza title
I don't know if this can be explained any fucking clearer, if something like this is not people wanting JRPGs, I don't know what the fuck to tell some people at this point. They are just crying for fanfiction....nothing is wrong with the genre, we are seeing them received better then they have been in generations. The genre will be fine.
In terms of Valkyrie Elysium, I haven't played the IP in ages, but see nothing wrong with this title, would need to see more.
lol such a remaster would be done by a outsourced team for remasters and ports like Square normally does, for them that isn't even a "rather" situation as you got a Kingdom Hearts Collection and you got Kingdom Hearts 3, that wasn't a rather for them and I don't believe its ever been something like that.
lol as soon as I hear that shit like "as a fan of" annnnnnnnd let me guess, the armor is the wrong shade or? Most of the games don't even look like they are in the same generation, so I'd say this is literally in the ballpark of how the series was even back then lol So I never cared that Valkyrie Profile 2 on PS2 looked like the best looking PS1 game ported lol, it was a great game, so I'm not shocked that this looks like a gen behind. The series generally did that to my memory.
So looks cheap on PS1? Looks like a last gen game? Well....has the series not always been that way? I enjoyed them regardless and won't over look what could be a great jrpg based on "looks". If that was the case i'd literally miss out on this whole series as the games rarely look like their current gen counterparts. =)
lol as soon as I hear that shit like "as a fan of" annnnnnnnd let me guess, the armor is the wrong shade or? Most of the games don't even look like they are in the same generation, so I'd say this is literally in the ballpark of how the series was even back then lol So I never cared that Valkyrie Profile 2 on PS2 looked like the best looking PS1 game ported lol, it was a great game, so I'm not shocked that this looks like a gen behind. The series generally did that to my memory.
So looks cheap on PS1? Looks like a last gen game? Well....has the series not always been that way? I enjoyed them regardless and won't over look what could be a great jrpg based on "looks". If that was the case i'd literally miss out on this whole series as the games rarely look like their current gen counterparts. =)
Hell, let's have an anime world that is inspired by African myths and put white guys on it. Because why not?This game isn't set in a fictional city that is defined by having only black people.
It's not set in a historically accurate Europe and even if it were, black characters would still exist in it.
It's an anime world (that has already had other dark-skinned characters) which is inspired by Norse mythology. Trying to pretend there is some reason it should have black characters is just silly.
That said, I'm not a fan of race swapping of existing characters if this is Hirst but if it's a total reboot whatever.
I didn't say anything about FInal Fantasy and certainly wasn't thinking of it as a standard to strive for...
But now that you mention it yes, she is even more generic than the average Final Fantasy protagonist.
I said likely Hrist, but I'm interested on your explanation of how she's not Hrist.I was wiser not to comment on this from the first page, but seeing as people are still delving on it...
That is not Hirst.
And the main Valkyria also "don't look like how a supposed mythological nordic woman should look like", she is very obviously an japanese woman with dyed hair, but I don't see people complaining about her.
Hell, let's have an anime world that is inspired by African myths and put white guys on it. Because why not?
See how moronic it sounds?
Seen enough videos to know that tokenism isn't exactly something to be cherished or supported though I think the poster above did a better job addressing the question.
Wouldn't people be pissed if the next Black Panther was white? Spoiler, they were by a "What if" sketch on twitter.
LOTR amazon series another great example.
You sound very trigged, cool down your nerves. Won't gonna waste my time reading a 2 essay rant because you didn't agree.
I greatly disagree, it literally looked like it was a generation behind.Silmeria was among the best looking games on PS2
I agree and I like the game, its a great title.....clearly it didn't look like its 3D peers on PS1 and looked like SNES game. So I agree its one of the best looking 2D games on that system as its a personal favorite of mine.While Profile was one the best looking 2D games on PS1
Ah the stereotypical non argument that leads to a dismissal.Tokenism. Hilarious that this handwringing and struggling to understand never occurs when another blonde haired, blue eyed cad is slapped on the cover of a game. No one ever second guesses the motives in that situation.
You can make all the arguments you want, but please refrain from outright lying.Not to mention Norse myth contains characters who are known for colored skin.
You can make all the arguments you want, but please refrain from outright lying.
To be fair Silmeria despite her doll face does have better hair and isn't a dirty brown like this Valkyries hair is. However brown is still brown even if Silmeria is somewhere between light brown and blonde.You can talk shit all you want but its been like 2 generations since there was another valkyrie profile game.
Do you have any sources for your claim of norse gods that are described as having non-white skin in norse myth?Never did and wouldn't dream of it.
Do you have any sources for your claim of norse gods that are described as having non-white skin in norse myth?
Edit: Not to derail the thread (apparently, there's a lot of danger in scientific/factual topics) - I don't care how the game looks as long as it plays well. And I don't think we've seen enough of it to have any idea of that.
What do you mean "the story of Dionysus" as if there's only one that was widely adopted by all ancient Greeks? The Dionysiaca epic you may be referring to here is no more true to the lost in time before recorded history origins of those Greek gods/characters than this video game is to the Norse stuff. It's much later fan fiction written (centuries after Alexander the Great's Indian campaign for example and while the creator expanded on earlier legends and accounts, Dionysus has been referenced since at least ~1300 BC yet I don't believe India was mentioned in relation to him until ~300 BC and it could still be considered fiction like other written accounts instead of religious text - I also don't believe the mycenaeans who first worshipped him ever made contact with India, their trade went as far as Egypt, I think the first accounts of Greece learning of India are at around 500 BC so obviously it can't be part of any Greek deity's original, well, origin) for entertainment rather than a religious text of the era discussing his "true" origins and what would be considered real in previous centuries as this one was actually written just as christianity was taking over and even its creator potentially converted. Like any old religion it was shaped within close communities (with often vast differences by location within the same eventual nation or country given it wasn't really a religion in the same way we consider it nowadays) before recorded history and before major interactions with different races and thus their gods and their people were originally depicted in the image of the people who created them, even if they did obviously acknowledge the existence of other races as time went on and people traveled, traded, invaded, interacted with each other. Of course I'm not saying there shouldn't be other races in this game (which much like the previous games is in no way trying to be authentic to its source material but create its own version), obviously what I'm saying backs up the viability of such as like that poem this video game is fiction, but this is still wrong.The story of Dionysus involves him interacting with Indians who refused to drink wine. Norse myth also includes normal humans in the story.
They don't take place in a world where literally everyone is nordic, they take place in the real world.
Asura's Wrath is blend with religion and science fiction quite different that what we have with Valkyrie Profile.No, I've seen it done and love the results. Using something from a black culture doesn't mean every character involved needs to be black. " do you see how stupid that sound"? Not to mention Norse myth contains characters who are known for colored skin. If a cartoon about some white kid getting an amulet that gave them the powers of anansi I'd be laughing at anyone complaining.
No, every character in Asura's wrath didn't need to be indian. The white characters in Black Pather were just fine too.
And again, this is a series that already contains black characters who were there because the characters just thought they looked nice.
Wow, such a way to validate your argument. It almost feels like it's not good enough to hold on it's on.Again, your complaints are just idiotic.
Maybe, just maybe, because it's stated in the source material?Tokenism. Hilarious that this handwringing and struggling to understand never occurs when another blonde haired, blue eyed cad is slapped on the cover of a game. No one ever second guesses the motives in that situation.
It's Norse Mythology, rich enough? They all looked pretty white to me.What is the rich lore behind this that says a Valkyrie can't be non-White?