LordOfChaos
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Aren't they still enjoying their best xbox launch ever, regardless of how well the PS4 is doing?
Aren't they still enjoying their best xbox launch ever, regardless of how well the PS4 is doing?
Exactly this, should have been first post. I would have thought having 450$ and 400$ bundles in some cases with Titanfall, their biggest game of the year would have been an eye opener. 3 day always online DRM change was pretty much the beginning, you can't get earlier than thatThey've been reacting since Sony's E3 conference.
All they need is a good price cut and they are back in the race. By good I mean 150 dollar price cut.
All they need is a good price cut and they are back in the race. By good I mean 150 dollar price cut.
Precisely why all the MS is loaded but Sony broke comments hold little weight and are based on a complete lack of understanding what these companies do
You guys are only equating console sales to winning or losing. Software sales is what makes the money .. As long as either company has strong software sales I doubt either could care about who has the largest user base.
Then again this is exactly what I said last gen this time when the ps3 was having a rough time.
Nintendo and MS are doomed.I dont care.
Soon but probably later.
Lol, but honestly how are they losing if the WiiU already failed?
You make it seem like MS is in this market to make tons of money, they aren't (although that would be nice for them). They're in it for control of the TV and high household penetration to push their ecosystem beyond the PC and into entertainment. Being decimated sales-wise by Sony this gen would be a huge failure for Microsoft. The Xbox division might be all about games, but MS as a company is only in this market to push their ecosystem.
Then get better competition. Sega's been replaced, & Microsoft can be replaced, too.
Yes, Microsoft needs to be replaced.
Uh not happening.They will abandon home consoles. It's not a growth market and it's hard to make money. I don't think they were very keen on even doing the Xbone.
Wow, I just realized I necrobumped this thread. I have absolutely zero ideas how I might've gotten here, but I only realize this now. It's 4am and I should really be sleeping. I'll gladly respond to any responses tomorrow given the thread isn't locked by then.
Wow never knew about MS keeping the rumble patent in court to stop the PS3 getting rumble.
This is a great reason why MS should be out of this industry really. They don't compete to make their console the best, they simply try and make the others worse, poor strategy and attitude. Seems similar to that damn parity clause they have too, not working hard to make devs want to make on their system, simply force them into making for their console now, otherwise they may never get on.
Stuff like this really makes me glad I'm not supporting MS, just sucking the joy out of the industry, so yeah they have to a lot to change, and I question whether they will.
Exactly what I said earlier. They even do constant moneyhatting with exclusives or timed exclusives (much more than either Nintendo or Sony) & have no long-term commitment towards 1st/2nd party games, save for their biggest IP's. They're the company that has the worst 1st party output, & is the company out of the three that relies too much on 3rd party games.
Exactly what I said earlier. They even do constant moneyhatting with exclusives or timed exclusives (much more than either Nintendo or Sony) & have no long-term commitment towards 1st/2nd party games, save for their biggest IP's. They're the company that has the worst 1st party output, & is the company out of the three that relies too much on 3rd party games.
Yeah, thats one of Xbox's biggest flaw with me. Lack of first party IPs. Thought they'd try changing or improving that for X1, it could have been a thing that'd get me on X1 eventually, and when creating new first party IPs, it simply takes time for it to be popular and known, so would have made sense to create these IPs asap, but seemed adding TV uses was higher on their priority list for them.
I personally don't agree that they have the worst first-party output though. Over the last two gens, I've enjoyed MS' first party offerings more than both Sony's and Nintendo's. It's purely a matter of opinion.
Ryse, Crimson Dragon, LocoCycle, Powerstar Golf, all at launch. Quantum Break rumoured to drop this year...I think they are doing alright in terms of creating new IP. Whether you like them or not, is subjective.
Of course some of you may well say the war is already over, but I think only the most ardent MS fan would claim that they are selling more than PS4...
All evidence is now pointing to PS4 pulling away? is NPD reports are accurate, surely no company as big as MS would accept being outsold, I appreciate PS3 did but Sony never had the money to rectify the situation..
I am guessing Titanfall is the big one (I read a lot of people saying it wont make a bit of difference) but we don't know that, as no one can see into the future..
If as some predict Titanfall does not produce a comeback do they go aggressive and at least price match the PS4, as surely that would be a sensible move, as at least then consumers have a straight choice..
As the moment they are the same price, MS arguably would have a good shot, sure it may not be as powerful but then they 'claim' they have the multimedia extras.
So, in summary....when do they act, or could they do the unthinkable and accept being second and just do the spin they come out with each time NPD report
I often see the idea floated that MS needs to be bumped out of the gaming business in order to make way for a new competitor. I do question what these people envision the new competitor actually being however. There seems to be the assumption that the next entrant would attempt to play the game the same way Sony does (and for some reason having two different manufacturers making a PS4 is apparently a good thing). This however seems very unlikely to me. It would take a crapload of cash to successfully enter the market today, and each of the companies I can imagine attempting, are also not going to be entering with the view of making "PlayStation" money. The thing is, MS entered the market bound by the same rules as their competitors at the time (just with a lot more cash). They've now been attempting to transition from that model towards an ecosystem. Their potential replacements would almost certainly have the same end goals (one ecosystem, every screen), however they would be approaching it from the opposite end. They would already have the ecosystem, and would be applying that to the console, rather than the other way around.
As for stuff like used games... well most of them would be far better equipped to remove that aspect of console gaming than MS ever was. Steam Machines? Already done. An Apple iBox? No GameStop dependency due to Apple Stores. Amazon FireTV? No GameStop dependency because... well... they're Amazon. Google? Less certain I guess... but I simply can't picture them relying on a physical sales model. Samsung are pretty much the only commonly cited candidate that I can picture attempting to compete directly with Sony using the currently established model, and even then I could see them simply making an Android based console along the lines on what Amazon have done.
So, I'm not seeing where all this faith in a new competitor, not bound by the legacy rules of the console market is coming from really. Maybe one of the people that have this opinion can tell me exactly how they expect to benefit from this situation?
Ryse, Crimson Dragon, LocoCycle, Powerstar Golf, all at launch. Quantum Break rumoured to drop this year...I think they are doing alright in terms of creating new IP. Whether you like them or not, is subjective.
Hmm, I guess I meant by IP I more meant as a new franchise, like Halo, Fable and Gears for example.
The examples you list, unless MS proves me wrong, I can see most of them being one offs, still better than 360's attempts at this though. Ryse seems set on a sequel if rumours are true..., other than that can't be sure of the others,
You don't have to "win" to have success. Ps4 is selling more but it's not like the bone hasn't been selling good, it's selling well. It's not a failure, so there's no reason for them to treat it like one.
Sorry. What I'm trying to say is, is that they're the worst with 1st-party studios and self-made exclusives in terms of putting out more 1st party titles.
They've already dropped the price and it hasn't even been a year. I'd say they know that the way things are going they're gonna lose (or at least come a distant second), and that was their first response.
It'll be interesting to see what they do with their first-party studios at this point. Just dropping the price clearly isn't going to save them.
To be fair it wasn't a real price cut.
Technically, no, but Microsoft can't get away with selling at the XB1's original price anymore. I'm pretty confident any official price cut will be at E3, and even then that's less than a year since release.
They've already dropped the price and it hasn't even been a year. I'd say they know that the way things are going they're gonna lose (or at least come a distant second), and that was their first response.
It'll be interesting to see what they do with their first-party studios at this point. Just dropping the price clearly isn't going to save them.
But it was a real price cut in the UK.To be fair it wasn't a real price cut.
But it was a real price cut in the UK.
This isn't even close to the gap the 360 had over the PS3. MS and the X1 selling 60% better so far at the same time. Come on guys. Nothing is lost. More is to gain from all of this. Cheaper prices and some awesome games in the future.