GamingIsDead
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It does but you will be quick to discover how poor it is at anything thing but directional swipes. No chance you will be using it to aim or as a alternate mouse anytime soon.
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It does but you will be quick to discover how poor it is at anything thing but directional swipes. No chance you will be using it to aim or as a alternate mouse anytime soon.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Is there any reason not to replace my 360 controller with this?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
DS4 tool beats the crap out of DS3 tool. And it syncs up superbly easy in Windows 8.1. Got it working wired and wireless.
OldAsUrSock
Banned
I used that mod that is on PC. I think it is called x360ce or something like that. It works great, but I only use it for arcade racers. The DS3 is better for fighters than the DS4.
atomic moth
Member
Can't you just get Xbox insignia via the thriving 360 aftermarket and stick them on your PS4 buttons?
Works as good as a 360 pad. Used a DS3 before, now I'm on DS4.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=728554
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=728554
Dr. Benton Quest
Banned
Yep. Just by USB.
Adam_Roman
Member
It works great but I wish I could delete my DS4 controller config for Steam Big Picture. That thing doesn't work for 90% of XInput games so I need to close Steam, run DS4Tool, then re-open Steam for it to work properly. I use the Touchpad when I'm watching Netflix from my laptop in bed. It's pretty convenient, but when you want to get pixel-precision it's a bit of a bitch.
abstract alien
Member
Anyone point me to the most simple solution to playing the Steam version of Mark of the Ninja with the DS4? I don't really know much about pc gaming lately, but I want to get into this game.
7DollarHagane
Banned
It is functional for basic os navigation and as a supplement to steam's big picture mode.
You can use it for both.
Coolbgdog12
Member
Works perfect in every game EXCEPT Mass Effect 1 for PC.
Anybody know what's the issue?? That game doesn't support gamepads unless you download a modified .ini file that enables 360 controller support. Now with a 360 controller this method gives you a working controller for 80% of the game(the rest for selecting weapons and abilities).
With my PS4 controller when I try Mass Effect the right stick BARELY moves when I'm zoomed in with any weapon. Plus rumble doesn't work. I don't get what's the problem.
Anybody know what's the issue?? That game doesn't support gamepads unless you download a modified .ini file that enables 360 controller support. Now with a 360 controller this method gives you a working controller for 80% of the game(the rest for selecting weapons and abilities).
With my PS4 controller when I try Mass Effect the right stick BARELY moves when I'm zoomed in with any weapon. Plus rumble doesn't work. I don't get what's the problem.
The Shadow
Member
Just bought one today specifically for PC.
My wife is on break between semesters so I installed Alice Returns on her iMac and gave/loaned her my 360 joystick to play. I loaded up MotionInJoy to use my DS3 but after some windows updates, it stopped working and my DS3 and bluetooth adapter wouldn't even register as being connected, with or without the drivers loaded. Had to manually remove MotionInJoy in order to get both to actually show up as the proper devices again which was a pain.
Decided to get a DS4 just today instead of mutz around with MotionInJoy again. I figure Sony will probably never release proper Xinput drivers for it on PC but I'll eventually be getting a PS4 at some point so I can replace it with a proper PC joystick and I'll have a second DS4 for the PS4.
In any case, I was kind of shocked when I plugged in the DS4 and it actually registered as a functional joystick (DirectXInput) out of the box. The DS3 in comparison did not, which necessitated hacked up drivers like MotionInJoy to use. I've used Xinput wrappers in the past with my OG Xbox controller so it's nothing new.
If you're already using a 360 controller and happy with it, I wouldn't replace it. Not unless you really want a PS controller and layout vs. the 360 one and don't mind messing with wrappers.
My wife is on break between semesters so I installed Alice Returns on her iMac and gave/loaned her my 360 joystick to play. I loaded up MotionInJoy to use my DS3 but after some windows updates, it stopped working and my DS3 and bluetooth adapter wouldn't even register as being connected, with or without the drivers loaded. Had to manually remove MotionInJoy in order to get both to actually show up as the proper devices again which was a pain.
Decided to get a DS4 just today instead of mutz around with MotionInJoy again. I figure Sony will probably never release proper Xinput drivers for it on PC but I'll eventually be getting a PS4 at some point so I can replace it with a proper PC joystick and I'll have a second DS4 for the PS4.
In any case, I was kind of shocked when I plugged in the DS4 and it actually registered as a functional joystick (DirectXInput) out of the box. The DS3 in comparison did not, which necessitated hacked up drivers like MotionInJoy to use. I've used Xinput wrappers in the past with my OG Xbox controller so it's nothing new.
If you're already using a 360 controller and happy with it, I wouldn't replace it. Not unless you really want a PS controller and layout vs. the 360 one and don't mind messing with wrappers.
Felix Lighter
Member
I finally went ahead and bought a DS4 and within maybe 2 minutes I connected the controller via bluetooth, installed the driver and launched the app and had it working immediately. Very happy with it so far.
cascardian
Member
The newest version is 1.1.2 further developed by electrobrains who's managed to eliminate a lot of the latency present in the previous betas by InhexSTER (massive respect and thanks to him, though!).
Download it, overwrite your previous files and enjoy. Read the thread starting from like page 80 to gain further insight into one what's being worked on. It works marvellously here.
Download it, overwrite your previous files and enjoy. Read the thread starting from like page 80 to gain further insight into one what's being worked on. It works marvellously here.
AuthenticM
Member
Alright, I bought the controller yesterday and installed the program. I played both Hammerwatch and Volgarr with it.
MAN. Hooooly shiiiiiiiit. This controller is The. Best.
MAN. Hooooly shiiiiiiiit. This controller is The. Best.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
I've been using it to play Skyrim and Fallout with a basic xinput wrapper. I don't remember its name but it is absolutely basic. It still works fantastically, even better than the DualShock 3.
Edit: It is the basic DS4Tool as posted before in this thread. I haven't updated to the newest version so my lightbar remains off and I don't have touchpad functionality.
http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-DS4-To-XInput-Wrapper
I'll expand on how fantastic it is. When using my DS3 on Skyrim, navigating the worldmap was slow and looseness of the sticks added unnecessary challenges to the game. The superior sensitivity, lack of deadzones, and tightness of the sticks on the DS4 make navigating the worldmap almost as fast as using a mouse and makes the gameplay much more reactive to your input. Also the improved triggers help immensely. I was using trigger attachments when I used my DS3 to play on the PC.
Edit: It is the basic DS4Tool as posted before in this thread. I haven't updated to the newest version so my lightbar remains off and I don't have touchpad functionality.
http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-DS4-To-XInput-Wrapper
I'll expand on how fantastic it is. When using my DS3 on Skyrim, navigating the worldmap was slow and looseness of the sticks added unnecessary challenges to the game. The superior sensitivity, lack of deadzones, and tightness of the sticks on the DS4 make navigating the worldmap almost as fast as using a mouse and makes the gameplay much more reactive to your input. Also the improved triggers help immensely. I was using trigger attachments when I used my DS3 to play on the PC.
Felix Lighter
Member
This may be a stupid question but is holding the PS button for 10 seconds the only way to turn off the controller? Big Picture Mode activates after holding it for like 5 seconds so I turn on Big Picture Mode everytime I want to turn off the controller.
MaximoffZero
Banned
Used it to play Metal Gear Rising the other night. Worked perfectly (via an XInput wrapper at least). Most of the time I forgot that I wasn't using an Xbox 360 controller.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Even if you do use the xinput wrapper it will still work fine with directinput only games. For example, I can have the wrapper running and play Star Wars: Battlefront 2 perfectly fine with the DS4 even though it is a directinput only game. You just have to map the buttons yourself first in the game's menu.
carpediemdp
Member
I used this method and works like a charm. Playing Nidhogg with a controller is so awesome!
AdawgDaFAB
Member
I see that that the Xinput Wrapper for DS3 has been updated to work with DS4. I used that a ton the past few months and love it. However, my one fault that I find is that there wasn't a way to quick turn it on and off when I want to play non-Xinput games (unless I missed something).
This one seems to be the popular choice for DS4, instead of the updated DS3 one Scarlet Crush made. Does it have the same issue?
thechristoph
Sir!
Does anyone have problems when the DS4 falls asleep and you have to wake it back up again? Like if I'm playing a game, I need to walk away for a little bit, and come back to it.. the game won't recognize the controller.
What's more, when I quit the game and load it back up again, it still won't recognize it. Even if I shut down Steam and relaunch the tool, it won't see the controller. I have to reboot the PC.
What's more, when I quit the game and load it back up again, it still won't recognize it. Even if I shut down Steam and relaunch the tool, it won't see the controller. I have to reboot the PC.
Sword Of Doom
Member
It's an awesome controller. I used to use the 360 controller but now whenever possible I use the DS4. Sooo much better IMO
It works so well that I've stopped using my k&m on my computer for FFXIV because I don't want the wrist pain. Some of the nice features of the DS4 to Xinput Wrapper:
1) Touchpad is fully useable as a trackpad (mouse pointer) and click for mouse left and right click.
2) You can change the light bar to whatever color you want (sliders from 1-255 for RGB, and any mix of the three sliders), or turn it completely off.
3) You can set the color to indicate battery life. For example if you set Blue as 100% and Red as 0%, it'll start from Blue and slowly gradually go from different shades of blue, to diff shades of purple, to eventually red as your battery drains.
4) You can boost your rumble. Default is 100% and you can make rumbles weaker or super strong using a slider
5) Also my laptop has a built in Wireless N/Bluetooth receiver and the bluetooth works perfectly.
1) Touchpad is fully useable as a trackpad (mouse pointer) and click for mouse left and right click.
2) You can change the light bar to whatever color you want (sliders from 1-255 for RGB, and any mix of the three sliders), or turn it completely off.
3) You can set the color to indicate battery life. For example if you set Blue as 100% and Red as 0%, it'll start from Blue and slowly gradually go from different shades of blue, to diff shades of purple, to eventually red as your battery drains.
4) You can boost your rumble. Default is 100% and you can make rumbles weaker or super strong using a slider
5) Also my laptop has a built in Wireless N/Bluetooth receiver and the bluetooth works perfectly.
indigo-cyclops
Member
I did a few times, but every time it screwed up my audio and I had to reinstall my drivers. So I just stopped bothering. But if it hadn't screwed things up I'd stick with it cause it's my favorite controller.
tensuke
Member
You can middle click with the touchpad, too, it's kind of finicky in my experience though, I may need to adjust a setting or something. It works great as a mouse though and I often use it to control my PC when I've got it set up. Just wish I could set the PS button to shift+tab for Steam, would be golden. Could be something like j2k would allow it, haven't tried it yet.
But yeah, DS4 is pretty much the perfect PC controller thanks to the Touchpad.
Yeah middle click is finicky for me too. I just ended up turning it off because I don't really use it. But right and left click work 100%.
Also in case anyone's wondering if there's any lag via BT, I've beaten all the extreme primals in FFXIV with it and those fights, especially Titan requires a lot of movement and quick reactions.
Yes, through USB.
thechristoph
Sir!
So nobody else has trouble when the controller goes asleep? Okay then, I'll investigate further on my end. I really hope they can overcome the issue with starting the controller with Steam running.
I was bitching to myself that the wrapper app doesn't have a "start with windows automatically" option until I realized: the startup folder! Completely forgot that thing existed.
I was bitching to myself that the wrapper app doesn't have a "start with windows automatically" option until I realized: the startup folder! Completely forgot that thing existed.
Bigbillybeef
Neo Member
I use it to play everything. It's not exactly plug and play but the wrapper is easy enough to use. Sometimes things get messed up (with exclusive mode) and you need to fix it, but it's worth it because the controller is awesome. Plus the track pad is handy for playing on the TV as many games (I'm looking at you Ubisoft) use launchers and such that need to be clicked before you can play them.
Short Version - Wrapper works perfectly.
Short Version - Wrapper works perfectly.
Freewheelin'
Member
I've been trying to use my DS4 on my Mac and it's just not working for me 
Hotline Miami for one.
Hotline Miami for one.
Tried wired but couldn't get the controller installed properly on W7.
Gave up and gone back to wireless 360.
Shame, might try a bluetooth adapter with the DS4 at some point but everyone seems tight lipped on recommendations. That said, if the DS4 won't install correctly when wired, it probably isn't going to with bluetooth either.
Gave up and gone back to wireless 360.
Shame, might try a bluetooth adapter with the DS4 at some point but everyone seems tight lipped on recommendations. That said, if the DS4 won't install correctly when wired, it probably isn't going to with bluetooth either.
Manac0r
Member
Just my personal experience but had horrible luck with DS4tool.
The driver stopped my Windows 7 machine from starting, would install, then after a reboot would freeze after login. Took me hours to find out what the culprit was. 100% something to do with the SCSI(? or similar) driver that DS4tool uses.
On my Windows 8.1 machine, the controller cannot keep a connection, might be my blutooth to blame here.
Went back to wrieless 360 pad for my laptop, and wired for my desktop.
The driver stopped my Windows 7 machine from starting, would install, then after a reboot would freeze after login. Took me hours to find out what the culprit was. 100% something to do with the SCSI(? or similar) driver that DS4tool uses.
On my Windows 8.1 machine, the controller cannot keep a connection, might be my blutooth to blame here.
Went back to wrieless 360 pad for my laptop, and wired for my desktop.
phxxBullet
Banned
Did anyone test a XBone Gamepad on PC yet?
I'm about to get a new one as mine's broken, but I'd prefer a Xbone Gamepad as the Triggers are way smoother than on the 360 one.
But if it's as complicated to use it on PC as the DS4, I'll stick to the 360
I'm about to get a new one as mine's broken, but I'd prefer a Xbone Gamepad as the Triggers are way smoother than on the 360 one.
But if it's as complicated to use it on PC as the DS4, I'll stick to the 360
There's no drivers for that controller on PC. DS4 is automatically recognized as generic gamepad, which enabled homebrew scene to create competent xinput solutions.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
I have a Bluetooth 4.0 el-cheapo micro adapter, DS4 pairs instantly, never loses connection and as soon as I tap PS button the pad is on and synced in seconds.
I've never had any problems using DS4Tool and the pad has worked great in every game I've tried.
I've never had any problems using DS4Tool and the pad has worked great in every game I've tried.
Yes. In the custom control mapping options you can change what each button does. Then you can change for example the share button to act like the F12 key and use F12 in fraps for screenshots.Can you make Fraps screenshots with Share button
But this replaces the back button from the 360 pad so you have to map 'back' to another button (e.g. the PS button since it has rarely any use on PC or use PS as a fraps key to begin with)
phxxBullet
Banned
Damn it, thanks for the info. Guess I'll go with a 360 then.
I just bought a DS4 for playing Warframe on the PC. I can see the appeal, it took a while to set up, the instructions arent exactly clear I picked the wrong ones, could'nt get them to work but whatever.
The analogs are way better than the 360s, there more accurate and smoother. Its just a whole round great controller. I hope the sort out this driver nonsense get proper ones or games start supporting it properly.
The analogs are way better than the 360s, there more accurate and smoother. Its just a whole round great controller. I hope the sort out this driver nonsense get proper ones or games start supporting it properly.