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Windows update removes features from Pro edition, disables Cortana off switch
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It's not like people said this would happen.
Oh wait.
Oh wait.
exmachina64
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Pretty sure it was there the first time, I've fresh installed a few times.
So every-time W10 boots, millions are going to have an involuntary moment of aggravation and hostility.
Can anyone think of other products whose makers are so arrogant and secure in their positions, that they wouldn't care if a portion of their customers were being systematically conditioned to hate the brand with every use.
It would be like getting spit in the face with every new cup of Starbucks coffee, or having to stick a 9v battery to your tongue every-time you started your Subaru.
Can anyone think of other products whose makers are so arrogant and secure in their positions, that they wouldn't care if a portion of their customers were being systematically conditioned to hate the brand with every use.
It would be like getting spit in the face with every new cup of Starbucks coffee, or having to stick a 9v battery to your tongue every-time you started your Subaru.
BetterWorldz
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Yep, same here.
Its quite funny because part of Nadella's mission statement for his new Microsoft was getting people to love Microsoft products, want to use them and not just use them because they have to. LOL.
Not available in some regions and you need to be logged in with your online Microsoft account for it to work.
Okay? It's still not the actual game.
It's a perfectly good reason for running win 7 and age is irrelevant for software.
For my money I'd rather keep it at Windows 8.1: It's as close to Windows 10 without being 10, it's actually pretty lean on the memory requirement,s is the most backwards compatible Windows OS, and no Aero shenanigans.
a very cute dog
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Dunno why I felt like posting this. I literally have no idea, except that I've been watching this show on a binge.
watched this shit alone at 4am in the dark
never again
TheSaddestSort
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Welp, this makes me feel that staying with my legacy software and Windows 7 was the right choice. Pretty shitty move by Microsoft, but is anyone really surprised at this point?
FrontalMonk
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The anniversary update isn't live yet, is it? If it is, can anyone tell me if the registry hacks still work for the windows consumer features? In version 1511 you can disable it by making a DWORD key named DisableWindowsConsumerFeatures set to 1 in HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\CloudContent. If you aren't able to set this in the new update and have it take, it's going to be a fucking nightmare for business settings, because that was part of the puzzle I needed at my last job just to get windows to sysprep.
Can I still block windows updates from gpedit? It just liked to come back up even in middle of playing online and totally screw me, I had zero problem with windows update in previous versions of windows but in 10, it can't tell if I'm using the connection or not and it takes my entire bandwidth too, if I could I'd entirely get rid of background intelligent service or whatever it's called but too bad you can't
B-B-Bomba!
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Is there a way to target the installation of updates for - not this shutdown - but another one?
This is the most ridiculous thing for me being new to W10 atm - I have a laptop, sometimes I really need it to actually shut down, not spend however long configuring an update before I can shove it in a bag and run.
This is the most ridiculous thing for me being new to W10 atm - I have a laptop, sometimes I really need it to actually shut down, not spend however long configuring an update before I can shove it in a bag and run.
LordRaptor
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Basically every monopoly.
How do you feel about your phone provider? electricity provider? Cable provider?
Freshmaker
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You gotta get them over that hump so that they realize that their lives have been improved that much.
Updated to Windows 10 on my 'work' desktop and I'm pretty happy with it. I chose not to upgrade on my gaming PC, because of all the upgrading woes and the stories of people losing their drivers and what not made me pretty convinced that I would be happy sticking with 7 on that machine.
Losing out on DX12 isn't enough to make me jump through the hoops to keep drivers and controllers working on a machine that I just want to turn on to play games with.
Losing out on DX12 isn't enough to make me jump through the hoops to keep drivers and controllers working on a machine that I just want to turn on to play games with.
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I am Korean.
There's some FUD. I had to update two drivers. Oh no.
TheCochese
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Got a release preview tonight, and there are some nice changes. Icons on menus, etc. Still have the option to turn off ads on the lock screen. However, I checked to defer future updates and it doesn't work. Perhaps because in am Insider.
I was able to turn off suggested apps in the start menu.
I was able to turn off suggested apps in the start menu.
You running Pro?
I just force shutdown with power button... Probably not the smartest thing to do but there doesn't seem to be an option so...
EDIT I mean, i don't even press shutdown via Windows. If the update's running, then shutting down forcefully is even less good idea.
If you're using Enterprise yes. Obviously if you're in an enterprise and using pro then this would all apply.
Fedora 24 on my brand new Thinkpad Yoga.
Edit: This is MS's new vision with the purchase of linkedin and our freelancer distopian future. Users own their accounts and sign on to organization for the duration of their contract. So pro is now no longer meant for enterprise with active directory but office 365 users.
Edit: This is MS's new vision with the purchase of linkedin and our freelancer distopian future. Users own their accounts and sign on to organization for the duration of their contract. So pro is now no longer meant for enterprise with active directory but office 365 users.
TheCochese
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Yes. On 1607.
There is none of that shit in macOS. You can disable Siri, you're not getting third party apps pushed to your computer and you're not forced to upgrade. How is Apple just as bad in that regard?
UncleSporky
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The company responsible for the shitty new OS is the same one who decided to stop updating the old one for the benefit of those cyber criminals. Either way, it's not the user's fault. MS should either stop fucking around with Windows 10 or keep updating the old un-fucked-with OS.
Frustrated_me
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You want MS to support 20 year old OSs? Dude, we need to all move on. MS already does a fantastic job supporting legacy software, probably the best in the business when it comes to legacy support, but we need to move on.
whatsinaname
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Eh. MS does a pretty decent job of updating security patches. Win 7 came out in 2009 and we get support till 2020.
HarryDemeanor
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I'm still running Windows 98 on my gaming PC. Hopefully Microsoft updates this soon. BonziBuddy is slowly taking over.
UncleSporky
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That would seem to imply that computers running old OSs aren't a gift to cyber criminals, then.
TheCochese
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Unless you are McLaren or Strategic Air Command, computers are are disposable. Upgrade your shit every once in awhile.
LordRaptor
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Its called "cortana" now
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
Don't get me wrong OP, I'm totally outraged but I would like to point out OSs drop and add features on a regular bases. I would be the first at MS's gates with a pitchfork if they dropped an "on the box" feature I depended on. I want to stress the fact I'm outraged here for others who this effects but I was hoping you could clarify if some of these were features that were turned off after update but not removed? Like lock screen... that's would be so weird if it was removed? Is a changed a better word... I mean, like feature parity but different or maybe a setting change? I want you to know OP I'm not for anti-consumer actions so I'm with you on this; I just want to understand the level of worry I should have about these changes.
You will get security patches but Windows 7 does not have the same level of security that Windows 10 does by design. That's pretty normal as they've had 6 years and another version of Windows (8) to learn from their mistakes and to adapt to the changing trends in malware. Having vulnerabilities patched is second best to those vulnerabilities not being there in the first place.
Here is Microsoft's Windows 10 security overview.
whatsinaname
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It is a little more nuanced than what I could fit into the thread title.
Windows 10 has some new features that are a little painful. Win 10 Home users could not disable these new features. But Win 10 Pro and Win 10 Enterprise could disable these features.
With this new update, only Win 10 Entrerprise can disable these features, making it that these new features are forced onto the users of Win 10 Home and Win 10 Pro.
My major concern is that Windows is looking like it is heading down the path Apple with iOS. There is one "correct way" to do things and MS is the once who decides what that "correct way" is.
It isn't a matter of outrage. It is having enough information to decide whether I want Win 10 or not. Different people have different things that might be dealbreakers.
I realise that. That is why I upgraded to Win 10 last month. I was just pointing out to UncleSporky that they do keep updating the older versions for quite a decent amount of time.
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