Why are people clinging to a 3DS release so badly? He said outright it'd be on a home console.
Well, it's obviously a bad translation because 3ds is the obvious choice for DQXI. SE is not stupid in the end.
/jk
Why are people clinging to a 3DS release so badly? He said outright it'd be on a home console.
Cause 3DS still dominates sales in Japan and everything else is on life support, cause it's a translation from Japanese to French that likely was originally something like "terebi game" that could mean home console or portable, cause a home console version doesn't mean a 3DS/PS3/PS4/WiiU multi-release isn't possible, cause it isn't actually announced yet.
Final Fantasy? On Xbox? Like, the world would explode.
Kingdom Hearts? On Xbox? Like the world would explode.
I only said it's a possibility because their other two major games are coming to Xbox.
Question ~ is it likely they forgo the PS3 port for the western release like DQH*snip*.
PS4 ain't on life support. Thing's only been out for a little more than a year with very few major games to appeal to that audience to support it. Plus you and seemingly everybody else is underestimating how big Dragon Quest is in that country. This is the same country that forbid the games to be released on weekdays because it would shut the country down (not exactly true but still a fun urban legend to tell). The games could be released as a piece of crap with a screen and it would still sell a million day one.
How am I supposed to play Dragon Quest on the go with a console?
FTFYTrust me I know a thing or two about Dragon Quest. (I'm an expert) I have around 30 games with the words "Dragon Quest" in the title. Nobody ever forbade the release of DQ.
PS4 is currently on life support. Doesn't mean it won't come back but it's doing awfully right now.
Question ~ is it likely they forgo the PS3 port for the western release like DQH
FTFY
Well seemingly unlike most people in this thread I actually like and play DQ games, and don't just care about the "strategic vision" for the purposes of console warz.
Well seemingly unlike most people in this thread I actually like and play DQ games, and don't just care about the "strategic vision" for the purposes of console warz.
I like Dragon Quest too. I assume everybody else in this thread has some fondness for the series. Otherwise they wouldn't be in this thread. Still doesn't mean people shouldn't speculate on Squares business decisions or make fun of the people who are salty because it's not coming to the platform they want.
Well I've known DQ before OG Famicom version was released (it was teased in various magazines heavily back then) and I do want SE to strategically move DQ forward already.
They're perhaps dreading the idea of a Media Create 'wall of shame'. A lot of people made very definite statements that DQ11 was only ever going to the 3DS.Why are people clinging to a 3DS release so badly? He said outright it'd be on a home console.
I like Dragon Quest too. I assume everybody else in this thread has some fondness for the series. Otherwise they wouldn't be in this thread. Still doesn't mean people shouldn't speculate on Squares business decisions or make fun of the people who are salty because it's not coming to the platform they want.
Honest question: why do people assume that bringing DQ on home console equates having a better entry / the series moving forward, and such? We have witnessed how some IPs went really bad / different than expectations last generation on home consoles (SQEX was quite expert in this, just look at FFXIII and DQX).
Final Fantasy has seen quite a significant decrease in its relevance in Japan, let´s see if the hypothetical decision of choosing way less viable systems then actually available will put Dragon Quest into the same trajectory in Japan.
Poor choice of words on my part. But my point being that I don't see how you can honestly say putting DQ on PS3/PS4 and maybe Vita over 3DS is a bad business decision, especially if Square Enix wants to inject some life into the Japanese console market, as they've said multiple times and if they potentially want to give the series another shot aboard.
Okay, here's my summarized thoughts on Square's business decisions with Dragon Quest. At this point I don't think it's going to be a PS4 exclusive. I think it's PS4/PS3/Vita. Combined those systems have a userbase of roughly 16m in Japan which isn't too far below the 3DS' 18m base. So it's not like it's going to fail in Japan.
*snip*.
Final Fantasy has seen quite a significant decrease in its relevance in Japan, let´s see if the hypothetical decision of choosing way less viable systems then actually available will put Dragon Quest into the same trajectory in Japan.
Final Fantasy has seen quite a significant decrease in its relevance in Japan, let´s see if the hypothetical decision of choosing way less viable systems then actually available will put Dragon Quest into the same trajectory in Japan.
Final Fantasy has had plenty of problems, "console of choice" really wasn't one of them, and it always bet on strong consoles and strong install bases. The decline of Final Fantasy has more to do with the issues that have plagued SE for a long time.
We've seen these issues rear their head with Bravely more recently.
I agree with Jigorath's breakdown, except on the user base front. The PS3 is an old system with atrophying software purchasing habits, so its actual active base is much smaller than what it is on paper and it don't think it has the virility to support anything close to a million in sales. Likewise for the Vita, where sales are consistent but never ground breaking. These are atrophied markets but they at least give DQXI a base on which to attempt to not flounder. PS4 only would be a death sentence irregardless of global intentions, like this they are at least hedging their bets for modest returns:
Well, some active user admitted they have never played DQ, or just one entry (DQVIII for example). One user even thought DQ was a strategy-RPG.
Honest question: why do people assume that bringing DQ on home console equates being better / moved forward, and such? We have witnessed how some IPs went really bad last generation on home consoles (SQEX was quite expert in this, just look at FFXIII and DQX).
I want it on a handheld because I love handhelds and hate playing games on consoles. As simple as that.
But I'll buy whatever console the game goes to. That's why I got a PS1 in 2001. And that is why I got a PS2 in 2005.
And whoever said DQX was a step down is wrong. It's a wonderful game from what I've played of it.
They were going completely against actual market trends in Japan as soon as they ruled out a mobile version.
They were going completely against actual market trends in Japan as soon as they ruled out a mobile version.The point is that no one should take anything for granted, going completely against actual market trends in Japan, will be an important test for DQ as an IP.
Not really.They were going completely against actual market trends in Japan as soon as they ruled out a mobile version.
You uhh, kind of agreed with me there.
Agreed but if Square wants to sell 3-4m copies of DQXI In Japan then I think they can achieve on that across PS4/PS3/Vita.
Revitalizing the console market is not done by putting a title on two dead/retired platforms. Its an attempt to spread investment to avoid risk (and shows confidence, or lack thereof). "Revitalizing the market" is lipservice, their intentions are multi-fold and the bags of money thrown at their feet ahead of time are not there to serve just as an incentive for throwing a franchise into shallow waters. The rest of their upcoming portfolio is filled with western aligned franchises. The aim is fairly obvious, I just hope it does better than Mobius.
That's a stretch but we'll see. I think PS3 will be even more dead by release, and I don't think PS4 will make up that fall.
I know, I said that I difld, lol.
They were going completely against actual market trends in Japan as soon as they ruled out a mobile version.
Trust me I know a thing or two about Dragon Quest. I have around 30 games with the words "Dragon Quest" in the title. Nobody ever forbade the release of DQ.
PS4 is currently on life support. Doesn't mean it won't come back but it's doing awfully right now.
Doing ~20k a week is awful. Ok....
Doing ~20k a week is awful. Ok....
Why do you people care so much about which platform it comes out? It's not like you are shareholders.
You really don't see where I'm coming from do you? If you honestly think that it doesn't serve in Square Enix's best interest to keep whats left of the Japanese console market above water then you're being incredibly obtuse. And it's obvious with all of their PS4 centric announcements that they intend to get Japanese consumers excited about the market again.
We don't know if it will work or not. We just don't. But its either that or just let the console market continue to slip into nothingness alongside a tonne of potential revenue and IP opportunities that have been integral parts of the company since the 80's.
And if the aim isn't to continue to try and stave off the decline of consoles at home, as well as the decline of Japanese RPG's overseas then what is it? You think Sony money hatted every PS4 game Square Enix is announcing as well as all of the other PS4 games coming from Japan? Don't be ridiculous. You sound as ridiculous as the people claiming Nintendo moneyhatted Monster Hunter, something people are swiftly shut down for insinuating.
Doing ~20k a week is awful. Ok....
Personally, I just want to see what can be done with a single player DQ on a console again. They hit such a high note with DQ8 that it's a shame that it's been over 10 years since we've seen anything like that. Plus I just don't like handheld gaming, so obviously i'd want to see it return to consoles. Those are obviously selfish reasons, but that's why i'd like to see it on consoles.
Why do you people care so much about which platform it comes out? It's not like you are shareholders.
I'm just happy to play a new offline dragon quest game, regardless of platform. (and a new rocket slime pretty please)
It would be nice if its not on 3DS, cause that screen is horrendous. But everything else a-ok.
Doing ~20k a week is awful. Ok....
As well as Matsui and Tokita. People tend to given them the shaft regarding CT.
Expect DQ11 news soon.
So you posted in both DQ threads. Hmmm
No insider on this stuff, just relating hints about DQ from the Japan Expo from people in the know.
Oh I see. But yeah, with all the news about DQ coming in the next few weeks I guess we can expect DQ XI news soon.
Watch XV, KH3, and DQXI all come out next year lol.
Watch XV, KH3, and DQXI all come out next year lol.
Doing ~20k a week is awful. Ok....
Why do you people care so much about which platform it comes out? It's not like you are shareholders.
I'm just happy to play a new offline dragon quest game, regardless of platform. (and a new rocket slime pretty please)
It would be nice if its not on 3DS, cause that screen is horrendous. But everything else a-ok.