They've said they wanted to release yearly expansions, and players rightfully thought that the expansions would be as content rich as they have been. If the expansion is full price(have little doubt it will be), we'll have officially entered the "Milk the customers dry" phase.
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New World of Warcraft Expansion reveal confirmed for Gamescom
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They've said they wanted to release yearly expansions, and players rightfully thought that the expansions would be as content rich as they have been. If the expansion is full price(have little doubt it will be), we'll have officially entered the "Milk the customers dry" phase.
fluffydelusions
Member
The thing I dislike most about WoD is the garrisons
MoP was their best and most complete expansion yet. Many just dismissed it because "Kung Fu Panda" (which is an awesome movie, so I don't see the negative there anyway).
Gemüsepizza
Member
That seems pretty scummy. Instead of trying to fix WoD with free content patches they want to release another 45€ expansion after one (1!) content patch for WoD? That's their plan to fight dwindling subscriber numbers?
Netherscourge
Banned
They must have lost a ton of subs if they are moving this up to August instead of waiting for their own Blizzcon event to announce it...
Blooddimond
Member
The problem is that there's much less content in this expansion. I wouldn't say I was casual but I'm not a hardcore raider and this expansion just made me bored at level cap. There's 3 raids total and 2 were complete at launch (1 held back to space out content). There's no reason to do dungeons after you're geared for raids either, so its either LFR or sit in Garrison for many.
IAmRandom31
Banned
why dont they just make WoW 2?
have they not made enough billions off this game yet to warrant moving onto a new one?
have they not made enough billions off this game yet to warrant moving onto a new one?
Robin64
Member
WoD is the smallest and yet most expensive expansion. They really need to impress me with this one.
November 13th 2014
November 13th 2014
Smooth Operator
Member
Yep. It's good to be honest, but imo, a monthly subscription was okay, but if i also have to buy an expansion every year ? mmh...
Why would they need to?
HarryDemeanor
Member
They had their chance to fix things but they fumbled the ball. People are tired of Draenor and want to get out. I just hope it doesn't cost $50!Gemüsepizza;173378754 said:
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Activision Earnings Call is a day before Gamescom so it will be interesting to see how much subs WoW lost.
It does kinda seem like they're just looking to get beyond WoD ASAP. And maybe it's for the best.
To be fair, they said quite a while ago they were starting parallel development teams to make expansion packs in order to try and get as close to annual as possible.
Maintenance
Member
People hyped up Draenor so much, will this time be any different?
plutoknight
Member
I would be surprised if they knock the expansion price down to 40. then again, I don't think Draenor's high price really stifled many buyers at release (I don't have numbers to back this up though).
I know, personally, Draenor's high price turned me off of my usually expansion-return to WoW.
Haven't they been doing this parallel team thing since WotLK/Cata? (which backs up the pattern of Good Xpac/Bad Xpac/Good Xpac, which means this next one should be good...?)
- A return to 4- and 5-figure life totals, and 3- and 4-figure damage totals
- The return of rock, paper, scissors class balancing
- The removal of high stamina and resilience-like stats
- Linear loot progression versus the exponential itemization we've seen for the last decade since Burning Crusade.
Every single expansion has made the game less appealing to me, and I find unofficial vanilla servers much more enjoyable than anything officially released by Acti-Blizz. There's almost nothing they could do in this expansion that would even make me consider returning.
- The return of rock, paper, scissors class balancing
- The removal of high stamina and resilience-like stats
- Linear loot progression versus the exponential itemization we've seen for the last decade since Burning Crusade.
Every single expansion has made the game less appealing to me, and I find unofficial vanilla servers much more enjoyable than anything officially released by Acti-Blizz. There's almost nothing they could do in this expansion that would even make me consider returning.
Mossybrew
Banned
This didn't become clear to me till I hit 100, as a solo player who generally just did dailies or ran dungeon finder at endgame, there just wasn't much to do. I liked the garrison at first, but then it just felt like busywork and a manufactured reason to log in each day. And the Iron Horde storyline just, meh, not very interesting.
I'm curious if there is anything Blizzard can do to get my interest again, this may be the first expansion I don't play. The game's more than ten years old, the overall fatigue is strong at this point.
Vital Tundra
Member
Are people really going to be excited for this after Warlords? That expansion ended so fast, this will be no different.
NotMyUsername
Member
With how much I disliked WoD I'm trying to think about how they could change things to really bring me back to WoW after having recently tried, and enjoyed, both Final Fantasy XIV and Guild Wars 2. I'm really not too sure. I still like the feel of the combat in WoW more than the others but since I'm not a serious raider I'm not sure what they could introduce or mix up to make me care about working towards other goals in the game. I'm sure I'll get the next expansion and hit the level cap but hopefully there's something that keeps my attention beyond that.
nkarafo
Member
Every expansion feels like a reset. Everything you built becomes pretty much useless because they figured that instead of a normal increase in stats to the new items, a huge gap is needed so your old end game items become worse than the new uncommon greenies at the same level!
Because that's why i was wasting all my time in dungeons and end game raids. Because i like all my game time being wiped away like this and start over at the same point as any newcomer, every time a new expansion comes along. So i stopped playing after BC.
Because that's why i was wasting all my time in dungeons and end game raids. Because i like all my game time being wiped away like this and start over at the same point as any newcomer, every time a new expansion comes along. So i stopped playing after BC.
Yeah because patch 5.4 and no content released for nearly 11 months before WoD was released was the dumbest thing they could do. No new content for that long and every year is better than 2 years of waiting.
It does kinda seem like they're just looking to get beyond WoD ASAP. And maybe it's for the best.
It is for the best.
Everything is LITERALLY black/brown and red all throughout their raid designs.
It is like WoD artists forgot that other color exists.
And they probably realizing right now that the garrison is killing their playerbase faster than gardening.
The facebook farmville concept destroys any incentive to play when the player realizes this are all chores, but the chores are a requirement to do them before you can set out to do anything else unless you want to forgo bonus gold/items.
fluffydelusions
Member
Well they said a while ago there new plan was for yearly xpacs
Velcro Fly
Member
Makes sense. I got an e-mail about a free week a few days ago. Want to get me hooked again so I buy the next xpac
There's more than one WoW team now.
Robin64
Member
Ehh, to be fair, if you have the best gear from the final raid of an expansion, you won't be replacing it until you hit the next expansion's level cap.
NumberThree
Member
They're gonna have to do some serious shit to get me back this time.
fluffydelusions
Member
Same here
Interfectum
Gold Member
I don't have a problem with yearly expansions. My WoW playing time consists of putting roughly 60 hours into an expansion and then unsubbing until the next one. A yearly WoW expansion fix would be nice IMO.
I think they had to announce one soon and launch even sooner. I really hope it's not coming out with the movie. My guild is already losing people because they're bored and the only reason I still play is because of the tokens.
Can they also stop cutting class skills too please? FFS, I don't even feel like a warlock anymore.
Can they also stop cutting class skills too please? FFS, I don't even feel like a warlock anymore.
plutoknight
Member
I have a feeling this'll be a quick release. Maybe not November/December quick, but maybe March next year release?
The stat squish was kind of a sham, but I doubt they are so eager to redo it just a year later.
Same boat. WoD is the culmination of a lot of "game-first-world/roleplaying-second" design that WoW's been accumulating over the years. It'll be really, really interesting to see how they pitch this expansion and what the reaction is.
The stat squish really didn't have the impact I wanted. It definitely isn't the linear scaling from 60 that I was expecting.
nkarafo
Member
Not really... level 60 epic items from Ahn Quiraj were almost as good as level 60-61 green items in BC areas. And of course the normal 5-man dungeon blue items were superior with a huge gap in stats. Any player with no guild would get his toon just a well equipped as anyone in a raid guild with full epic vanilla gear by just completing normal starting quests in BC.
It was exactly like a reset.
Robin64
Member
Also, this time, try not putting obvious reputation mounts in the cash store instead.
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Yeah, that hasn't been the case for a few expansions now.
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Yeah, that hasn't been the case for a few expansions now.
I don't think so WoD has already going to have the 14 month void of no content that other expansions have had it was just broken up with 6.2 It has gone.
WoD Launch: -> 8 months no content -> 6.2 -> 6 months no content -> 7.0.
RPGCrazied
Member
They already said they were going to continue making better modeled mounts at a regular basis.
nkarafo
Member
The same gaps exist from BC to WolK and from WoltK to Cataclysm. I don't know about MoP and Draenor though.
WoD did a lot right, but it was just so hollow. Orcs orcs orcs. I even play a fucking orc. It was way too much. Grommash is a shit character. Yrel is rad, though.
The stat squish was awesome. So happy they did that. Wonder if they are gonna have a policy of squishing the previous PREVIOUS expansion. So in this case, MoP.
But let's get back to the cool, mysterious shit WoW used to have.
The Dark Prophet sounds somewhat interesting, at least. I don't think the game needs another class, though. I'd love to have a ship in-game to customize and stuff, though.
The stat squish was awesome. So happy they did that. Wonder if they are gonna have a policy of squishing the previous PREVIOUS expansion. So in this case, MoP.
But let's get back to the cool, mysterious shit WoW used to have.
The Dark Prophet sounds somewhat interesting, at least. I don't think the game needs another class, though. I'd love to have a ship in-game to customize and stuff, though.