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NX Controller Rumor [Up5: Original was fake, and thus this is too]

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Upon researching dev kits for an earlier post, I realized that Wii U dev kits are all white. It seems kind of strange to offer developers a cosmetic choice for their dev kits. Something is off, but I'm not sure what.

I still like the design quite a bit, though. That black color looks really nice, fake or not.
 
The more I think about the possibilities of this controller the more excited I get. I realize it may not have traditional face buttons but who knows whats underneath, plus its something new and interesting that should be held/used before passing judgement. I'm keeping an open mind, there's a lot to this thing (if real!) -- lets not forget 3D with face tracking could be a very cool feature as well - an exaggerated example...

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Wow wtf? lol
 
Oh really? I wasn't following. Damn. It's funny if you think about it because the people at Nintendo who really know what it is are either sweating bullets or laughing hysterically

Yeah the other person with the conspiracy theory actually has a really good grasp on what could have happened if it is fake.

Someone makes a 3D printed shell, in white because that's like the "standard" Nintendo color for the past two gens. To cover up the "screen" they photoshop an image over it, not taking into account that the controller is at an angle, and the screen should be as well. So everyone is pointing this out and saying it's fake, they quickly pump out a second 3D model, this time in black, and they cut a glossy sheet of black plastic to put on the top to show it "powered off".

It could totally be real, but it absolutely could be fake and it really wouldn't be very hard to do with the tech we have readily available to us these days.
 

Muzicfreq

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Upon researching dev kits for an earlier post, I realized that Wii U dev kits are all white. It seems kind of strange to offer developers a cosmetic choice for their dev kits. Something is off, but I'm not sure what.

I still like the design quite a bit, though. That black color looks really nice, fake or not.
Nintenderp is gonna nintenderp and release 2 consoles again
One with 250GB and one with 500
 

AdanVC

Member
For those doubting the wonders of 3d printing - this is an iphone 6 3d print mock up next to a galaxy s5.

iphonemockupvsgalaxys5.jpg


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http://www.macrumors.com/2014/05/02/iphone-6-mockup-galaxy-s5/

Ok. Now i have no doubt, Is fake. #teamfake 100% fake

I don't know. Just look at the screen of the 3D print. Those kind of "waves" you can see deforming the reflections. It sort of tells you when a device is fake, a clone or simply a bad quality product. However, the NX controller pics from today have a smooth and a perfectly straight glass screen without any kind of waves deforming the reflections.
 

Marvel

could never
I don't know. Just look at the screen of the 3D print. Those kind of "waves" you can see deforming the reflections. It sort of tells you when a device is fake, a clone or simply a bad quality product. However, the pic of the today's NX controllers have a smooth and a perfectly straight glass screen without any kind of waves deforming the reflections.
I'm thinking 3D print case and nips with a glass screen slotted in.
 
Upon researching dev kits for an earlier post, I realized that Wii U dev kits are all white. It seems kind of strange to offer developers a cosmetic choice for their dev kits. Something is off, but I'm not sure what.

I still like the design quite a bit, though. That black color looks really nice, fake or not.

Who said Nintendo offered devs a choice, maybe they made a batch one colour then the next batch a different colour
 
I don't know. Just look at the screen of the 3D print. Those kind of "waves" you can see deforming the reflections. It sort of tells you when a device is fake, a clone or simply a bad quality product. However, the NX controller pics from today have a smooth and a perfectly straight glass screen without any kind of waves deforming the reflections.

The simple solution to this is that the case and thumb sticks are 3D printed and the screen is another material, be it glass or glossy plastic.
 

Bakkus

Member
Guys, even if this is a controller, it certainly won't be the only controller. I'm sure we'll get an NX Pro Controller aswell.
 

MogCakes

Member
I don't know. Just look at the screen of the 3D print. Those kind of "waves" you can see deforming the reflections. It sort of tells you when a device is fake, a clone or simply a bad quality product. However, the NX controller pics from today have a smooth and a perfectly straight glass screen without any kind of waves deforming the reflections.

Nah. They just used a thicker sheet.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
The simple solution to this is that the case and thumb sticks are 3D printed and the screen is another material, be it glass or glossy plastic.

The simplest solution would be this to be an actual device.

I'm still waiting for someone to 3d-print something like this by tomorrow, as it is claimed to be that easy.
 

seady

Member
If real, looks like they are doubling down on Wii-U's screen controller concept. Hahahaha get ready for another $150 dollar controller.

I think what Nintendo wants is everyone owns one like mobile phone and get together to play, instead of one person buys multiple controllers for others to play.
 

Discomurf

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#MIGHTBENOWSUPPOTINGTEAMFAKEBUTNOT100%SURE ... it is interesting that neither poster has taken a photo of the back or bottom of the controller, plus there is some suspicious placement of objects such as the WIiU controller, HDMI cable, etc.

Also (in my experience) devs don't generally work from a laptop and a consumer retail Samsung monitor.
 

Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
The simple solution to this is that the case and thumb sticks are 3D printed and the screen is another material, be it glass or glossy plastic.

You can analyse the materials as much as you want, but when you start getting a fair few "yes this is in line with what I've heard"s, and you realise dumb fake threads get locked on GAF within hours, the writing is kinda on the wall.
 

jblank83

Member
The simplest solution would be this to be an actual device.

I'm still waiting for someone to 3d-print something like this by tomorrow, as it is claimed to be that easy.

Given the evidence or lack of it, and the questionable material (the laughable "confidential" sticker, the nonfunctional sticks, etc), the simplest explanation is that it's a fake.

I would like someone to 3d print up a real fake, though.
 
I believe this. It looks like a solid piece of industrial design to me.

I'm certainly not seeing any of the smoking guns that other people are going for.
 
Making a 3D-printed mockup doesn't take very long.

Again, you are talking and talking and talking about how easy is to do this. Do it. Show it to us.

Yes I would also like to see someone with a 3D printer take a crack at this, for as easy as you're making it sound.

Given the evidence or lack of it, and the questionable material (the laughable "confidential" sticker, the nonfunctional sticks, etc), the simplest explanation is that it's a fake.

Of course the sticks aren't functional, these are pictures you big silly.
 
That's a nice looking mockup, imo.
Thanks. They can leave the right stick as the big A button with the rest as a haptic feedback based X,Y, B buttons all revolving around the A like on the GameCube.
...or they could add those buttons in if this doesn't work as well as they thought.
 

Parapraxis

Member
Given the evidence or lack of it, and the questionable material (the laughable "confidential" sticker, the nonfunctional sticks, etc), the simplest explanation is that it's a fake.

I would like someone to 3d print up a real fake, though.

Where did you get that info from?
 

Simbabbad

Member
The simplest solution would be this to be an actual device.

I'm still waiting for someone to 3d-print something like this by tomorrow, as it is claimed to be that easy.
The idea of someone 3D printing a mockup of a patent to fool people doesn't seem less likely than Nintendo releasing a controller without buttons nor D-pad. Especially since that'd mean the focus would be a controller with a touchscreen, the same as the Wii U, which failed horrendously at a commercial level. This is basically keeping what didn't work and removing what did.
 
Again, you are talking and talking and talking about how easy is to do this. Do it. Show it to us.



That could be a discussion that would make more sense than this 3d print stuff.

We don't have 3D printers or we would. If I knew how to 3D model I would do it right now and send the design to our New York branch where the 3D printer is and I would have one of them send me a picture and I would post it. Does anyone on NeoGaf actually have a 3D printer? It's not like we can go walk to Kinkos and shit one out for you. If this is a fake the person who made it clearly has access to materials to make one. I'm not gonna drop hundreds or thousands of dollars to order a 3D printer just to prove to you how easy it is to make something like this.
 

MogCakes

Member
You can analyse the materials as much as you want, but when you start getting a fair few "yes this is in line with what I've heard"s, and you realise dumb fake threads get locked on GAF within hours, the writing is kinda on the wall.

Rumor threads don't get locked until proven one way or another.

Again, you are talking and talking and talking about how easy is to do this. Do it. Show it to us.

Hm
 

zeioIIDX

Member

My hand is actually on my face (well, before I started typing this) and I had to pause the video at about 5:55....ugh....I hope they got paid extra to go embarrass themselves on stage like that :/

Oh and I don't think this NX prototype controller is 3D printed at all. On the other hand, I don't really like the idea of my entire freaking controller being a screen, virtual buttons, and analog nubs. Scrollable shoulder buttons is nifty though. If this is indeed the NX controller and this system doesn't end up doing as well as expected, I really think Nintendo need to go back to a traditional fucking controller finally. We've played their experimental stuff...now just give us a user input that is familiar and comfortable and focus on creating awesome 1st party content. Nintendo....it's okay to not be the black sheep for once.
 

Anth0ny

Member
Lol @ people saying they're already out, without,

A) knowing if this is fake,
B) knowing how it works
C) knowing what games are lined up for it

I can see why. People aren't interested in another underpowered console with no third party support, which is all but confirmed if this controller is real.

I'll be there for the first party games, but I'm not happy about the lack of buttons at all. I feel like that has to be changed by the time this thing launches, whether it's the controller itself or through a new classic controller being made available.
 
People calling this fake based off the quality of the materials/build? I wouldn't expect prototype hardware to be high quality. Also why wouldn't Nintendo use a 3D printer to make small numbers of prototype hardware? I'm no "expert" though.
 

Pastry

Banned
The simple solution to this is that the case and thumb sticks are 3D printed and the screen is another material, be it glass or glossy plastic.

There is nothing simple about that. The simple thing is that it's actually real and not an incredibly elaborate hoax.
 
You can analyse the materials as much as you want, but when you start getting a fair few "yes this is in line with what I've heard"s, and you realise dumb fake threads get locked on GAF within hours, the writing is kinda on the wall.

I can also look at the picture and go "Yeah that looks like it matches what I've heard" in relations to the patents we've all seen, but that doesn't mean this specific device is real, and the whole shenanigans with the "screen shot" being completely 100% fake don't do it any favors.

There is nothing simple about that. The simple thing is that it's actually real and not an incredibly elaborate hoax.

It would take me less than an hour to cut a piece of plastic to fit that shape. It's incredibly simple. If I wanted to take the time to make a fake controller to fool the internet, I could do so in less than a day very, very easily. I would use wood since I don't have a 3D printer and then paint it over with a plastic coating and then top it off with a thin sheet of glossy plastic for the screen.

I'm not saying it IS fake. I'm just saying it would be very easy to make if it is.
 
For those doubting the wonders of 3d printing - this is an iphone 6 3d print mock up next to a galaxy s5.

iphonemockupvsgalaxys5.jpg


Source
http://www.macrumors.com/2014/05/02/iphone-6-mockup-galaxy-s5/

I don't mean to be a jerk, but this is 100% proving #TeamReal's argument

3D printing is not magic. Look at the screen of the fake:

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It looks terrible, like some sort of funhouse mirror

And this was professionally created by people with professional equipment for the sole purpose of vetting out a design and was honed over the course of many months

Compare that to the screen of the leak:


Smooth and straight; it's not even close

Look at the video of the mockup - it clearly looks like a toy in comparison to the actual phone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=35&v=OzlR-pn0kig

The leak looks like an actual consumer device with a sturdy build quality you simply cannot achieve with 3D printing
 
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