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Milo Yiannopoulos is Going on Real Time with Bill Maher

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Look at Bill Maher just sitting there during this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PUu6M8ThhM&t=1m
Milo: "I think that women and ch- girls should be protected from having people - men - who are confused about their sexual identities in the bathroom."

Bill Maher: "THAT IS NOT UNREASONABLE."

Bill Maher: "Jack, where do you stand on weirdos peeing?"

Milo: "Did you just call transgender people weirdos?"

Bill: "Just to fuck with him!"

*crowd in uproarious laughter*

"One of the most progressive talkshow hosts on TV", according to the GAFer BADMAN!
 

Toxi

Banned
I see no difference between Milo and people like Piers Morgan and Ann Coulter who have already been on Bill Maher. In fact, a lot people will see through Milo whereas they think Morgan & Coulter are fine as political commentators, which is dangerous.
Who the hell thinks Ann Coulter is "fine" besides wingnuts?

Well, Wingnuts and Bill Maher.
 

~Kinggi~

Banned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PUu6M8ThhM&t=1m
Milo: "I think that women and ch- girls should be protected from having people - men - who are confused about their sexual identities in the bathroom."

Bill Maher: "THAT IS NOT UNREASONABLE."

Bill Maher: "Jack, where do you stand on weirdos peeing?"

Milo: "Did you just call transgender people weirdos?"

Bill: "Just to fuck with him!"

*crowd in uproarious laughter*

"One of the most progressive talkshow hosts on TV", according to the GAFer BADMAN!

Definitely the worst ive seen Maher in a long time.
 

Vyer

Member
yeah, that interview was about as bullshit as expected. All that happened was to give some free publicity to the shitstain and make him and his horrid message just a bit more mainstream.

when will people understand the danger is not in expecting some sort of takedown or articulate debate where Milo's points are countered in meaningful discussion

It's about a clown using his 'don't give a shit, do what I want' attitude to draw attention and fans while the hate speech is trojan horsed along.

It's exactly what Trump rode into the white house

some people never fucking learn
 

Cyframe

Member
I feel you're not getting what I am saying. I see a lot of pathos, and emotional anecdote and deconstruction quote wars you've taken out of context. I can only tell you that you don't get what I am saying at all.



I don't think it gives much to a discussion by you arguing through this lens. Many millions of people are being bulled and face cyber harassment every day. It goes without saying that advocating not taking troll bait is not the same thing as ignoring harrasment. That you're insinuating that gives me pause. I am genuinely puzzled as to why you'do something like this, but your entire post reads like an attempt to use emotional anecdotes as a leg to stand on.

It's a completely separate issue. You keep repeating that you can focus on two things at once, and I, and others have agreed. What I argued was that there is a semantic disconnect when Milos influence is so miniscule and insignicant compared to the many people whose danger is 1000x the output and who doesn't face any scrutiny. It betrays the levy of the way the argument is being presented. There is a leap of logic there.
I am not opposed to Milo being opposed simply because he is a small fry, I am opposed to the way the argument is being represented because it is flawed and no abstract logical construction justifies the level of outrage of Milo versus no outrage for the many many many people who exceed him. A better reasoning for not having him on would simply have been; "Milo should not be on because he is a smug cunt". That would have been more intellectually honest.


Of course I agree with a lot of the idealistic things you say. "Homophobia shouldn't be allowed". That is self evident, but we as humans are tribal and as long as we have these grouping structures other groups gains will be seen as their own groups loss. the glass is half full and others will encrouge on their own group. As a result I think it does a disservice if we talk about the morale and ethics of laws we need, but passed through down on a symbol. It's like a dog chasing it's own tail. Milo is not the cause of that. But focusing on Milo getting away with harramsent says more about a society that is inherently okay with harrasment. If you put it on Milo, you're by definition taking away from the overarching theme of harramsent and his crimes are a puddle. Think about how deep this problem go through all of society. It truly bothers me that people believe things will get better if you remove Milo.

You literally told me that that I want to sweep right nationalists under the carpet. Come on. Also, what is the name of this thread? If this was a general harassment thread, I wouldn't be mentioning Milo

Unfortunately, I have to say that I've reached an impasse with you, and further conversation I don't believe would be fruitful. Especially if you think my personal accounts amount to manipulation.

My opinion is literally, maybe you shouldn't platform those who lead harassment campaigns. Good night.
 

~Kinggi~

Banned
yeah, that interview was about as bullshit as expected. All that happened was to give some free publicity to the shitstain and make him and his horrid message just a bit more mainstream.

when will people understand the danger is not in expecting some sort of takedown or articulate debate where Milo's points are countered in meaningful discussion

It's about a clown using his 'don't give a shit, do what I want' attitude to draw attention and fans while the hate speech is trojan horsed along.

It's exactly what Trump rode into the white house

some people never fucking learn

Yeah the irony im seeing of this is if Bill really was charmed by Milo (which i heavily doubt by the end of the show, he seemed pissed) but if he was, ITS THE SAME FUCKING THING that got Trump to where he was, being charmed while he burns it all down.
 

Syder

Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PUu6M8ThhM&t=1m
Milo: "I think that women and ch- girls should be protected from having people - men - who are confused about their sexual identities in the bathroom."

Bill Maher: "THAT IS NOT UNREASONABLE."

Bill Maher: "Jack, where do you stand on weirdos peeing?"

Milo: "Did you just call transgender people weirdos?"

Bill: "Just to fuck with him!"

*crowd in uproarious laughter*

"One of the most progressive talkshow hosts on TV", according to the GAFer BADMAN!
What the fuck.
Why were people worried about Milo being on TV when Bill Maher is happy to throw trans people under the bus for a laugh? Fuck this guy.
 
i mean bill maher's entire shtick is glibly marginalizing already vulnerable groups under a persona of smartass whiteguy liberalism. i guess it took trump to be president for some peeps to realize he's a trash motherfucker who exclusively appeals to the rubes of r/atheism.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PUu6M8ThhM&t=1m
Milo: "I think that women and ch- girls should be protected from having people - men - who are confused about their sexual identities in the bathroom."

Bill Maher: "THAT IS NOT UNREASONABLE."

Bill Maher: "Jack, where do you stand on weirdos peeing?"

Milo: "Did you just call transgender people weirdos?"

Bill: "Just to fuck with him!"

*crowd in uproarious laughter*

"One of the most progressive talkshow hosts on TV", according to the GAFer BADMAN!

If you listen, people started to clap after Maher said "that's not unreasonable" but quickly realized they fucked up.

Smart audience!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PUu6M8ThhM&t=1m
Milo: "I think that women and ch- girls should be protected from having people - men - who are confused about their sexual identities in the bathroom."

Bill Maher: "THAT IS NOT UNREASONABLE."

Bill Maher: "Jack, where do you stand on weirdos peeing?"

Milo: "Did you just call transgender people weirdos?"

Bill: "Just to fuck with him!"

*crowd in uproarious laughter*

"One of the most progressive talkshow hosts on TV", according to the GAFer BADMAN!

.........

No words. None.
 
Ironically for all the talk that Milo would be exposed by Maher, it was Maher that was exposed by Milo.

I never thought Maher was ever the best aly but the amount of transphobia from Milo that Maher deemed reasonable or stayed silent on actually shocked me.
 
Naw, you heard some of them scream "GO MILO". There were clearly fanboys in that audience.

Yeah there was quite a bit of cheering (and also booing) for Milo throughout.

Honestly the whole thing seemed like a win from his perspective and I won't be remotely shocked if Bill has him back on. Especially when the ratings roll in
 

Ratrat

Member
He doesn't need to come off as intelligent to be normalised. The playful tone with "why can't we all just get along ;D" underlying it results in Milo just being a guy with zany views. That they didn't immediately shutdown his gross transphobia to some degree legitimises it. And when Maher himself lets him continue calling it "reasonable" it normalises it then some.
He didnt sound reasonable or make a good argument imo. I dont think hes going to change anyones views. It was pure over the top transphobia and he comes off as an insincere asshole.
 
Didn't even watch the episode and I knew it was going to go the way it has gone according to this thread.

One damn day you fools will actually listen. But no "Let's bring him on the show gaiz, freedumz! wow just as bad as the right for not wanting him on teh shows!"

Look at all the good this did though! It further normalized and legitimized Milo/White Nationalists' argument as merely a difference in "opinion"

Bravo, bra-fucking-vo.

Now off you go back to your lives where none of this affects you.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PUu6M8ThhM&t=1m
Milo: "I think that women and ch- girls should be protected from having people - men - who are confused about their sexual identities in the bathroom."

Bill Maher: "THAT IS NOT UNREASONABLE."

Bill Maher: "Jack, where do you stand on weirdos peeing?"

Milo: "Did you just call transgender people weirdos?"

Bill: "Just to fuck with him!"

*crowd in uproarious laughter*

"One of the most progressive talkshow hosts on TV", according to the GAFer BADMAN!
Has Maher ever commented on the situation about trans people and public bathrooms before?

I literally gasped when he said it wasn't unreasonable to discriminate.
 

~Kinggi~

Banned
He didnt sound reasonable or make a good argument imo. I dont think hes going to change anyones views. It was pure over the top transphobia and he comes off as an insincere asshole.

I think what has really happened, the root of all of this sensitive shit ive been seeing everywhere, is now that Trump made it to be the president, there is ZERO confidence in the critical thinking of people to be able to trust folks to see crazy like this and think for themselves. People are now afraid at the mere thought of crazy appearing anywhere with an audience, because there is just no confidence in defense against it.
 
He didnt sound reasonable or make a good argument imo. I dont think hes going to change anyones views. It was pure over the top transphobia and he comes off as an insincere asshole.

It gives validation to holding those views when they are showcased on a relatively respectable platform and when the person holding those views receives nothing harsher than playful zingers from the host.

Enough people already hold these views for this kind of normalization to be dangerous.
 
I think what has really happened, the root of all of this sensitive shit ive been seeing everywhere, is now that Trump made it to be the president, there is ZERO confidence in the critical thinking of people to be able to trust folks to see crazy like this and think for themselves. People are now afraid at the mere thought of crazy appearing anywhere with an audience, because there is just no confidence in defense against it.

Yep, and tonight is even more proof.

What defense did Maher have against Milo's transphobia? Nothing, he called some of it reasonable
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
People don't make protest threads ahead of their appearances on TV shows.

Their brand of hate is far more damaging than Milo's because it's so covert.
People have seen Morgan as a cunt for at least 15-20 years. I don't know what else there is to protest, but it's why I thought of CNN as a joke channel for years when they gave him his own show.

But I've long hated Maher's insistence on having "conservatives" on his panel, because none of the "good" ones want to come on and he has to basically trawl the human garbage heap to find anyone willing to come on his show and tell us all how global warming isn't real and Obama is evil.
 

Toxi

Banned
I think what has really happened, the root of all of this sensitive shit ive been seeing everywhere, is now that Trump made it to be the president, there is ZERO confidence in the critical thinking of people to be able to trust folks to see crazy like this and think for themselves. People are now afraid at the mere thought of crazy appearing anywhere with an audience, because there is just no confidence in defense against it.
There is no moral obligation to give crazy your screentime in the first place.
 

Rootbeer

Banned
He didnt sound reasonable or make a good argument imo. I dont think hes going to change anyones views. It was pure over the top transphobia and he comes off as an insincere asshole.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant. His opinions and comments are gross.
 

Dude Abides

Banned
My favorite part was when Maher called trans people "weirdos". Think he'll remember that the next time he's ranting about intolerance in the Muslim world?
 

Syder

Member
People have seen Morgan as a cunt for at least 15-20 years. I don't know what else there is to protest, but it's why I thought of CNN as a joke channel for years when they gave him his own show.

But I've long hated Maher's insistence on having "conservatives" on his panel, because none of the "good" ones want to come on and he has to basically trawl the human garbage heap to find anyone willing to come on his show and tell us all how global warming isn't real and Obama is evil.
I completely agree with you.
 

Moonkid

Member
He didnt sound reasonable or make a good argument imo. I dont think hes going to change anyones views. It was pure over the top transphobia and he comes off as an insincere asshole.
Again, he doesn't need to sound reasonable or make a good argument for normalisation to occur. When we refer to normalisation we don't mean people are going to necessarily agree with him or change their minds, but rather that those views are being presented as a legitimate difference of opinion. To us it may seem blatant, but for someone who's less versed on these issues it's going to seem reasonable especially considering Maher's response.
 

~Kinggi~

Banned
Well i dont do the twitter but i would recommend everyone tweet bill or whatever method to contact him and express concerns about how this was disturbing and bill seriously needs to do his homework on who the fuck he lets in the doors. Maybe find a way to work in how Trump has charmed everyone too into the mix.
 

Ratrat

Member
So someone who has never heard of him watches this interview...
Will they come away with a positive impression? I've watched a handful of videos on youtube and this is easily his worst appearance imo.
 
Look at how uninformed Bill Maher is, with no idea if that transgender being sex criminals statistic is true or not. *shrug*

milo_transphobia_bill_maher_by_digi_matrix-dazgak9.gif
 

Got

Banned
Well i dont do the twitter but i would recommend everyone tweet bill or whatever method to contact him and express concerns about how this was disturbing and bill seriously needs to do his homework on who the fuck he lets in the doors. Maybe find a way to work in how Trump has charmed everyone too into the mix.

Bill's a victim of his own bubble which conveniently places him as the victim of extreme liberalism. He ain't coming out of that no matter what you say to him and he'll stay in that bubble.
 
Can GAF hook me up with with a link to watch the show on YouTube completely? Last week I watched it that way thanks to GAF. Do help us please.
 
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