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[Fabieter]

What's with all the people thinking consoles won't be affected by this? Same thing happened in another recent discussion about AMD and Nvidia focusing on AI chips over consumer graphics hardware.

Where do you think the hardware in your consoles comes from?

Ofc its gonna be affected but B2B and B2C is also not the same so you cant compare them directly in the way you think either.

 

[Three]

They don't make memories, they just rebrand and sell, make no diff.

Crucial is Micron's own consumer brand. They make memory.

 

[LectureMaster]

PC Master Race more like PC Zero RAM

 

[Hector Hall]

nonsense. Over half of Capcom's revenue comes from PC. 20 games released this very year had a CCU over a 100k.

That's bullshit. With these keys the publisher gets 100% of the revenue, often times making more money than they would from Steam. Only a tiny, tiny fraction of these keys come from sources like credit card fraud.

100k is not so much worldwide

Capcom games are always 10 dollars on Steam. It enters the "cheapo" usual Steam buying pattern.

About the keys, there has been enough documental data and declarations from nearly all publishers that they don't sell keys to those sites. Also common sense, no way those sites can have those games for half the price since release and have them always way cheaper, it's the publisher who fixes the price in Steam/Eshop/PSN/Xbox Live. Another useful information for you, those sites that are backing dozens of youtubers and that offer Windows or Office keys for 12/13 quids, are also piratery.

 

[Deficit]

Ps5 Pro MASTERRACE

also when the INEVITABLE ai bubble bursts remember which companies weren't too keen on your business

Yep. Thank god the PS5 pro doesnt use RAM. Great foresight, from sony engineers.

 

[simpatico]

Chip shortage is about to blow over guys. 32GB PS6 at $599 in less than two years away.

 

[jm89]

What's with all the people thinking consoles won't be affected by this?

Yes consoles will be effected, but not to the extent of pc, at least if your trying to build a decent rig.

 

[Deficit]

100k is not so much worldwide

Capcom games are always 10 dollars on Steam. It enters the "cheapo" usual Steam buying pattern.

About the keys, there has been enough documental data and declarations from nearly all publishers that they don't sell keys to those sites. Also common sense, no way those sites can have those games for half the price since release and have them always way cheaper, it's the publisher who fixes the price in Steam/Eshop/PSN/Xbox Live. Another useful information for you, those sites that are backing dozens of youtubers and that offer Windows or Office keys for 12/13 quids, are also piratery.

Appr, its bad to wait for discounts on games. Instead, drop 70+ on every new game. Even when most of that new AAA slop, is unoptimized gabrage.

 

[Famipan]

I'm grateful for their SSD's although I'm worried that those I got had some problems.

Also grateful that I invested in them at the right time on a whim, although I only bought two stocks and now only got one left.

 

[mckmas8808]

Honestly, there's no way new consoles can come out in 2027. Devs are gonna have to batten down the hatches and learn to optimize. Like how 7th gen was extended.

I wish you are correct here. Who wants to pay $800 for a console, that normally would be $600?

 

[MisterXDTV]

I wish you are correct here. Who wants to pay $800 for a console, that normally would be $600?

Sony will delay PS6 until they can bring the price back on track

It's not like people will move to Xbox anyway....

 

[mckmas8808]

It kinda is, only companies making big money on it are hardware manufacturers.

I use real-world A.I. everyday riding into work in my Tesla. Plus I use it at my job and it's pretty good. AI is 100% not a scam.

 

[simpatico]

Yes consoles will be effected, but not to the extent of pc, at least if your trying to build a decent rig.

What if they want to build a decent console? They'll just absorb the cost because software profitability has been so high lately?

 

[Mercador]

(If || When) the bubble pops, it will hurt everyone.

 

[Deficit]

Sony will delay PS6 until they can bring the price back on track

It's not like people will move to Xbox anyway....

Lol, sounds like 2005. But in all seriousiness, you're proably right. Due to digital lock in.

 

[JimmyRustler]

How is anyone going to use AI when no one can afford to buy laptops/pc's/phones anymore

Who says big tech wants you to actually own anything?

 

[Three]

Yes consoles will be effected, but not to the extent of pc.

Rattled that Deficit guy giving a laugh emoji, must be one of them "good posts" he loves.

PS5 Pro is unrelated to this thread but I mean you're not wrong, the PS5 Pro was on sale for $648/£565 instead of going up. It's clearly riding it out and going unaffected. Not sure how long that will last though when stock runs out and they need to manufacture again.

 

[Draugoth]

PC Gamers will hate AI in a year.

 

[JayK47]

It seems like it is always something causing some shortage and/or price spike. I guess my PC will have to last a very long time. I wonder how this will affect PC makers like Dell and Alienware. Will I no longer be able to make my own PC and have to get some premade stuff? Maybe the Steam Deck will look that much better now. Either way, I am sure we will survive this. Maybe it is time for GAF to make our own memory.

 

[Deficit]

Rattled that Deficit guy giving a laugh emoji, must be one of them "good posts" he loves.

PS5 Pro is unrelated to this thread but I mean you're not wrong, the PS5 Pro was on sale for $648/£565 instead of going up. It's clearly riding it out and going unaffected. Not sure how long that will last though when stock runs out and they need to manufacture again.

Yes, because Sony has stockpiled ram. What happens when that runs out? Does sony have enough ram for 2-3 years?

 

[willothedog]

Sony and Nintendo secured some RAM but don't know for how long.

Did they? MLID is the only source for this AFAIK.

 

[Bojji]

Yep. Thank god the PS5 pro doesnt use RAM. Great foresight, from sony engineers.

Power of the SSD baby!*

*Wait, SSD uses memory chips as well?!

I use real-world A.I. everyday riding into work in my Tesla. Plus I use it at my job and it's pretty good. AI is 100% not a scam.

Yeah, even with many pyramid schemes there was some working product being sold. Ai clearly works, but you have to see who exactly is making money out of it, it's mostly just hardware manufacturers.

 

[The Cockatrice]

No idea what the issue is when you can just download rams for free.

DownloadMoreRAM.com - CloudRAM 2.0

DownloadMoreRAM.com - CloudRAM 2.0

downloadmoreram.com

 

[Three]

Yes, because Sony has stockpiled ram. What happens when that runs out? Does sony have enough ram for 2-3 years?

Did you even read my post? 2-3 years is within PS6 release anyway so nothing to do with PS5 Pro. We don't even know how long this shortage will last. Clearly that post was about the here and now and it got you rattled.

 

[jm89]

Yes, because Sony has stockpiled ram. What happens when that runs out? Does sony have enough ram for 2-3 year

It will most likely go up in price. But you will be paying more out the ass for pc.

 

[Hector Hall]

"Buy pirated keys"

What happens Adam, you learn in your late 40s that Eneba, Instant Gaming, G2A and all those keys stores are not buying the games to developers and are shady as fuck?

One example, Baldur Gate 3, Larian has never lowered the price and confirmed it didn't sell keys of it to anyone. Yet you go to these sites ad it half the price always.

 

[mckmas8808]

Yeah, even with many pyramid schemes there was some working product being sold. Ai clearly works, but you have to see who exactly is making money out of it, it's mostly just hardware manufacturers.

Yeah for now. They are the biggest winners. Many of the software companies are holding the bag so far. I think in 2-3 years we'll start seeing the biggest software makers start to profit off of AI next.

 

[Kacho]

I guess my PC will have to last a very long time.

Yeah probably. The price to build a PC just a couple years ago was already ridiculous. I had to drop close to a grand for a mid-range GPU. No bueno. I was already thinking this might be my last PC, but with the way things are going, its looking likely.

 

[vkbest]

Relax boys, that RAM will be used to create your future games running in your potato PC/Console.

 

[Hector Hall]

Appr, its bad to wait for discounts on games. Instead, drop 70+ on every new game. Even when most of that new AAA slop, is unoptimized gabrage.

No, it's not bad, it's just what it is, a market of people that spend a lot on their rigs and don't want to spend more than 10 or 20 per game and don't mind buying dubious keys to achieve it. Nothing bad per se, but it is what it is and that's just what the other poster was saying.

 

[CentralScrutinizer]

How is anyone going to use AI when no one can afford to buy laptops/pc's/phones anymore

This is insinuating the AI is meant for us regular people.

 

[adamsapple]

What happens Adam, you learn in your late 40s that Eneba, Instant Gaming, G2A and all those keys stores are not buying the games to developers and are shady as fuck?

Yeah, no, they're not 'pirated keys'.

Grey market is not black market.

 

[DirtInUrEye]

How long till Nvidia withdraws from the consumer GPU market? Seriously.

 

[Walliwallipaloo]

You think memory is high now... it is going to go through the roof next year. i am sure other memory makers are already looking to redirect large parts of their production solely to enterprise and not consumer.

https://investors.micron.com/news-releases/news-release-details/micron-announces-exit-crucial-consumer-business

Micron Technology, Inc. (Nasdaq: MU), a leader in innovative memory and storage solutions, today announced its decision to exit the Crucial consumer business, including the sale of Crucial consumer-branded products at key retailers, e-tailers and distributors worldwide.

Micron will continue Crucial consumer product shipments through the consumer channel until the end of fiscal Q2 (February 2026). The company will work closely with partners and customers through this transition and will provide continued warranty service and support for Crucial products. Micron will continue to support the sale of Micron-branded enterprise products to commercial channel customers globally.

"The AI-driven growth in the data center has led to a surge in demand for memory and storage. Micron has made the difficult decision to exit the Crucial consumer business in order to improve supply and support for our larger, strategic customers in faster-growing segments," said Sumit Sadana, EVP and Chief Business Officer at Micron Technology. "Thanks to a passionate community of consumers, the Crucial brand has become synonymous with technical leadership, quality and reliability of leading-edge memory and storage products. We would like to thank our millions of customers, hundreds of partners and all of the Micron team members who have supported the Crucial journey for the last 29 years."

I hope the bubble bursts sooner rather than later, and I hope that you and everyone who works for you goes out of a job.
Sincerely.

 

[Fabieter]

Yeah, no, they're not 'pirated keys'.

Grey market is not black market.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/s/ainCak3fOJ

If keys are stolen devs have to pay for chargebacks. It can be worse than piracy.

 

[BennyBlanco]

What happens Adam, you learn in your late 40s that Eneba, Instant Gaming, G2A and all those keys stores are not buying the games to developers and are shady as fuck?

One example, Baldur Gate 3, Larian has never lowered the price and confirmed it didn't sell keys of it to anyone. Yet you go to these sites ad it half the price always.

No self respecting PC gamer buys from g2a or kinguin, etc.

Eneba is a legit retailer. So are GMG, Fanatical, Humble, etc.

You have gone full retard in this thread, but it's filling the rofif sized hole in my heart.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Yeah, even with many pyramid schemes there was some working product being sold. Ai clearly works, but you have to see who exactly is making money out of it, it's mostly just hardware manufacturers.

In a gold rush, you want to be the one selling the picks and shovels

 

[Hector Hall]

Yeah, no, they're not 'pirated keys'.

Grey market is not black market.

How do you call it?

Larian confirms they didn't sell keys to anyone and all those sites have their game half price.

EA confirms officially they don't sell codes to G2A or Eneba and their games are on those two sites heavily discounted. Mother of God, in their own website they tell us not to buy keys on those sites, bc fraudulent and if detected will be deleted.

Devolver Digital says they don't work with any of those "spineless bastards" yet all those sites have keys for their games.

You can call it gray if it makes you sleep better at night. But those keys are fraudulent, and the money doesn't get to publishers/developers.

 

[adamsapple]

No self respecting PC gamer buys from g2a or kinguin, etc.

Eneba is a legit retailer. So are GMG, Fanatical, Humble, etc.

You have gone full retard in this thread, but it's filling the rofif sized hole in my heart.

Cdkeys is also legit, just to add one. Use eneba all the time for pc and console stuff too, never had issues with invalid keys etc

Never bought anything from g2a myself but have heard about their 'controversies' before.

 

[Hector Hall]

No self respecting PC gamer buys from g2a or kinguin, etc.

Eneba is a legit retailer. So are GMG, Fanatical, Humble, etc.

You have gone full retard in this thread, but it's filling the rofif sized hole in my heart.

Self respecting and PC gamer is antithetical don't you think .

Jokes aside, Humble is legit, and GOG. All others aren't legit.

Eneba legit, and you speak of others going full retard , oh my...

 

[CuteFaceJay]

This is a real shame to see happen, Crucial SSD are good ones I've been using for years and upgraded to an M.2 drive from them back in 2019 ready for when RDR2 was announced for PC.

The price they offer was the most friendly for what you were getting.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Self respecting and PC gamer is antithetical don't you think .

Jokes aside, Humble is legit, and GOG. All others aren't legit.

Eneba legit, and you speak of others going full retard , oh my...

Eneba has been around forever and Ive bought keys there 10 years ago.

GOG is not a key reseller, genius.

Fanatical, GMG, Gamebillet, IndieGala, and a ton more buy their keys directly from publishers.

 

[Deficit]

How do you call it?

Larian confirms they didn't sell keys to anyone and all those sites have their game half price.

EA confirms officially they don't sell codes to G2A or Eneba and their games are on those two sites heavily discounted. Mother of God, in their own website they tell us not to buy keys on those sites, bc fraudulent and if detected will be deleted.

Devolver Digital says they don't work with any of those "spineless bastards" yet all those sites have keys for their games.

You can call it gray if it makes you sleep better at night. But those keys are fraudulent, and the money doesn't get to publishers/developers.

This post radiates....

 

[Hector Hall]

Eneba has been around forever and Ive bought keys there 10 years ago.

GOG is not a key reseller, genius.

Fanatical, GMG, Gamebillet, IndieGala, and a ton more buy their keys directly from publishers.

That you have bought from them doesn't turn them legit.

Eneba, whom Devolver digital called "Pieces of Shit", is selling Windows 11 for 11.54 in my country right now.

I haven't said GOG is a reseller.

But most others aren't resellers either, because they don't buy the games at all.

Fanatical has their HQ in UK, maybe it's legit, IDK that one. Most others have their HQ in Hong Kong, fiscal paradises or Arab Emirates.

 

[Pop]

Thats actually crazy

Companies are going to need to eat those ram prices when selling pre built pcs or the price will be astronomical

 

[Closer]

Imagine living in a world where companies cares about how much they're gonna take from you.

 

[CobraAB]

"We would like to thank our millions of customers"

"Now go fuck yourselves....."

 

[Holammer]

People laughing it up on PC owners expense realizing it's going to disrupt consoles, smartphones and other devices too.

 

[simpatico]

Ofc its gonna be affected but B2B and B2C is also not the same so you cant compare them directly in the way you think either.

The consumer RAM market is part of B2B. G.Skill or whoever buys a bunch from Micron or Hynix and breaks it down into proverbial dime bags for use in hentai rigs. Micron is just not doing retail sales under the Crucial brand anymore. But those dimebags of consumer RAM probably have the highest margins, so there's no obvious business sense until you factor in possible contractual obligations to other clients. Which wouldn't leave thin margin consumer electronics in a much better place in terms of being able to have some allocated away from the compute centers. Any chip they use in a Switch 2 or PS5 comes directly off of Sam Altman's starving mother's dinner plate. Why they would treat the Altman family so poorly I'll never know. They need those chips Fab.

 

[BennyBlanco]

That you have bought from them doesn't turn them legit.

Eneba, whom Devolver digital called "Pieces of Shit", is selling Windows 11 for 11.54 in my country right now.

I haven't said GOG is a reseller.

But most others aren't resellers either, because they don't buy the games at all.

Fanatical has their HQ in UK, maybe it's legit, IDK that one. Most others have their HQ in Hong Kong, fiscal paradises or Arab Emirates.

You are talking out of your ass. g2a, kinguin, and a bunch of other sites are basically like eBay for Steam keys. Anyone can go on kinguin and sell a key.

GMG, Fanatical, IndieGala, etc buy their keys from publishers.

And if you didn't mean to imply GoG was a key reseller why bring them up in this context? You clearly are just not familiar with any of this stuff.