Yes i'll keep thinking about facts. You can keep thinking about the imaginary 5M extra needed for the game to be a hit.
I had a lengthy conversation with James RIP already....I addressed all the points. You can think whatever you wanna think.
If it's the 4chan leak I think you are talking about them it's definitely fake (Colin Graves is the comic relief? He's the one she's hunting in the trailer (Kumail Nanjiani))
Well, they haven't put out a new game since 2020 so...
It was a "hit," certainly, just not as big as it was supposed to be, thus underperforming....Not rocket science.
This didn't come out of the blue, buddy
Well, yes but also not really. Naughty Dog, like many Western devs, maintains the ability to alter mandatory working hours in their contracts. For TLOUP2, for example, the company was on mandated overtime for well over an entire year (rumours are that it was actually two years, but I've never seen that corroborated). When you look back at ye olde dev houses, like id Software's infamous 20 hour days on Doom, Doom 2, and Quake, it was because the devs were also the owners of the company, and everyone else was getting profit shares. They put in the work because they were getting something out of it - and in my examples, we're talking literally millions. A lot of modern Dev contracts don't have those kinds of profit shares, and some don't even increase pay based on hours - you get your salary, regardless of the hours, and the company will give you one free meals a day when on mandatory overtime. Forcing people to work 80 hour minimum weeks for 52 weeks straight so some fucknut can keep their bonus if the game launches on time is pretty shitty, frankly.
I've seen that "Yotei bombed!" non-sense around, but I don't know where it comes from. The marketing team did that game dirty, because by all accounts I've seen, it's a pretty good game. Not going to set the world on fire, but Sucker Punch did well with it.
There is nothing wrong with moonlighting, and where I live it's protected by law that your employer can't prevent it. But again, moonlighting (daylighting?) in this case is essentially stealing from the company because he was supposed to be working and wasn't. All these scenarios seem pretty cut and dry to me. It's real simple. Don't steal, don't lie. Do your job. It's sad some adults even need to be told this.
It bombed across the board; generally speaking. It got crushed.
Well "bombed" is a hold-over term from box office numbers. A movie bombs when it posts exceptionally low numbers; usually enough to declare the movie a financial failure (didn't make it's budget). Yotei isn't tail gaiting BF6, but it's numbers seem respectable?
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bombed/flopped...whatever.
That game will be forgotten faster than Remember Me. ZERO awards at TGA, unlike Ghost of Tsushima...It bombed so hard that leadership at Sucker Punch faced consequences.
No idea, but i wouldn't be surprised about most of these tech jobs where people go to work doing jackshit half the day.
So one team worked on Factions, while the other was on Intergalactic, then the Factions team went on to work on what we assume to be TLOU3? I guess it makes sense.
They "made their money back." But did they really, when the game loses relevance and impact, and fails to elevate the success of the IP?
I'm sorry if that triggers you, but it's true. (Days Gone will probably remain with higher total sales than Yotei, btw.)
They "made their money back." But did they really, when the game loses relevance and impact, and fails to elevate the success of the IP?
Jason Schreier: Naughty Dog enacts mandatory overtime for staff in order to finish Integalactic internal demo
Uh?..... You understand that Sony is not only spending money on this game, right? They are INVESTING in the future of this NEW IP too. tech/code/system-mechanics etc..
What you call "goal post moving" is, in fact, very relevant: Anthem, Days Gone, Concord, Drive Club, The Order 1886, Redfall, to name a few.
We have games that "Bombed" so hard "across the board" that killed the IP and even the studio....Yotei is in that list, too, now (killed the IP).
So, in the context of the conversation I was having with the other user:
Sony and Naughty Dog are not at the stage of "BioWare Magic" or "Bungie Sauce," or whatever you want to call it. Naughty Dog can't play the "we are the Naughty Gods" card anymore (intergalactic trailer reception made that clear). And PlayStation´s "Cinematic Formula" is losing its luster; graphics will not "save" a game like Intergalactic, even if it "makes its money back". This could very well be the only game released from this IP and Druckman's last game at ND/Sony.
What headache? You mean the game being leaked? Even so, the game sold 4 Million copies in 3 days.
That idiot PlanetSmasher is throwing a fit.
Tokon is slated for next year, but that could be delayed. Marathon is also a PS game even though it's a multiplat.
I'm sure you said the same thing about Ghost of Yotei.
It just dawned on me that this main character seems exactly like someone you would encounter at a McDonald's behind the counter with a smug look not wanting to take your order.Schrier surely is a well revered reddit community member.
I have a feeling it may not be as successful as Last of Us and Uncharted either. The character is highly offensive to some people (myself included). I likely won't play the game because of THAT being the main character.I'm sure you said the same thing about Ghost of Yotei.
