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[asdasdasdbb]

upselling an expected feature that every PlayStation gen has launched with.

I think that's the point of keeping it separate. Sending the message that if you want physical, you are going to have to pay dearly for it.

Keep in mind that while they will call it PS6, it will be priced like a Pro console. Either they will still continue to sell the PS5 or there will be a "Series S" model.

 

[Zacfoldor]

 

[Griffon]

There wont be a disc reader.

 

[PaintTinJr]

I think that's the point of keeping it separate. Sending the message that if you want physical, you are going to have to pay dearly for it.

Keep in mind that while they will call it PS6, it will be priced like a Pro console. Either they will still continue to sell the PS5 or there will be a "Series S" model.

After launch yes, but without a de facto built-in disc option the perception of the library looks more limited diminishing the brand at the most critical time.

Launch isn't the time to be listening to widespread comments from people like me that wanted a built-in disc option and then had a battle to find a bun for that PS6 hotdog, and then when I did, have wasted another 10mins installing it without trying to mark the console. I've just done that over xmas for youngest that wanted a Pro as her main item, and it just ruined the new console experience having to unsheathe the console chassis and fit, to end up with a spare panel and spare stand feet, and another box that wouldn't even fit inside the pro box along with the spare panel that I now need to make a mental note of where it will live for the life of console in case I need to reinstall.

At least the 2hrs of transferring console to console data by direct CAT6e was a choice we could have skipped on the day. The drive is essential to play disc bought games.

Momentum at launch without such complaints will be much greater if they just repeat what they did with the PS5, and I'm pretty sure they'll do that after the backlash and flat response to the launch of the PS5 Pro IMO.

 

[yogaflame]

Yes. They might even run ps3, full back ward compatible from ps3 to ps5 hopefully.

 

[poppabk]

Yep. But I also think that at best the PS6 will have a limited run of consoles with a built in drive and then they will switch to digital versions only with a drive add-on available.

 

[NahaNago]

I think the ps6 will be a digital console with a disc drive add on available. I'd love it if it had a built-in disc drive, but I just don't think it will happen.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Launch isn't the time to be listening to widespread comments from people like me that wanted a built-in disc option and then had a battle to find a bun for that PS6 hotdog, and then when I did, have wasted another 10mins installing it without trying to mark the console.

So then you just give up and go all Digital?

 

[PixelatedBeast]

Why wouldn't it? Bluerays still provide the best value and I dont see Sony dropping Blueray support. Physical isnt going anywhere.

 

[Fortuneelsewhere]

It will have an opcional disk drive able to read ps4/5/6 games… only ps7 will be exclusively digital, but even so, it will manage to read discs via external drive for back compatibility reasons..

 

[Pimpbaa]

It will probably be like ps5 slim and come with and without. Easier to do than 2 separate models like the old standard ps5. They might go the ps5 pro route however and make it an optional separate purchase. Hard to say. I guess it depends on the digital vs physical game in the future.

 

[Durin]

They'd be pretty stupid not to at least offer the disc option.

I expect the PS4 to play both PS5 & PS4 games, otherwise I don't get the point of them doing these AMD apu machines.

 

[TidusYuna]

If it doesn't play physical media, I'm out.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

I seriously doubt there is any need for two separate versions of the peripheral blu ray drive. Sony would see that as a waste. So the smart money would be that PS6 can be bought with an optional blu-Ray drive, and it would be the same as the one for PS5.

For regions that still mostly use Discs, PS6 would come packed with the drives by default. But the idea is that it is an optional purchase.

 

[Mozza]

I would imagine the situation will be exactly the same as the PS5, a disc based PS6 and a digital one, with the disc version playing PS5 discs. Perhaps Sony will ditch the digital only version to reduce costs and concentrate on getting as much stock available in the launch window. The only mystery for me is what form their handheld device will adopt.

 

[awwr999999]

They have to sell blu ray movies. It will read discs

Discs will likely be less expensive data disks that lack built-in activation licenses.
Install games with data disks and activate games via PSN.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

I would imagine the situation will be exactly the same as the PS5, a disc based PS6 and a digital one, with the disc version playing PS5 discs. Perhaps Sony will ditch the digital only version to reduce costs and concentrate on getting as much stock available in the launch window. The only mystery for me is what form their handheld device will adopt.

It is my opinion that portable PS6 is a marketing mistake. Instead, they should just call it a portable PS5. The goal here is to release hardware that would actually be cheaper than regular PS5 on launch and thus basically replace the old position of the PS5 Slim.

The amount of games that a Portable PS5 can run would not be much less than if you say it was a PS6. At least not for 5 years. So there is no point causing confusion and future issues when actual PS6-specific games come out after a decade and Sony realized it couldn't run on the portable. Just make the portable an extension of the PS5 family and everyone would be happier.

 

[Fbh]

Yes, but I expect the bae system will be digital only and the disc drive will be a separate optional purchase. It might not even integrate into the design like the current one but instead just be something you connect with a cable.

That said, you might as well stop buying games altogether for now if you are going with a "just wait for next gen" mentality.

 

[Hector Hall]

Of course.

Maybe it will be optional, but most stores will do packs with the disc drive included, they need users to buy phisical games to survive.

 

[Trilobit]

PS6 will cost a gazillion pesos if the RAM shortage continues.

Yes, but I expect the bae system will be digital only and the disc drive will be a separate optional purchase.

You need to have less romantic relationships with your tech.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

Of course.

Maybe it will be optional, but most stores will do packs with the disc drive included, they need users to buy phisical games to survive.

That is definitely something to consider. That storefronts would prefer to stock the disc drives than not. Sony would likely not resist this as long as selling the disc drives is profitable by themselves.

Having separate SKUs for dsc and digital is likely not going to happen anymore. That is a hassle for Sony to deal with. PS6 will just have one digital sku but with optional disc drive packed in the box.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

It is my opinion that portable PS6 is a marketing mistake. Instead, they should just call it a portable PS5. The goal here is to release hardware that would actually be cheaper than regular PS5 on launch and thus basically replace the old position of the PS5 Slim.

Portable def won't be cheaper than the PS5. Look at the Switch 2, that's $450.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

Portable def won't be cheaper than the PS5.

It would have weaker hardware, covered by a smaller screen. As for price, the RAM might force their hands on that.

 

[saintjules]

Plus it's not like you have to buy it bundled with the new console. You can wait a few months for the prices of the drives to drop to reasonable levels.

 

[CentralScrutinizer]

Yes, with the purchase of a $100 disc drive attachment. I don't think PS6 will come packed with a disc drive at all and everyone who wants one will have to order it through Sony (so they don't have to give retailers any cuts either).

 

[Kupfer]

Sony will make you pay for playing discs.

The drive will be an accessory that is not included with the PS6, and its use will likely be behind a paywall, also known as a subscription or PS+ and some kind of always online.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

Sony will make you pay for playing discs.

The drive will be an accessory that is not included with the PS6, and its use will likely be behind a paywall, also known as a subscription or PS+ and some kind of always online.

Yes, with the purchase of a $100 disc drive attachment. I don't think PS6 will come packed with a disc drive at all and everyone who wants one will have to order it through Sony (so they don't have to give retailers any cuts either).

Both of you are acting like retailers would be willing to stock Digital PS6 without the disc drives. Sony can't have the physical store revolting on them.

 

[lifa-cobex]

I would be surprised if the ps6 HAS a disc option.

 

[spookyfish]

Do we think the PS6 will run *ANY* discs?

 

[Kupfer]

Both of you are acting like retailers would be willing to stock Digital PS6 without the disc drives. Sony can't have the physical store revolting on them.

They paved the way for this in the current generation.

Discs that don't contain the full game and just start the download? Check.

Digital Edition of the console established as standard? Check.

Optional drive only usable with one-time online registration - server-dependent, so to speak? Check

It's not going to get any better in the future. Sony is shifting the entire perception, and successfully so - they are making customers increasingly dependent on their 'services' and people are just eating it up.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

Optional drive only usable with one-time online registration - server-dependent, so to speak? Check

Sony removed that, actually. It is a hassle that Sony doesn't want to deal with. It was a neat experiment but it ended up not worth it for them.
Edit: Apparently it only existed for USA because of a law. And at the very least the European PS5 doesn't have the restriction anymore. So your interpretation is wrong.

Sony is a lot of things, but Sony is not Microsoft. Sony wouldn't force things against the will of their customers, because they know the customer can always go elsewhere. Only Microsoft would act like their customers would never leave.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Both of you are acting like retailers would be willing to stock Digital PS6 without the disc drives. Sony can't have the physical store revolting on them.

That's exactly why the PS6 will still have a drive available as an option.

 

[Kupfer]

Sony removed that, actually. It is a hassle that Sony doesn't want to deal with. It was a neat experiment but it ended up not worth it for them.
Edit: Apparently it only existed for USA because of a law. And at the very least the European PS5 doesn't have the restriction anymore.

Oh I didn't know, any official info on that?

So your interpretation is wrong.

Not so fast

Sony is a lot of things, but Sony is not Microsoft. Sony wouldn't force things against the will of their customers, because they know the customer can always go elsewhere. Only Microsoft would act like their customers would never leave.

You can't be serious with that. Cloud saves, online play, automatic updates, all behind a paywall.

 

[Bojji]

I would be surprised if the ps6 HAS a disc option.

Do we think the PS6 will run *ANY* discs?

PS7 won't have discs but PS6 will have it (at least option) for sure.

 

[Matt_Fox]

I seriously doubt there is any need for two separate versions of the peripheral blu ray drive. Sony would see that as a waste. So the smart money would be that PS6 can be bought with an optional blu-Ray drive, and it would be the same as the one for PS5.

There's zero chance of that imho. The PS5 disc drive add-on is in the shape and form factor of the PS5 - white curved plastic designed specifically to click into the PS5.

The PS6 will have a completely different form factor (as all PlayStations have had) and they'll be a brand new disc drive add-on for it, which Sony will be happy to sell you. (As an optimist hopefully the drive itself might be improved, for example a quieter spin or Dolby Vision playback for 4K movies which the current drive doesn't support).

 

[PaintTinJr]

Sony will make you pay for playing discs.

The drive will be an accessory that is not included with the PS6, and its use will likely be behind a paywall, also known as a subscription or PS+ and some kind of always online.

They can try, but just because they have no viable external competition coming from Xbox doesn't mean they aren't in competition with their previous self.

They saw exactly how the Xbox One landed by messaging, no one is trying to repeat that train wreck IMO, even if they want to lean customers more in that direction they'll know from XB1 and the collapse of Walkman you have to let the customer get to the digital setup by themselves and not make them feel like a cornered animal when they get there.

In an ideal world Sony would take an approach to let people rip their old ps4 games and earlier via PC PlayStation App and Blu-ray drive, and transfer them via usb - like Audio CD, - to use on PS6, and open it up to PS5 game ripping when PS5 to PS6 cross-gen ends.

That sense of freedom that the Audio CD provides alongside digital download audio has arguably been the reason the digital audio download market is so widely accepted even by us that still only buy music on physical media.

 

[GymWolf]

Lol with how sony is pushing digital i would be surprised if ps6 can read ps6 discs...

 

[asdasdasdbb]

They can try, but just because they have no viable external competition coming from Xbox doesn't mean they aren't in competition with their previous self.

They saw exactly how the Xbox One landed by messaging, no one is trying to repeat that train wreck IMO, even if they want to lean customers more in that direction they'll know from XB1 and the collapse of Walkman you have to let the customer get to the digital setup by themselves and not make them feel like a cornered animal when they get there.

The XBone's main problem was that it was more expensive and slower than the PS4... because of the extra cost of Kinect. Had they seperated Kinect at the start, MS would have been able to get everything else. Now it doesn't matter anyway since GAAS has taken over.

 

[Nankatsu]

It will, but you will have to pay for a separate disk drive.

That's pretty obvious considering what they did with PS5 Pro.

Specially because it will allow them to reduce the price point at launch.

If they go full digital, well, I think that may be the trigger for me, in order to finally move 100% to PC.

 

[Matt_Fox]

If they go full digital, well, I think that may be the trigger for me, in order to finally move 100% to PC.

PC, which is also all digital?

 

[Nankatsu]

PC, which is also all digital?

Yap, like, not only are digital games cheaper on PC, but you can also get faster and better discounts on recent titles.

You see Sony allowing that with their own ecosystem? I don't.

One of the reasons I like physical games is because I can get nice promotions in some stores in my country, and in case I wanna ditch the game, I can still make some money with it.

Plus, it's something that I physicaly actually own.

If it comes down to having two platforms that go full digital - PC and possibly PS6 - I'll just go PC where I already have a digital library and offers way better deals at least

 

[lifa-cobex]

PS7 won't have discs but PS6 will have it (at least option) for sure.

Why do you think they would have to have it?

(Not being argumentative. Just genuinely curious.)
As the PS5 was was essentially the system for the option. I think PS6 is where they make the move to kill it off <insert Sony reason = profit>

 

[Crayon]

Could be a separate disc drive purchase, but if it can play digital ps5 games, it'll play discs too.

 

[Mozza]

It is my opinion that portable PS6 is a marketing mistake. Instead, they should just call it a portable PS5. The goal here is to release hardware that would actually be cheaper than regular PS5 on launch and thus basically replace the old position of the PS5 Slim.

The amount of games that a Portable PS5 can run would not be much less than if you say it was a PS6. At least not for 5 years. So there is no point causing confusion and future issues when actual PS6-specific games come out after a decade and Sony realized it couldn't run on the portable. Just make the portable an extension of the PS5 family and everyone would be happier.

It's the only way this will be a good investment. As making a handkeld that plays current generation games is a waste of time. Unless of course they go for the portal again.

 

[subzero83]

Yea most likely will have a disk drive.

 

[rsouzadk]

DOA if not.

 

[An Corp]

It'll launch similarly to the PS5. Two options: disc version and a disc-less version.

 

[//DEVIL//]

Not only it will run the PS5 disks. But I am also positive it will come just like the PS5 right now. digital only with the ability to add on a disc drive as an option. and I am sure it will use the same PS5 disc drive you can buy now.

I don't think Sony wants to invest in a new R&D for a PS6-specific disc drive when this one will do the same job.

Controllers on the other hand.. its gonna be a modified new controller with TMR..


Just my educated guess anyway.

 

[memoryman3]

PS5 and PS4 discs for sure. First PlayStation since the PS3 to be backwards compatible with the two prior generations.

 

[CLW]

I the PS6 won't run ANY discs