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Supergirl | Official Teaser Trailer

Reizo Ryuu said:
In the comic she has to deal with someone using one of the weaknesses against her, and it isn't kryptonite.
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My point is, does every space bar have a "break glass in case of rampaging Kryptonian" contingency, or is it a reasonable thing to be so unaware of them that you'd try to fist fight one?

Obviously this probably varies based on the sun in the area, though that is such a variable thing, and easily countered by sun lamps of various colors as we've seen time and time again, I gotta imagine galactic lore has a lot to say about these people that become godlike with a little UV A exposure.
 
spookyfish said:
"Feastin'"? Gunn's Superman is the lowest box office performer WITHOUT adjusting for inflation. Man of Steel and B v S beat it. And this one has the "premium ticket prices" that the other two didn't have.

It may be a good movie, I'm not discrediting that. But did it move the needle? Not even a bit.
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It still got close to Man of Steel and of course a Batman/Superman movie should beat a Superman movie. Even Wonder Woman was advertised for it. Forbes and Bloomberg said the new movie did 100m profit so it didn't do badly.
 
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VulcanRaven said:
It still got close to Man of Steel and of course Batman/Superman movie should beat a Superman movie. Even Wonder Woman was advertised for it. Forbes and Bloomberg said the new movie did 100m profit so it didn't do badly.
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That's not saying much in a time where ticket prices are almost double if not triple now.
 
I think the big issue with DCU is that it takes too long to get Batman. DCEU could just press the panic button and introduce him when needed. Now they can't really do that and have to wait for The Batman Part 2. They won't be filming two Batman movies at once.
 
jason10mm said:
My point is, does every space bar have a "break glass in case of rampaging Kryptonian" contingency, or is it a reasonable thing to be so unaware of them that you'd try to fist fight one?
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No, all 3 remaining free kryptonian (humanoids) are on earth, so most of the universe will never meet one.
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
No, all 3 remaining free kryptonian (humanoids) are on earth, so most of the universe will never meet one.
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But were kryptonians confined to Krypton? If so, why? Quarantined, never desired to leave, feared leaving (spaceophobia?)? The galaxy as presented in these films is usually a heavily travelled one, and Kryptonians are technologically advanced, aware of other planets and the affect of different suns such that Jor-El can target a specific planet he knows Kal-El will THRIVE there regardless (and be genetically compatible with no less), so seems unlikely that NO kryptonian ever travelled around and experienced enough yellow sun exposure to be a heavy bruiser and make a mark. The sentinel space warp event that brings Supes to Earth (and all those kryptonite fragments) is clearly not the norm for the galaxy, Kara just hops a ride on a space bus in the trailer. So unless Krypton is located inside some sort of hostile nebula or something making visiting exceedingly difficult, it seems like knowledge of them and their power set should be relatively common knowledge. They aren't the Mongol Horde coming over the horizon against unsuspecting farmers, more like famous footballers showing up to some pick-up game saying "hey guys, wanna play?"
 
jason10mm said:
But were kryptonians confined to Krypton? If so, why? Quarantined, never desired to leave, feared leaving (spaceophobia?)? The galaxy as presented in these films is usually a heavily travelled one, and Kryptonians are technologically advanced, aware of other planets and the affect of different suns such that Jor-El can target a specific planet he knows Kal-El will THRIVE there regardless (and be genetically compatible with no less), so seems unlikely that NO kryptonian ever travelled around and experienced enough yellow sun exposure to be a heavy bruiser and make a mark. The sentinel space warp event that brings Supes to Earth (and all those kryptonite fragments) is clearly not the norm for the galaxy, Kara just hops a ride on a space bus in the trailer. So unless Krypton is located inside some sort of hostile nebula or something making visiting exceedingly difficult, it seems like knowledge of them and their power set should be relatively common knowledge. They aren't the Mongol Horde coming over the horizon against unsuspecting farmers, more like famous footballers showing up to some pick-up game saying "hey guys, wanna play?"
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It's always been a weird thing to the story where Krypton was this incredibly advanced civilisation but basically every Kryptonian lived on Krypton and they only had the ability to send two Kryptonians (Kal and Kara) off of the planet rather than having plenty of spaceships sitting around. I don't think there's one fixed reason for it but if I remember right there have been versions where Kryptonian society previously had colonies on a bunch of planets but gradually returned to focusing on just Krypton. I think there might have also been something about Krypton's gravity being much stronger and that limited their ability to explore beyond their planet. But there's not really a single, definitive answer because the core of the story was these advanced aliens sending their son off to another planet before their world exploded and everything since then has been kind of bolted on to work around that.
 
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DKehoe said:
It's always a weird thing to the story where Krypton was this incredibly advanced civilisation but basically every Kryptonian lived on Krypton and they only had the ability to send two Kryptonians (Kal and Kara) off of the planet rather than having plenty of spaceships sitting around. I don't think there's one fixed reason for it but if I remember right there have been versions where Krypton previously had colonies on a bunch of planets but gradually returned to focusing on just Krypton. I think there might have also been something about Krypton's gravity being much stronger and that limited their ability to explore beyond their planet. But there's not really a single, definitive answer because the core of the story was these advanced aliens sending their son off to another planet before their world exploded and everything since then has been kind of bolted on to work around that.
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This is why I don't really want too detailed an explanation (or at least I'm willing to have that background adjusted from time to time) so long as the story doesn't then go on and DIRECTLY CONTRADICT IT'S LORE in a "have my cake and eat it too" moment. You can't have Krypton be a technological marvel with a galaxy spanning empire AND have a bunch of roughnecks casually walk up to one in a bar for your "girlboss" fight scene, ignorant of how she's about to hand you your ass. So hopefully the writers understand this and keep an internally consistent world within the film, even if it jars a bit with Superman 2025 or whatever.

But comics are messy, especially ones written by hundreds of folks over nigh a century. I think Gunn understands that they are fluid and will strive to keep each film as self contained as possible to limit inconsistencies and retconning. Hopefully a big dose of "unreliable narrator" as the device to give us backstory exposition as well, since that can be more easily tweaked to fit a new story.
 
I don't care much for superhero films but I thought Superman was much better than I expected it to be, this looks like it's got a similar sort of vibe. Will check it out if it reviews ok for sure.
 
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just say that Krypton was isolationist, and they just stayed on their planet till they all exploded. Zod was the meanie cause he wanted to be more military focused and expand.
 
GateofD said:
just say that Krypton was isolationist, and they just stayed on their planet till they all exploded. Zod was the meanie cause he wanted to be more military focused and expand.
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As a superficial handwave that's a fine explanation. It won't really hold up under long examination in a novel (not that, for whatever reason, superheros get explored in that medium) or even in a comic that has a big "kryptonians in spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace" aspect because as soon as you have a dense, well populated galaxy with easy FTL travel, space cops, galactic wars, etc then the whole notion that Kryptonians DELIBERATELY confined themselves to the planet where they are their weakest, yet they are acutely aware of the possibilities of other suns and other peoples, and then they commit to a mass suicide pact staying on Krypton with ZERO contingency that Kal-El might be correct, it all falls apart.

I'd rather the notion that Krypton was WAAAAAAAAAAAAY in the past, didn't have FTL, and Kal-El spent a MILLION YEARS in stasis till he came to Earth, such that the australopithecine type ancestors (unless you ascribe to the notion that homo sapiens is that old) evolved to modern humans. This way Kryptonians, intergalactic or not, are just a distant folktale and the current galaxy sprung up without them. Any surviving kryptonians are refugees of stasis pods, dimensional rifts, etc, accounting for their rarity.
 
I do like the stasis idea. Isn't that how they do it sometimes. Kal-el was sent as a baby, then supergirl was sent after, but her pod malfunctioned and didn't arrive till much later and she aged too. Also can fit in with Braniac being this just high being that's been doing his thing forever.
 
jason10mm said:
it all falls apart.
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you should look at it from the point of view of how old maps here used to be, "here be dragons".
They conquered, but they were beaten/pushed back at some point, but that didn't end their reputation as "dragons", and only someone with a death wish would go hunting dragons; even if they are weakest on krypton, their tech can still kill the strongest of beings; the religious nutters gained control at some point and turned krypton isolationist, creating three kinds of people:
Those who know of kryptonians and stay away
Those who who only know of them as myths
And then the 99% of the universe who doesn't know they ever existed.
 
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Reizo Ryuu said:
you should look at it from the point of view of how old maps here used to be, "here be dragons".
They conquered, but they were beaten/pushed back at some point, but that didn't end their reputation as "dragons", and only someone with a death wish would go hunting dragons; even if they are weakest on krypton, their tech can still kill the strongest of beings; the religious nutters gained control at some point and turned krypton isolationist, creating three kinds of people:
Those who know of kryptonians and stay away
Those who who only know of them as myths
And then the 99% of the universe who doesn't know they ever existed.
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I'd rather kryptonians be like vampires, everyone sorta knows about them, no one really expects to ever meet one, and there is lore about what does and doesn't kill them, some of which is true and most is not.

Invincible dances around this stuff, at least the show. I'm disappointed that anti-Vultrimite knowledge isn't more widely discussed, given their rapacious nature. They seem to be sleeping on that "i hid all their weaknesses in these books" sub-plot for a few seasons now.
 
My expectation bar was as low as it could be and it still managed to limbo comfortably under it. Who is this movie even made for? It just looks like a boring sequel to Guardians of the Galaxy. The Supergirl from The Flash movie had a ton more charisma, this one looks bored every second of it.
 
Guardians to me is about a team of goofy characters working together all with different personalities representing a type of comedy really. This doesn't seem like that to me in any way, so I think the Guadian's comparison is pretty shallow.

If it was more like Guardians that would be a good thing.. it appears to be an adventure involving Supergirl running around with a terrible child actor at this point.
 
Been trying to go media blackout for this movie but got hit in the face with a bunch of Lobo reactions as soon as I opened Twitter... the hype is real.




The man was born for this role, as opposed to Aquaman FFS...
 
Fake said:
I foresee Lobo doing the heavy lift.
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I'm curious where he even fits in this story. I'm guessing he replaces the pirate guys, thus is antagonistic to Supergirl, hunting her through the film. TBH i feel like he will just take time away from properly setting up some of places supergirl has to go.
 
Lambogenie said:
Will say it again, I really dont like her face...
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I kind of agree. There's something....unlikeable about her. I'm not even sure what it is exactly, just a feeling. Almost like a Brie Larson in Captain Marvel thing, where Brie just seemed bland and unlikeable in the role. I'm getting the same feeling here from everything I've seen so far.
 
Mengy said:
I kind of agree. There's something....unlikeable about her. I'm not even sure what it is exactly, just a feeling. Almost like a Brie Larson in Captain Marvel thing, where Brie just seemed bland and unlikeable in the role. I'm getting the same feeling here from everything I've seen so far.
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It's female Will Poulter.
 
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