DenchDeckard
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That's an absolute incorrect bit of information. We have seen an insane increase in pricing in the last 6 months but pricing has been pretty stable for a while.
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Sony hikes up PS5 pricing in April: PS5 – $649.99, PS5 Digital Edition – $599.99 PS5 Pro – $899.99, Portal $249.99
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That's an absolute incorrect bit of information. We have seen an insane increase in pricing in the last 6 months but pricing has been pretty stable for a while.
MisterXDTV
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Tobimacoss
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Helix isn't just one singular console though, it's a family of devices including cheaper variants.
$799 minimum for PS6 Orion without a disc drive or vertical stand.
PS5 disc and Series X disc, are same price in the U.S. but Series X becomes 70 pounds cheaper in UK, and 50 Euros cheaper in EU, and few thousand yen cheaper in Japan, except for the Japan only model.
You mean the thing that always happened in every gen before this one? Man, some people are really with their throats sore because they had Sony's cock there for way too long.
poppabk
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That's why I think we see shrinkflation rather than rapidly escalating prices.
This isn't just driven by the prices of RAM and all the stuff fueled by AI. It's also being driven by Sony's failures through their GAAS initiatives. And just greed. Aren't their profit margins like all time records right now? I don't know how much of that is on the hardware side, but I am guessing they are just looking to maintain a fat margin.
Either way, they really haven't given me a reason to want to get a PS6. I know they are pulling back their exclusives from PC. Maybe one day I will look at getting a PS6 second hand if they have enough exclusives. Otherwise I'll ride with my PS5 Pro that I bought used for $600 with a disc drive and start buying more on Steam and GOG. My PC is probably midrange at best, but I just picked up 10 games I am interested in during the Steam spring sale that will run on it 1080p or 1440p at 60 fps. Yes, they are older games, but they're more interesting than what Sony is doing. Playstation is just a harder and harder sell these days.
PS6 is going to be $1000 and there's no way I am paying that when PS5 will get games for another 8 years most likely.
Either way, they really haven't given me a reason to want to get a PS6. I know they are pulling back their exclusives from PC. Maybe one day I will look at getting a PS6 second hand if they have enough exclusives. Otherwise I'll ride with my PS5 Pro that I bought used for $600 with a disc drive and start buying more on Steam and GOG. My PC is probably midrange at best, but I just picked up 10 games I am interested in during the Steam spring sale that will run on it 1080p or 1440p at 60 fps. Yes, they are older games, but they're more interesting than what Sony is doing. Playstation is just a harder and harder sell these days.
PS6 is going to be $1000 and there's no way I am paying that when PS5 will get games for another 8 years most likely.
MisterXDTV
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Tobimacoss
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Cloud Gaming won't hurt you if you can't afford the console. It's awesome in many ways over Native. Sony now needs to release a $99 PSTV streaming device.
DenchDeckard
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Man, these shills are desperate to see Sony repeat every single mistake Microsoft made.
This i 100 percent I agree with. MS put themselves in the position that caused them to have to release everything everywhere.
I think it's good that Sony are pulling away from PC. I just want them to offset some of this bad news with some good news like, let retailers sell digital keys for their games, so we can get more options for purchasing games.
Making cloud saves free. I dunno, maybe some other prosumer stuff.
I've got a pro and an amazing PC, I want games on steam but I also want awesome Sony created games and we need Sony to have a strong ecosystem / platform so they can provide that healthily to us fans of their games
I hope they can get back on track with their single player stuff. So, I'm fully in the camp of whatever they need to do, do it. Just think of us a bit and improve stuff.
As for these Xbox shills, it's painful to me because I did respect some of these people at some point years ago but I've accepted they do want Sony to make the same mistakes of MS.
I just hope the Sony suits can find their magic somehow. Because this market / industry is in shakey waters right now.
unlurkified
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Hey guys, look on the bright side, $650 and $900 now is still cheaper than the launch $599 PS3 which was $960 adjusted for inflation.
Midn1ght
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Small John McCarthy
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I've been a console gamer since the MegaDrive. Pretty sure that ends now.
I'm shopping for a 7800xt and that will do for a while.
I'm shopping for a 7800xt and that will do for a while.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
You still have to buy the games. You would purchase a game, but then can only play it via streaming. If you already have a digital library but can't afford a console, well you now have to pay a monthly fee to stream your games.
Great if you like that, but if that was the future then I'd rather chew off my dick than be part of it.
LiquidMetal14
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People need to start wrapping their heads around something like this or maybe slightly cheaper IN THE CURRENT TECH HW CLIMATE. This may change, even if not initially, due to IF or when prices stabalize.
PauloRoberto
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Its curious and funny seeing so many users having a fake meltdown 
Tobimacoss
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You buy the games into the ecosystem. You can stream them, and play Natively on the future whenever the devices become cheaper or you are able to afford the hardware for Native play.
Sony already charged $10 month for online multiplayer, they should add Cloud Gaming to that tier for Buy and Stream, release a streaming device for TV, let users still buy into the ecosystem.
What would be even better is a Sony PC store with Cross Buy licensing between PC, Console, Cloud.
nial
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You guarantee something that Sony itself straight up said to investors? It's not a matter of component availability, it's a matter of component cost.
Steve Holt
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The new Xbox Series CoPilot is going to be £2000+ at this rate isn't it.
RAM, NAND and I believe AMD is raising prices as well due to AI demand for their CPU/GPUs and not wanting semi-custom business to drag their profit margins down.
yogaflame
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Yes there is Ai boom to blame but blame also MS blunders. Since no decent competition and xbox lose the console war and surrendered, Sony can charge what ever they want.
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IDKFA
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I don't think devices will become cheaper. These prices are now the new standard.
I could see Sony combine the price for cloud and online, but no way will it just be $10 per month.
No. Not for me. Honestly, with the way the gaming industry is heading, I might just go retro only and take up a new hobby.
kungfuian
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Not to be all doom and gloom but it looks like the whole HD console space is just gonna collapse of it's own weight.
With these new increases console sales are gonna crash hard. They were already slowing down and at/near saturation levels before. Seriously how many more sales do you think you are gonna get with prices like that? Shit, prices were already high due to the whole premium brand repositioning thing they've been angling for. Whole thing is way out of hand. You seriously have to wonder what the viability of the product offering is at this point.
What's crazy is the basic economics of the console space hasn't really changed all these years. Consoles have to be mass market items or the whole thing just doesn't work. That's the economy of scale required to sell enough software, to make your platform viable for developers. Seriously; who are they planning on selling software to if the install base is not drawing in those mass market customers? Who is gonna buy the games? You know the expensive ones they already are not selling enough of to break even. It doesn't make any sense.
I tell you what. Some smart company is gonna come in and fill the lower end mass market space Sony and Microsoft seem content to leave behind. We saw that Wii knock off thing do great this last holiday. Maybe time for Roblox to partner up with a hardware manufacturer and jump into the console game? Bet a cheap $200-300 Roblox Box would sell like hotcakes.
With these new increases console sales are gonna crash hard. They were already slowing down and at/near saturation levels before. Seriously how many more sales do you think you are gonna get with prices like that? Shit, prices were already high due to the whole premium brand repositioning thing they've been angling for. Whole thing is way out of hand. You seriously have to wonder what the viability of the product offering is at this point.
What's crazy is the basic economics of the console space hasn't really changed all these years. Consoles have to be mass market items or the whole thing just doesn't work. That's the economy of scale required to sell enough software, to make your platform viable for developers. Seriously; who are they planning on selling software to if the install base is not drawing in those mass market customers? Who is gonna buy the games? You know the expensive ones they already are not selling enough of to break even. It doesn't make any sense.
I tell you what. Some smart company is gonna come in and fill the lower end mass market space Sony and Microsoft seem content to leave behind. We saw that Wii knock off thing do great this last holiday. Maybe time for Roblox to partner up with a hardware manufacturer and jump into the console game? Bet a cheap $200-300 Roblox Box would sell like hotcakes.
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Alex Scott
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899.99$ PS6
1499.99$ XBOX
Zathalus
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Still more expensive. A PS5 equivilant PC is around $1000, a PS5 Pro build is around $1300.
$600 is still alright compared to that. Not great, but PC pricing isn't exactly great now either.
That's for buying/building an entire new PC though, if you don't need to buy new RAM or a SSD than PC upgrades look great by comparison.
SegaSnatcher
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It's pretty clear Sony knows this will have an impact on sales and that is why I'm 100% convinced they will slow production down drastically for PS5 this year and will prioritize a 2027 release for PS6. Essentially, all hands on deck.
If a delay for PS6 release was happening then they wouldn't raise the PS5 prices so significantly if they had to rely on PS5 sales for the next couple of years.
If a delay for PS6 release was happening then they wouldn't raise the PS5 prices so significantly if they had to rely on PS5 sales for the next couple of years.
DAHGAMING
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I Got a pro back in December for £560, I havnt realy used it yet but knew it would be the last time at that price so thought I would get it as its going to be the go to console for a while especialy as PSSR2 is decent. These new prices are mental, they will loose there core audiance at that price, they will get away with it this gen as many units have already been sold but next gen could be a disaster. Theres alot of fatigue in the big casual games like FIFA, COD, Battlefield and now even Fortnite, so even that audiance wont bother with next gen if the prices are going to be closer to 1k .
splattered
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Sony are not going to price the ps6 the same price as the ps5 pro. What?
Hmmm wondering if I should trade in my og ps5 with disc drive so I'm still good if something happens to my pro anni....
Thebonehead
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You're better placed to answer this. If Sony delays the PS6 by two years, will they have to pay AMD for the R&D and wafer starts they reserved? I read about this before for something else and delay can run into hundreds of millions
I guess if they are thinking that then Sony is likely calculating that paying a withdrawal penalty to AMD is cheaper than launching a PS6 that loses $300 per unit due to RAM/Silicon prices.
TSMC is being forced into the same spot price on the helium market as everyone else so prices have nearly quadrupled for that. I read somewhere that this is only like a $300 cost increase per wafer, but that TSMC and Samsung are adding a 10-15% surcharge i.e. $3,000 to $4,500 to Wafers as they're locked in a bidding war with supplies from Tanzania and USA and are pricing that in - How true that is I don't know.
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SupremeJ
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Tobimacoss
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PS6 has the Canis dockable handheld. 16 CU RDNA5 GPU, 4 Zen 6C cores and 2 Zen 6LP cores for CPU, 24 GB LPDDR5X RAM.
The handheld would act as the entry point console.
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SupremeJ
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It's not PS6
MisterXDTV
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what?
Lokaum D+
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why buy brand new if you can buy used for great prices ?
there is no excuse to go consoles right now aside from "exclusives", at least not imo.
J Required
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Yes it is.
I can see why people could think that way. Pc hardware manufacturers dont have the lifeboat of software and online paywall to be able to offset some cost. You think valve is giving anything to parts manufacturers for running games from their storefront?
Tobimacoss
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It very much is a PS6 in every aspect. Like it or not, that's the baseline console for next gen.
AMD could theoretically take the 3nm wafer capacity and use it in other products but I'm not sure the demand is high enough since most of their flagship datacenter stuff is actually on 2nm. So there would probably be some penalty that Sony would have to pay, and wafer prices for a 2028/2029 launch would be even higher.
The only reason for a delay would be hoping for a RAM/NAND price collapse, but as I said before no one knows if/when/by how much prices will come down. So a delay is a bit of a gamble and the safe strategy is actually to launch in 2027 as planned.
Shadowstar39
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That base ps5 at 650 is without a disc drive right? So with a disc drive it's 750... Let that sink in. Most early adopters got thr ps5 for 499 with a built in disc drive. No way would I buy any console without removable media.
SupremeJ
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This spec is only about 5 times weaker than the desktop PS6, how can we call this a nextgen base? The difference is bigger than between the Series X and S.
PauloRoberto
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No, 599 digital, 650 with disc drive. (US$)
nial
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CPU/GPU architecture dictates what is a PS6.
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Tobimacoss
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That's just the way the cookie crumbles. The specs are more powerful than a Series S, with more advanced upscaling tech and they're fine for 1080p.