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Nixxes description on Sony studio page was changed in March to highlight PC ports
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diffusionx
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If Sony is moving away from PC ports, then they don't need Nixxes anymore. Probably would be fine selling them off, or turning them independent.
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splattered
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Sony arent giving up on pc ports they're just gearing up for next gen PS6 and trying to prioritize launch games. Duhr.
Once launch dust settles they will prob reorganize and start rolling out the pc/xb/sw ports again.
Once launch dust settles they will prob reorganize and start rolling out the pc/xb/sw ports again.
midnightAI
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Receipts? Come on, proof they are an annoyance to Sony
Does using words like 'I think' and 'the sense I'm getting' sound like someone that is 100% confident in what they claim is true?
Fabieter
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They still do pc ports with gaas games and those guys fan help with other projects as well. They are a really great studio and will be helpful either way.
Merline
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Valve is slowly encroaching on Sony's territory with the Steam Machine 2 and Steam Deck 2. For this exact reason, Sony will no longer port single-player games to PC. Xbox Helix is coming too, and keeping PC ports would just devalue their consoles.
Next year, the PS6 and a handheld are launching, which makes strong exclusives more critical than ever. You can't promote your own devices while giving your exclusives to competitors. Sony knows exactly what's at stake.
Notice how PC gamers never ask Valve to port Counter-Strike, Deadlock, Half Life: Alyx, or Dota to PlayStation, yet Sony is expected to port all its games to PC.
Next year, the PS6 and a handheld are launching, which makes strong exclusives more critical than ever. You can't promote your own devices while giving your exclusives to competitors. Sony knows exactly what's at stake.
Notice how PC gamers never ask Valve to port Counter-Strike, Deadlock, Half Life: Alyx, or Dota to PlayStation, yet Sony is expected to port all its games to PC.
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poodaddy
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midnightAI
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Exactly, what if Schreier just had the info slightly incorrect and the word from Sony is no first party studio other than Nixxes is porting games to PC? So single player games could still come to PC but only if Nixxes is doing that port. It's a get out of jail free card for Schreier if that is the case or that would be his excuse at least.
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Topher
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HeisenbergFX4
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Does Sony need Nixxes to port live service games and his wording But I think the sense I'm getting is that they're backing away from putting their exclusive console stuff like traditional single-player stuff on PC is not a "take it to the bank" type of statement in my eyes
Fabieter
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They dont need nixxes for doing pc versions of gaas games but it gonna free up alot of resources for the main team.
Tr 2013 and both sequels were handeld like this. Its smart to have a smoother launch for all platforms
Topher
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Sure.....if his info is wrong then anything is possible.
Hedging his bets, sure. But Jason isn't one to just say something like that willy nilly without there being something concrete behind it.
As I pointed out above, he is more adamant about it in his bluesky posts.
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The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Topher
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Has been a lively discussion the last few days. Takes two to tango.
poodaddy
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You know damn good and well he doesn't have shit for receipts, knowledge, or just intelligence or thoughts in general. Just another hateful idiot yelling about his toys online and hoping people lose their jobs over platform sovereignty.
Like I said, pathetic. Yes
yogaflame
, I'm talking about you, wouldn't want you to think I'm talking shit without directly addressing your weak, immature, pitiful ass, you sad little man child.
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HeisenbergFX4
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Without a doubt he has heard something but also with his wording means he can't be wrong no matter what happens unless its specifically a Saros port
yogaflame
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Ehem 3 years of peanut pc sales.
Topher
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If there is a PC port of a single player game going forward, Schrierer is going to have egg on his face. I think Schrierer would have emphasized that the ports were still a possibility if he really felt that was the case.
Now that I think of it, I'd love to see such a port just so we can point and laugh at his smug face.
Topher
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So far, Jason is wrong on the thing he was 'adamant' about. The Saros director hasn't come out and said no and hasn't said yes. They want everyone to buy the PS5 version, which is to be expected. Like Rockstar with GTA6 they want that double dip money.
Housemarque On If There Are Any Plans To Bring Saros To PC, Like Returnal
You know we had to ask.
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Gonzito
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Man you can't be serious with this comment
BlownUpRich
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They'll be porting the Live-service games to PC as they'll still be multiplatform in the future. Not single-player ones.
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Topher
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What? Not confirming or denying anything doesn't prove Jason wrong my man.
jm89
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Ther are other uses for nixxes though.
The obvious one is gaas ports to pc, we already know they help other sony studios also they could i suppose be used to port ps exclusives to the ps handheld.
lastmessiah
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Too bad Sony doesn't have strong exclusives.Valve is slowly encroaching on Sony's territory with the Steam Machine 2 and Steam Deck 2. For this exact reason, Sony will no longer port single-player games to PC. Xbox Helix is coming too, and keeping PC ports would just devalue their consoles.
Next year, the PS6 and a handheld are launching, which makes strong exclusives more critical than ever. You can't promote your own devices while giving your exclusives to competitors. Sony knows exactly what's at stake.
Notice how PC gamers never ask Valve to port Counter-Strike, Deadlock, Half Life: Alyx, or Dota to PlayStation, yet Sony is expected to port all its games to PC.
DaciaJC
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Notice how PC gamers never ask Valve to port Counter-Strike, Deadlock, Half Life: Alyx, or Dota to PlayStation, yet Sony is expected to port all its games to PC.
Huh?
Why would PC gamers be expected to advocate for console ports? Have Playstation fans actually been the ones gallantly leading the drive for PC ports of Sony games this entire time? Your comparison makes no sense.
PS gamers absolutely could petition Valve to port their games to Playstation. By and large, the PC community here seems to be quite a bit more mature compared to the throng of console warrior manbabies infesting the place, so I'm pretty confident in saying that if Valve were to come out tomorrow and announce that they were putting CS2 on PS5, none of us would give half a fuck; because well-adjusted adults don't get upset at the idea of sharing their "toys" with others.
diffusionx
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what gaas ports, Sony is moving away from those too. Fairgame% is almost definitely getting axed and hell I'm not sure the Horizon game is going to make the finished line.
jm89
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How is jason wrong here?So far, Jason is wrong on the thing he was 'adamant' about. The Saros director hasn't come out and said no and hasn't said yes. They want everyone to buy the PS5 version, which is to be expected. Like Rockstar with GTA6 they want that double dip money.
Housemarque On If There Are Any Plans To Bring Saros To PC, Like Returnal
You know we had to ask.
Director didn't confirm anything, your reaching.
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jm89
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We don't know the extent of that though. They will probably wind down from the absurd levels of gaas investment they had before the string of failures, but don't think they said they are completley done with gaas.
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Fabieter
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There is no way they back out of gaas games completely.
So its no problem to stop porting sp games
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Topher
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The Blue sky post where you say he's adamant, he specifically says "when Housemarque starts doing press for Saros and someone asks if they have plans to bring it to PC and they say no". Well... the director has not come out and say no. Isn't he then wrong about that?
Cakeboxer
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You can debate this endlessly, but in the end the only thing that really helps is waiting and seeing. Sony is most likely not going to come out and say "That's it, no more PC games." But there's probably some truth to the rumors, so i have no doubt that Sony has put everything on hold for now. But I don't think it's because they're worried about their brand, or disappointed with the Pc sales or trying to keep their fanboys happy.
I'm convinced they're waiting to see how things develop in the future: Hardware prices, Steam Machines and whatever Microsoft is putting together. And honestly, I think that's a smart move, even though I don't see those as a serious threat.
If I had to bet, i'd say this: 1–2 years after the launch of the PS7, it'll become clear that Steam and Microsoft haven't managed to sell even 10 million units combined. Once Sony has built up a healthy user base of a few dozen million, the single player ports will return.
I'm convinced they're waiting to see how things develop in the future: Hardware prices, Steam Machines and whatever Microsoft is putting together. And honestly, I think that's a smart move, even though I don't see those as a serious threat.
If I had to bet, i'd say this: 1–2 years after the launch of the PS7, it'll become clear that Steam and Microsoft haven't managed to sell even 10 million units combined. Once Sony has built up a healthy user base of a few dozen million, the single player ports will return.
Hudo
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Thanks, I've actually forgotten about this (even though I've used it multiple times in the past)They can all disappear if you want
jm89
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Hey says "or maybe when housemarque starts doing press"
He doesn't know how sony will communicate this.
Bernardougf
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Its for gaaaaaasThis was posted on twitter, but went and verified myself.
Here is a screenshot from internet archive of the Nixxes section of page from March 6,
PlayStation Studios | PlayStation
PlayStation Studios defined gaming for generations. Our collective of studios and teams span the globe – and together – advance gaming and the positive impact it has on people’s lives.web.archive.org
Here it is now...
PlayStation Studios | PlayStation
PlayStation Studios defined gaming for generations. Our collective of studios and teams span the globe – and together – advance gaming and the positive impact it has on people’s lives.www.playstation.com
Topher
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No. That was speculation as to how/when it would be revealed. He also said it could be during an investor call.
Bernardougf
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No more than you would suck Nvidia
Edgelord79
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This makes absolutely no sense. Why would primarily PC gamers ask for a game on PC to be ported to a platform they may not play? What is the motive?It's okay when Valve does it!
I mean I doubt anyone would care if they were. It's a non-issue and not comparable.
And there's my point, it's all speculation.. He knows f all about this matter and just as speculative as you or me. Just throw it all at the wall and see what sticks, and he has an out if it's all untrue.
Topher
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Or they could return with another change in leadership. This stuff started with Jim Ryan. Obviously, Nishino seems to have other ideas. How long will Nishino be in charge? SIE has had a bit of a merry-go round in leadership the last 15 years. Either way, keeping Nixxes around indicates to me that Sony isn't divorcing PC entirely, as you've said. Previously, Hulst had pretty much said PC ports would be coming a year or more after launch for PS games. They were fairly consistent with that this generation outside of a couple of exceptions like Demon Souls and Astro Bot. I'll agree with S Simms that Ghost of Yotei is the real first test to this. If we see a PC port this year then all bets are off, imo.
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