Fair play, but how did come to PC?
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Nixxes description on Sony studio page was changed in March to highlight PC ports
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Fair play, but how did come to PC?
Topher
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"Nixxes Software is Handling the Port"
Helldivers 2 For Xbox Series X | S – Everything You Need to Know
Super Earth just got a whole lot bigger. Helldivers II joins the Xbox community with a generously-priced and feature complete port of the co-op shooter.
So factually, Nixxes has ported a live service game.
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Mr Moose
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HeisenbergFX4
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Yeah but Insomniac learned to not deal in absolutes after they put out that Tweet that Spiderman would never come to PC
Cakeboxer
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I think for many fanboys, the platform or the company behind it doesn't really matter. It's more about insecurity, the need for self validation and social recognition and the opportunity to release or relieve aggression, frustration and boredom.
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Topher
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That's a meaningless distinction in this conversation.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No its not. This is about what Nixxes are going to do on PC. You created the thread title my friend
Sanepar
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It will port Saros, Yotei, Wolverine, everything will come soon or later. Their peasants 30 FPS low settings boys are not enough.
Emmy Ator Best
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They need to do it to show they're arguing in good faith. Fanboys are dumb for caring about exclusivity? You first then, let's see Valve back on consoles.
Topher
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You said Nixxes hadn't done any gaas ports and that simply wasn't true. The thread title doesn't change that.
Heck, you replied to about eight people at one time to make that point.
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Puscifer
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For a guy with a Death Stranding avatar there's an irony to this post when that entire games subtext was telling people to stop giving video games this type of energy and to touch grass.
lughnasadh123
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Fabieter
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You said Nixxes hadn't done any gaas ports and that simply wasn't true. The thread title doesn't change that.
Heck, you replied to about eight people at one time to make that point.
I dont get it either. The core argument was they are focusing on porting sp games. The target platform doesnt matter much in that regard.
Ok, it's my fault for not clarifying this but in my defence I have stated this earlier in the thread, the PC version of GAAS games are usually done in parallel with a PlayStation version by the original developers because as we know they are released day and date, so thats why I'm casting doubt on Nixxes doing PC ports of GAAS games in the future as they are not ported after the fact like with a Xbox version
Fabieter
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This is how nixxes operated every single time before sony bought nixxes. They developed the pc version alongside the main development team. So your reasining is off.
Topher
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That's very thin reasoning for casting doubt on live service ports by Nixxes in the future
roosnam1980
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Fabieter
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FH 6 and Fable is scheduled for 2026 on ps5 so iam not so sure about that.
Topher
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Topher - Every time Sony Studio's changes descriptions on the website.
What's the number of this thread on this topic? Have you decided to complete your plan over the weekend? Opened a bottle of good whiskey and decided that goodness shouldn't go to waste?
lol…this is my first thread on the subject bro!
Mayar
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IFireflyl
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This was the original post:
Notice how PC gamers never ask Valve to port Counter-Strike, Deadlock, Half Life: Alyx, or Dota to PlayStation, yet Sony is expected to port all its games to PC.
The issue is that
Merline
made a retarded comment saying there is hypocrisy because PC gamers aren't begging Valve to port their games to a platform the PC gamers aren't playing on. But why the hell would anyone beg a company to release a product somewhere that they wouldn't buy or use the product? It's nonsensical.PC gamers asking Sony to release their games on PC makes sense. Console gamers asking Valve to release their games on consoles makes sense. Console gamers asking a different console maker to release their games on the console they're using makes sense.
What doesn't make sense is someone asking someone else to release their games on a platform the person isn't going to use anyway. Nobody does that, because why the hell would they?
I'm a PC gamer. I'm not going to ask Valve to port their games to consoles because it doesn't benefit me. But if Valve chooses to do that, I'm going to do nothing because I don't give a shit if they release their games to a wider audience, so long as they don't take something away from me to do so.
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Zathalus
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Nixxes ported Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition, Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered, Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart, Horizon Forbidden West Complete Edition, Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut, Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered, Marvel's Spider-Man 2, Death Stranding 2 The Last of Us Part II Remastered, and The Last of Us Part I. All in around five years. Roughly $600 million dollars estimated in revenue just from those games they worked on.
Probably the most profitable Sony studio this generation. So it would seem a bit daft to close them, especially since even if Sony is not going to do any more ports of exclusive single player games going forward they can still use Nixxes for porting live service games. Or even as a support studio since they also did a lot of work on Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered and Saros.
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Trogdor1123
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I thought the revenue was around 1.3 billion or something? I'm probably messing my numbers up?
Zathalus
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That's for all the PC games. I'm just working on stuff Nixxes did. They didn't port Helldivers 2 (to PC) or the God of War games.
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laynelane
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Of interest is the fact that Sony hasn't disavowed this rumour too. I know they don't often address rumours/leaks, but they have (rarely) when something can impact their bottom line. Of course, that can be read the other way too - in that they haven't confirmed this either. Agreed that Jason does seem pretty sure about it, though.
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Merline
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I'm completely right. PC gamers argue that exclusives are outdated and that every game should appear on every platform, yet they have no issue with Valve keeping its entire catalog exclusive. In fact, PC gamers even boycott games simply for being released on a launcher other than Steam. The double standard speaks for itself.This was the original post:
The issue is that
PC gamers asking Sony to release their games on PC makes sense. Console gamers asking Valve to release their games on consoles makes sense. Console gamers asking a different console maker to release their games on the console they're using makes sense.
What doesn't make sense is someone asking someone else to release their games on a platform the person isn't going to use anyway. Nobody does that, because why the hell would they?
I'm a PC gamer. I'm not going to ask Valve to port their games to consoles because it doesn't benefit me. But if Valve chooses to do that, I'm going to do nothing because I don't give a shit if they release their games to a wider audience, so long as they don't take something away from me to do so.
yurinka
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To be specific, Nixxes also worked in the original release of Helldivers 2 supporting with a few testers, and also worked in Concord doing some art support."Nixxes Software is Handling the Port"
Helldivers 2 For Xbox Series X | S – Everything You Need to Know
Super Earth just got a whole lot bigger. Helldivers II joins the Xbox community with a generously-priced and feature complete port of the co-op shooter.gamingbolt.com
So factually, Nixxes has ported a live service game.
Time later after launch, Nixxed did help Arrowhead doing some optimizations for the PC sku of Helldivers 2.
Hadoukens
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Counter Strike = keyboard and mouse gameNotice how PC gamers never ask Valve to port Counter-Strike, Deadlock, Half Life: Alyx, or Dota to PlayStation, yet Sony is expected to port all its games to PC.
Deadlock = arguably the same
Half Life: Alyx = a VR game
DOTA2 = mouse game
Of course nobody is asking for them on either side, what is this post LOL
Portal 2 was on Playstation and so was Orange Box iirc.
I don't even wanna go back and forth with this, it should be obvious nobody really cares either way and probably none of them would sell on Playstation anyway.
Trogdor1123
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Why would they ask for that? That would be for PlayStation fans to ask them to port those games… and they do ask for it, as they should.Valve is slowly encroaching on Sony's territory with the Steam Machine 2 and Steam Deck 2. For this exact reason, Sony will no longer port single-player games to PC. Xbox Helix is coming too, and keeping PC ports would just devalue their consoles.
Next year, the PS6 and a handheld are launching, which makes strong exclusives more critical than ever. You can't promote your own devices while giving your exclusives to competitors. Sony knows exactly what's at stake.
Notice how PC gamers never ask Valve to port Counter-Strike, Deadlock, Half Life: Alyx, or Dota to PlayStation, yet Sony is expected to port all its games to PC.
Thats not hypocrisy
Fess
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Why generalize like that? "PC gamers" is a gigantic group of people and you speak like you think everybody think the same way.
I couldn't care less if a PC game on Steam goes to another launcher or is ported to a console or mobile or refrigerator, as long as I can still keep playing the game myself.
Why would I care??
And the request to have games on Steam comes from how Steam is simply better than the other launchers, more stable, better UI, works on Steam Deck, easier to mod, etc.
But personally I don't care which PC store a game is on, I launch everything from the same menu in Playnite by clicking play. Only reason I know something is on Gamepass instead of Steam is by looking at the design of the Achievement window.
Edgelord79
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I'm all for it!
BruhTrips
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if SAROS gets ported at the earliest its a 2028 port so Jason can say shit changed nah he'll be proven wrong if Yotei shows upIf there is a PC port of a single player game going forward, Schrierer is going to have egg on his face. I think Schrierer would have emphasized that the ports were still a possibility if he really felt that was the case.
Now that I think of it, I'd love to see such a port just so we can point and laugh at his smug face.
Hector Hall
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There will be GAS PC ports, they can still do some of those.
Topher
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His rep will take a hit either way. In which case, S Simms assertion that he didn't really know will have been proven correct. Time will tell. If I were a betting man though, my money would be on not seeing single player PC ports for many years.
At the same time, if all my past "bets" on the gaming industry were real money......I'd be a poor man right now. lol
Senua
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Fabieter
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Yes he cant just get awas with "things charged two years later". So as of right now its save to assume that things changed at sony.
Topher
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I don't recall any PC gamers having a problem when the Half-life, Portal, Left 4 Dead, Team Fortress or other franchises were ported to console. So factually, your assertion that Valve keeps their "entire catalog exclusive" is simply not true. The fight for exclusives has always been a fight between consoles. The boycotting of games that launched on EGS was in line with despising those types of practices in exclusivity, especially money hatted timed exclusives.
Sanepar
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Keep dreaming. Sooner they release PS6 there will be late ports of Yotei, Saros and Wolverine.
Topher
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Unless he comes back later and says things changed before they actually changed, I guess. But after the fact, nah....that shit ain't going to fly.
BruhTrips
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Insomniac when outright asked out a PC port of Spidey they said it was never gonna happen so that makes no sense.
It's beautiful, such naivety
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