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Digital Foundry revisit Oblivion Remastered following its 1 year anniversary

Hot take: Skyrim was the worst possible thing that happened with bethesda... because they clearly are coasting and using their old sucesses (like skyrim, that's why i used it as a example) as the fundamental stone for everything and try (and achieve!) some sort of eternal forgiveness of players. Oblivion remastered is still broken? But Skyrim... Starfield is a loading mess? But Skyrim... and go on and so forth.

Problem is, even this kind of excuse loses its validity given time (bioware comes to my mind).
 
Hot take: Skyrim was the worst possible thing that happened with bethesda... because they clearly are coasting and using their old sucesses (like skyrim, that's why i used it as a example) as the fundamental stone for everything and try (and achieve!) some sort of eternal forgiveness of players. Oblivion remastered is still broken? But Skyrim... Starfield is a loading mess? But Skyrim... and go on and so forth.

Problem is, even this kind of excuse loses its validity given time (bioware comes to my mind).
I don't think it's a hot take. Skyrim was the last good game they've made.
 
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It will never be fixed. Heck, healthy sales & popularity numbers for this remake will probably encourage all involved parties to re-release Fallout 3 and other Bugthesda's games in similar state.
 
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Hot take: Skyrim was the worst possible thing that happened with bethesda... because they clearly are coasting and using their old sucesses (like skyrim, that's why i used it as a example) as the fundamental stone for everything and try (and achieve!) some sort of eternal forgiveness of players. Oblivion remastered is still broken? But Skyrim... Starfield is a loading mess? But Skyrim... and go on and so forth.
I mean, I have bought the game... three or four times by now? They haven't fixed some basic bugs since. But now there are god rays! And fishing!

...which is why I haven't got into Starfield. Fool me once. Fool me twice. Fool me... well fuck it, I'm an active part in this process. But enough is enough.
 
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Skyrim was the most broken piece of shit I ever played and is still not fixed after decades of relaunches, with some excuses being made official as the "intended behaviour". There was a time playing that a got "stuck" for as long as a week and feared to never actually beat this thing (also countless bugs).

After my time with Oblivion Remastered and not being able to beat it because of a bug, I never want again to touch anything from Bethesda. I feel pity for anyone who praises that piece of shit.
 
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Had a great time with the game, outside of the very poor SSR water reflections, didn't really notice much in terms of issues.


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Needs a switch 2 release

I recently picked up Skyrim and with all the updates it actually looks pretty damn good

Edit: this game was no buggier than the original oblivion. Obviously that's bad but if you are used to the jank its fine.
 
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Loading Screen Simulator, Stutter Special Edition

If this is the quality their remasters will have I am out
 
Loved it, amazing looking remaster and a true nostalgia shot, almost 100% but went lazy at the end of the second expansion

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I don't think Bethesda can make anything close to that anymore, hoping for the best with TESVI but at the same time I'm prepared for the worst.
 
No updates since last year. They threw an unoptimised mess and left.

Sold/Sells like hot cakes though because it refuses to be discounted more than 20% even after a year.
 
hoping for the best with TESVI but at the same time I'm prepared for the worst
What I enjoyed the most about Skyrim was the exploration of the map and the music. TES VI won't have Jeremy Soule working on the music so that's already a -3 joy points for me.
 
Would be interesting to see how much optimization improved since launch because the initial performance discourse was rough.
 
If you're expecting Virtuos to fix this, you should probably invest your interest in some other endeavor.

Even as recently as two days ago they don't acknowledge that there's anything wrong with the game.

I'm guessing it has reached its final state.
 
Lack of integrity. I can't possibly continue to give these guys more money knowing they don't give two shits about the people who support their livelihoods.
 
Had a great time with the game, outside of the very poor SSR water reflections, didn't really notice much in terms of issues.


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So you were worried about Pragmata performance but you had no issues with this stuttering mess with a frametime all over the place? You should never be worried about performance on anything ever again as nothing will come close.
 
So you were worried about Pragmata performance but you had no issues with this stuttering mess with a frametime all over the place? You should never be worried about performance on anything ever again as nothing will come close.

I ended up playing the worst of the big console versions of the game anyway, so the performance didn't really end up having an impact on my enjoyment. 🤷‍♂️
 
Ran like shit on my 13900k and RTX 4090 when I tried it at launch on Game Pass. Also had all that trademark UE5 fizzling/temporal image instability. I've been waiting for some patches before buying it on Steam, but I'm guessing it's going to be a long wait.
 
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Seems unbelievable to me that they have not worked to resolve the issues this game has considering the series' heritage and prestige. I stopped playing on PS5 after the first Oblivion gate due to the performance.

Lots of people bought it, people are not rioting, Bethesda sees no pressure to do anything about it…

And…

… people wonder why Sony did not feel like Bluepoint as a premium in-house remaster specialist was a must have anymore… now you know ;).
 
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Lack of integrity. I can't possibly continue to give these guys more money knowing they don't give two shits about the people who support their livelihoods.
Reading this thread the standard for Bethesda games for their fans seems to be that they do not come out of the screen and kick your butt… maybe even lower…
 
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Yeah I don't know if people are exaggerating or if I'm just not sensitive to the issues DF talk about. Oblivion was my GOTY last year. 🤷‍♂️
 
Played at launch on both PC and Xbox. Had more hard crashes, glitched quests, and insane clipping glitches on both platforms than I had at launch with the original Oblivion. Also there were some performance issues that seemed related to memory leaks. Played about 20 hours and couldn't take the jank any longer.
 
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Hot take: Skyrim was the worst possible thing that happened with bethesda... because they clearly are coasting and using their old sucesses (like skyrim, that's why i used it as a example) as the fundamental stone for everything and try (and achieve!) some sort of eternal forgiveness of players. Oblivion remastered is still broken? But Skyrim... Starfield is a loading mess? But Skyrim... and go on and so forth.

Problem is, even this kind of excuse loses its validity given time (bioware comes to my mind).
Not a hot take at all to be honest. Bethesda fucked almost everything up after the release of Skyrim in my opinion. At least that's the last time I can honestly say I really enjoyed a BGS game.
 
Performance is roughhhhhh. Started on PC and the stuttering was so bad I switched to Xbox and its still horrible there but atleast my audio wouldn't stutter like on PC. Game looks great though and the music is fantastic. I bounced off it after a bit because Bethesday RPGs just don't do it for me anymore, but I might jump back in and blaze through the main story to finish it.
 
One of the most important videos DF has put, really good on them to pick this issue, while I generally do find DF a bit pretentious, I applaud them for digging up old games and telling the consumer how bad it still runs, it's not fixed. Really important in this age where publishers don't give a fuck if you have low-end or medium specs.

Also this is imo not on Bethesda, they did not make the remaster, it was a contract studio. I think the contract ended and so patches or any fixes have stopped. That being said, it's a good game, very nostalgic and a really beautiful remaster. If you can run it*, I totally recommend getting this.

*: you need DDR5 RAM sticks! 16GB and above + a GPU which can do framegen because CPU stutter in UE5 openworld games are smoothed out using framegen and GPU load reduced as well and honestly the game runs and looks gorgeous even on medium with software lumen + SSR. I get around 80-100 fps outside and 120-140 fps inside caves, houses on a RTX 4070 mobile with 32GB DDR5 RAM, using framegen and DLSS Quality at 1440P.
 
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I presumed this was a gig job for Virtuos, so unless Bethesda contracts and pays them more why would they spend time fixing it?

That's what you get when you outsource shit to other companies. They just want pay.
 
I enjoyed the game and even got the platinum, but that doesn't make up for how pisspoor this game was on PS5. By far, the most crashes I've ever had from any game on console.
 
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