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The Odyssey (2026) Trailer

Are people finally going to stop huffing Nolan's farts and saying they smell like roses?

I like/love most Nolan's stuff and he's one of the greats in modern cinema, but like many others (Ridley Scott, James Cameron) with this buffonery he's falling out of grace. I'm not watching this, either on theatres or at home. This vandalization feels completely out of character. I would never expect this from Nolan or Villeneuve.

Talking about Villeneuve, I truly fear for Dune 3, but that's another story.
 
good grief, Bernthal looks like a russian gangster from the 90's. WTF is he wearing?
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It's also important to remember that the only way to really "make your mark" with a 'new' translation of such a classic, already oft translated, is to spice it up significantly.

Now I don't automatically reject such things, but if you are gonna dick around with it and try to modernize it, go all the way, not half ass it


R&J really is quite good. The dialogue is a close match for the original and it's updated mainly in setting and tone. I appreciate that movie more as time goes on and wish more people (including Luhrmann who became a gaudy slop merchant afterwards) learned from it.

You can tell when someone appreciates th source material, Nolan seems to loathe it.
 
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So that's where the modern casual language comes from. Emily Wilson's garbage. "Playtime is over." JFC.


Drinker said about this in his video. WTF are doing Nolan, you are supposed to be the intelligent one?

Not seeing this shot in the latest trailer, so may not be authentic, but it's blowing up on twitter. Would probably confirm Lupita as Helen

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I didn't know Andrew Tate was in this movie.
 


Greece isn't a big movie market so this will fall on deaf ears in Hollywood but at least we know the Greeks are mad. Small solace is as good as it gets these days
 
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Greece isn't a big movie market so this will fall on deaf ears in Hollywood but at least we know the Greeks are mad. Small solace is as good as it gets these days


Isn't this what they call...

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Too bad Greeks don't have strong lobby in Hollywood, they can butcher source material hover they like.
 


Greece isn't a big movie market so this will fall on deaf ears in Hollywood but at least we know the Greeks are mad. Small solace is as good as it gets these days

It is kinda funny to rally around Helen as that cheating slut led to a massive war that ended so many of Greece's finest. Though if they go with Pausanius and make her fated to exile in Rhodes and become "Helen of the Tree", yikes!
 



So that's where the modern casual language comes from. Emily Wilson's garbage. "Playtime is over." JFC.


The biggest indictment against Nolan being an actual intellectual. I swear to god the guy is the embodiment of what dumb people think a smart person is. He's larping as a great thinker but it's all just so superficial.
 
It is kinda funny to rally around Helen as that cheating slut led to a massive war that ended so many of Greece's finest. Though if they go with Pausanius and make her fated to exile in Rhodes and become "Helen of the Tree", yikes!
Helen was the most beautiful woman in the Greek world or whatever according to Homer, she could be picky and fickle and it turns out she was and all of Greece's men and demigods were willing to fight for her so yeah lol
 
Not seeing this shot in the latest trailer, so may not be authentic, but it's blowing up on twitter. Would probably confirm Lupita as Helen

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It is real, it's a shot from the first teaser. Some greek media reported (last year) that she plays Clytemnestra, which is why this shot was a big surprise (the rumor now is she perhaps plays both roles)
 
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It is real, it's a shot from the first teaser. Some greek media reported (last year) that she plays Clytemnestra, which is why this shot was a big surprise (the rumor now is she perhaps plays both roles)

I did wonder if they were going to depict Castor and Pollux, and what they'd look like.
 
Back in the day, I thought Troy was a mediocre or slightly above average movie. Compared to the stuff filmed today, it feels like a masterpiece. Hollywood has fallen off a cliff.




This. This is Oscar Bait, the Movie.

Troy was awesome. I watch it once every year or two. The casting was brilliant.
 
Troy was awesome. I watch it once every year or two. The casting was brilliant.
Diane Kruger played Helen in that movie. Interestingly enough, she is a German model. So Germanic features were their criteria for the most beautiful Greek woman of her era when they were casting for that movie back in the early 2000's
 
Diane Kruger played Helen in that movie. Interestingly enough, she is a German model. So Germanic features were their criteria for the most beautiful Greek woman of her era when they were casting for that movie back in the early 2000's
That sure is a stretch lol
 
Has this film had any recorded trouble on set or development or anything

Because if all the rumors are true, theres no way that literally everyone on set was retarded enough to think its ok.

Like I love/like most of Nolans movies, while you may differ in opinions hes never made these sorts of decisions before.

I guess the woke money was there during production and now the markets have shifted. No one wants to see the actress formally known as Ellen page on screen anymore
 
Diane Kruger played Helen in that movie. Interestingly enough, she is a German model. So Germanic features were their criteria for the most beautiful Greek woman of her era when they were casting for that movie back in the early 2000's


There are blonde and blue eyed Greeks, I have some in my family. There are no Subsaharans with Germanic features. This maybe the dumbest thing I have ever read. She also happens to fit the description of Helen from the actual source material.
 
This is kinda it, isn't it? Everything in this movie looks and feels off to such a degree that it's jarring. Sloppy, weird and out of place writing, bad costume design, sloppy set and prop design, bizarre casting.

It feels random and aimless, soulless even. Nolan has made some good movies and some bad movies but they always had a certain flair about them. They all have something intriguing. This movie however has nothing.

Maybe Nolan's soul is not into it for some reason.
It's seriously LOOKS (to me) as if a high schooler is putting together a movie based on the Cliffs Notes of The Odyssey without actually reading the book.

Also: "Let's GOOOOOO."
 
I like/love most Nolan's stuff and he's one of the greats in modern cinema, but like many others (Ridley Scott, James Cameron) with this buffonery he's falling out of grace. I'm not watching this, either on theatres or at home. This vandalization feels completely out of character. I would never expect this from Nolan or Villeneuve.

Talking about Villeneuve, I truly fear for Dune 3, but that's another story.
Are you saying he's lived long enough to become the villain?
 
Diane Kruger played Helen in that movie. Interestingly enough, she is a German model. So Germanic features were their criteria for the most beautiful Greek woman of her era when they were casting for that movie back in the early 2000's
Read the poem. See the analyses of the colors used on the sculptures. The Ancient Greeks did seem to be blonde and blue eyed to some extent.
 
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Read the poem. See the analyses of the colors used on the sculptures. The Ancient Greeks did seem to be blonde and blue eyed to some extent.
Alexander the Great, quite possibly the most famous Greek ever, was described as blonde, and possibly with one blue and one brown eye. So its pretty unquestionable that there were fair haired, light eyed, and presumably fair skinned greeks, particularly at a time before all the persian invasions starting 500 BC or so. Troy and the Trojan war, presumably the city in Turkey, would have happened centuries earlier, well before significant ethnic exchanges via invasion. Its even more likely that having blonde hair and light eyes, almost ALWAYS an exceptional set of features anyplace outside of northern europe, would have contributed to Helen's extraordinary beauty in Greece. We can be HIGLY confident that however she looked, it certainly wasn't sub-Saharan black, as those folks were specifically called out whenever they appeared due to the extreme exoticism of their appearance.

Though I'm more bummed about Achilles, the GREATEST WARRIOR of the saga, being a 120 pound twink, if the Ellen Page casting is true. Though maybe she hit the T really hard and bulked up? Achilles actually being a woman and not having testicles might actually be a fun way to play into the "Achilles Heel" myth, since a blow to the groin wouldn't hurt her like it would a man :P
 
Alexander the Great, quite possibly the most famous Greek ever, was described as blonde, and possibly with one blue and one brown eye. So its pretty unquestionable that there were fair haired, light eyed, and presumably fair skinned greeks, particularly at a time before all the persian invasions starting 500 BC or so. Troy and the Trojan war, presumably the city in Turkey, would have happened centuries earlier, well before significant ethnic exchanges via invasion. Its even more likely that having blonde hair and light eyes, almost ALWAYS an exceptional set of features anyplace outside of northern europe, would have contributed to Helen's extraordinary beauty in Greece. We can be HIGLY confident that however she looked, it certainly wasn't sub-Saharan black, as those folks were specifically called out whenever they appeared due to the extreme exoticism of their appearance.

Though I'm more bummed about Achilles, the GREATEST WARRIOR of the saga, being a 120 pound twink, if the Ellen Page casting is true. Though maybe she hit the T really hard and bulked up? Achilles actually being a woman and not having testicles might actually be a fun way to play into the "Achilles Heel" myth, since a blow to the groin wouldn't hurt her like it would a man :P
I guess it's weird that people took my post as some kind of justification or defense of the possible casting of Helen in Nolan's film but I'm not in charge of people's reactions to things

The ruins of Troy are indeed in what is today Turkey. Modern Asia Minor is ruled by the Muslims and has been since the fall of Constaninople in 1453
 
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