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[Toots]

Less ugly than in the leak?

Ressemblance with the control lady in this pic is uncanny?
She looked old in the trailer, like post menopausal.
My guess is between her and Faye (who looks tremendously better), old boss lady is the new black for sony suits.

Stunning.

At least on a phone screen.

Watch it on a bigger screen and you'll see it is brave too

About Wolverine, everyone already said how underwehlming it looked, but there is one thing that i found well made, the destruction of the concrete bareers during the first fight. When logan throw ennemies onto it it breaks apart slightly. It is well made, and i wonder if you can fully break apart those type of obstacle, little by little.

GOW Faye looks like hellblade with good gameplay so better than ragnarok, even tho not much.

 

[Msamy]

I don't see any RTGI here (or any RT) - if there is one, it's probably on ghost of yotei "quality" settings.

Have pretty good indirect lighting huge chance of rtgi, also it's lighting is far better than that yotei bullshit

 

[Exentryk]

Ressemblance with the control lady in this pic is uncanny?

Yeah, first time I saw I was like what's Control lady doing in this.

 

[Luipadre]

Played onimusha on PC. Super last gen visuals, but atleast it runs flawlessly. Game needs PT so badly, its a banger tho

 

[Exentryk]

 

[Superposition]

It's interesting how RE Engine sucks when the areas and interactions get a bit bigger. Onimusha looks like it jumped straight out of the PS4 generation, I remember this IP looking strong during the PS2 era. My another visual disappointment after Laufey.

 

[dgrdsv]

Dunno why you guys are so surprised that all these upcoming PS5 exclusive games look about the same as their PS4+PS5 crossplatform predecessors.
PS5 versions of these have already implemented everything they could while targeting 2x of FPS on PS5.
Wolverine have obvious RT reflections, ported over from SM2 (and SM1 on PC prior to that).
Laufey looks about the same as Ragnarok, and since they've already been at 1440p/60 there isn't much they can add aside from providing a 1440p/30 with some RT reflections probably.
The only way for these to improve significantly is to drop the 60 FPS targets completely. None of them are doing it.

 

[Cumulus]

It's interesting how RE Engine sucks when the areas and interactions get a bit bigger. Onimusha looks like it jumped straight out of the PS4 generation, I remember this IP looking strong during the PS2 era. My another visual disappointment after Laufey.

Agreed, it looks "From-Software"-Levels of ancient.
I also doubt that this will get any beautification on PC since we`ve really only seen bog standard baked lighting and very mediocre-assets/models so far, so there isn`t much there that you actually could scale up on higher performance machines.

 

[pulicat]

Captured on PS5 Pro but still looks like last-gen graphics with better IQ.

ILL, on the other hand, is extremely impressive in graphics, physics, interactivity, and animation if it's true.

 

[Lootlord]

ILL, on the other hand, is extremely impressive in graphics, physics, interactivity, and animation if it's true.

It looks too good to be true, at least for a full game and also the gameplay might just suck.

 

[coachmcguirk91]

Captured on PS5 Pro but still looks like last-gen graphics with better IQ.

ILL, on the other hand, is extremely impressive in graphics, physics, interactivity, and animation if it's true.

That is because it is a linear walking simulator. Extremely dumb to compare

 

[Lootlord]

Wolverine have obvious RT reflections, ported over from SM2 (and SM1 on PC prior to that).

Am i the only one who noticed that the reflections look really off, like at first i thought it was cubemabs in places but i think it's just that they are tracing against much lower detail models all while leaving out some objects completely.
The reflections just don't match up nicely like say in Cyberpunk with RT.

 

[Cumulus]

That is because it is a linear walking simulator. Extremely dumb to compare

compared to the almost linear environments we`ve seen from Wolverine so far....which is also officially confirmed to be linear throughout and not open world

......

Also you don`t know what a "walking simulator" is.......Or you have to put most, if not all horror fps of the last decade in that category including anything RE ofc.

"extremely dumb"
agreed.....

 

[Rheon]

Captured on PS5 Pro but still looks like last-gen graphics with better IQ.

ILL, on the other hand, is extremely impressive in graphics, physics, interactivity, and animation if it's true.

If someone told me this was a screenshot from a late gen PS4 game, I would believe them.

 

[Xtib81]

Just watched the state of play
Insomniac has fallen off : wtf is that ass looking wolverine? Looks worse than spiderman 2.
Until dawn 2 looks decent but nothing crazy.
God of cube : looks decent but the lighting STILL looks last gen ffs. You can tell the game has a huge budget though but for god's sake, give me angry kratos in Egypt.

 

[Msamy]

That is because it is a linear walking simulator. Extremely dumb to compare

That wolverine gameplay section looks really shit even when compared to other cross gen sony titles and many parts from it looks really ps4 quality, I still don't got how they show that specific section when they have other sections with far better graphics like first trailer and last minute of this trailer

 

[Superposition]

If someone told me this was a screenshot from a late gen PS4 game, I would believe them.

Unfortunately, their (PS Studios) laziness and complacency are now glaringly obvious in their productions, they can't hide It anymore. Thanks to fucking CoD and Fortnite.

 

[dgrdsv]

Am i the only one who noticed that the reflections look really off, like at first i thought it was cubemabs in places but i think it's just that they are tracing against much lower detail models all while leaving out some objects completely.
The reflections just don't match up nicely like say in Cyberpunk with RT.

Yeah, the BVH world is simplified and the shading is also simplistic. But that's what you get when you try hit 60 on these RDNA2 consoles from 2020.

 

[viveks86]

SSM have said "Cory is the Head of Creative at Santa Monica Studio, this involves working with game directors like Ariel Lawrence and guiding the long-term vision for all games in the series."

This suggests he will no longer be a director of his "own" games.

Yep. That's my conclusion as well at the moment.

 

[Msamy]

And some says it looks like ragnarok lol

 

[Xtib81]

And some says it looks like ragnarok lol

What looks like a 2027 game here?

 

[RodriGames40]

Laufey is just DS2 all over again. Baked lightning with top tier models and environments, even a basic IDTech-ish RTGI would do it wonders...

 

[analog_future]

What looks like a 2027 game here?

The edge lighting/subsurface scattering with the hair looks pretty good.

The rest?

 

[darthkarki]

Laufey looks about the same as Ragnarok

Dude. Come on. Laufey is miles ahead of Ragnarok. Every single aspect - model and texture assets, density, lighting, that hair... This is a big jump.

And some says it looks like ragnarok lol

 

[Exentryk]

Onimusha looks pretty poor. After Wukong, there is a higher bar for these sort of games. The combat and performance is great however.
Likely a skip for me.

 

[Gonzito]

Onimusha looks pretty poor. After Wukong, there is a higher bar for these sort of games. The combat and performance is great however.
Likely a skip for me.

Something looks wrong with the tonemapping why does it look so washout

 

[Rheon]

The edge lighting/subsurface scattering with the hair looks pretty good.

The rest?

Honestly if it wasn't for the hair, it would look 99% like a Ragnarok screenshot.

 

[Bojji]

Yeah, the BVH world is simplified and the shading is also simplistic. But that's what you get when you try hit 60 on these RDNA2 consoles from 2020.

But this is from PS5 pro with RDNA4 RT acceleration. They could have used much better BVH, I get why it's so simple for open world spider man but this game is linear.

Dude. Come on. Laufey is miles ahead of Ragnarok. Every single aspect - model and texture assets, density, lighting, that hair... This is a big jump.

we need more high quality Ragnarok pics here, people forgot how this game looks.

 

[Exentryk]

Something looks wrong with the tonemapping why does it look so washout

Yeah, it's tonemapped from HDR so probably some conversion settings. Can't be bothered to check/fix.

 

[coachmcguirk91]

compared to the almost linear environments we`ve seen from Wolverine so far....which is also officially confirmed to be linear throughout and not open world

......

Also you don`t know what a "walking simulator" is.......Or you have to put most, if not all horror fps of the last decade in that category including anything RE ofc.

"extremely dumb"
agreed.....

Wolverine is open hub/zone. Not linear. That ill game will be walking cooridor to cooridor with one or two enemies on screen, at most. It will be Hellblade 2.0 all over again

And I doubt it will look close to that good because that Russian studio is known for making games look WAY better in trailers than the actual game. It is the same people behind Atomic Heart. They also simultaneously developing The Cube, which looks way too good to be true

 

[analog_future]

Dude. Come on. Laufey is miles ahead of Ragnarok. Every single aspect

You can say things like this, but we all have eyes and can see that this isn't true.

 

[analog_future]

Onimusha looks pretty poor. After Wukong, there is a higher bar for these sort of games. The combat and performance is great however.
Likely a skip for me.

I agree on the visuals. RE Engine games are clearly best for small interiors/urban environments. They always struggling with larger environments/forests/foliage/etc..


Onimusha isn't anything like Wukong though.

 

[DanielG165]

ILL was the only title last night that made me go, "wow". Wolverine looks and feels like SM2 (same universe so I guess), too clean and sterile-looking. GOW Laufey looks better than the incredibly safe-looking Ragnarok, especially in the facial animations, but I still wasn't impressed. The gameplay especially looked floaty.

I feel like E-Day is going to absolutely blow the doors off all that was shown today, outside of ILL. UE5+ The Coalition = What will likely be a new graphical standard, alongside Hellblade 2.

 

[analog_future]

 

[Msamy]

To end this here ragnarok Gameplay playstation blog first official pics:

Faye Playstation blog first official gameplay pics

I think that is fair enough, I will leave the comparison to you guy's

 

[mindfreak191]

To end this here ragnarok Gameplay playstation blog first official pics:

Faye Playstation blog first official gameplay pics

I think that is fair enough, I will leave the comparison to you guy's

Doesn't count, you have to take pictures of these screenshots on your TV with your phone and then post them.

 

[Msamy]

Doesn't count, you have to take pictures of these screenshots on your TV with your phone and then post them.

Lol

 

[SlimySnake]

Thoughts?

i think the demo is lacking some post processing effects and volumetrics that makes it look really bland. but there are several good looking shots in the trailer.

 

[Msamy]

Thoughts?

i think the demo is lacking some post processing effects and volumetrics that makes it look really bland. but there are several good looking shots in the trailer.

They show very ugly part from the game

 

[Represent.]

I just booted up Ragnarok last night on my PS5 Pro. It looks way worse than Faye. Lighting is way worse, character models look way worse, her hair looks 2 gens behind.

Thoughts?

i think the demo is lacking some post processing effects and volumetrics that makes it look really bland. but there are several good looking shots in the trailer.

This looks good, game will look good enough. I dont care, September is loaded and all of these games are an appetite before GTA6 anyway.

 

[Msamy]

I just booted up Ragnarok last night on my PS5 Pro. It looks way worse than Faye. Lighting is way worse, character models look way worse, her hair looks 2 gens behind.


This looks good, game will look good enough. I dont care, September is loaded and all of these games are an appetite before GTA6 anyway.

I think the pics above is fair enough to show the difference

 

[ChiefDada]

I don't see any RTGI here (or any RT) - if there is one, it's probably on ghost of yotei "quality" settings.

Not comparable to the barebones Yotei implementation at all. We've got accurate/RT emissive lighting throughout the environment, superb self shadowing on main character Faye that we've never seen before in God of War. Indirect lighting is a generational improvement over Ragnarok across the board.

 

[Represent.]

Where do you host these gifs? I use imgbb and they go dead in 12 hours

 

[ChiefDada]

Thoughts?

i think the demo is lacking some post processing effects and volumetrics that makes it look really bland. but there are several good looking shots in the trailer.

Looks pretty flat - I don't think Wolverine looks very good right now. It's possible and even likely that it will improve by release given Insomniac track record but there are also non graphical aspects of the game that turn me off such as the writing/dialogue.

 

[Bojji]

To end this here ragnarok Gameplay playstation blog first official pics:

Faye Playstation blog first official gameplay pics

I think that is fair enough, I will leave the comparison to you guy's

Yeah, it's in the same ballpark, it could be sold as expansion pack/DLC.

Not comparable to the barebones Yotei implementation at all. We've got accurate/RT emissive lighting throughout the environment, superb self shadowing on main character Faye that we've never seen before in God of War. Indirect lighting is a generational improvement over Ragnarok across the board.

I think you need to post examples of that. I don't see it, we have standard cascade shadow maps, baked lighting and in this pic - no good lighting at all (also no SSS):

To me it just look like standard raster tricks but of course I could be wrong.

 

[Lootlord]

Yeah, the BVH world is simplified and the shading is also simplistic. But that's what you get when you try hit 60 on these RDNA2 consoles from 2020.

I mean Cyberpunk does run at 60 with much better RT reflections though.

 

[SlimySnake]

Where do you host these gifs? I use imgbb and they go dead in 12 hours

imgur

 

[Zuzu]

Wrt Laufey the armour and skin textures of the two villains and the big flying dragon-like creature looked impressive but the lighting looks dated to me. Fey's face often looked poorly lit.

 

[Alex11]

Some more Fatekeeper

Spoiler

 

[coachmcguirk91]

Looks pretty flat - I don't think Wolverine looks very good right now. It's possible and even likely that it will improve by release given Insomniac track record but there are also non graphical aspects of the game that turn me off such as the writing/dialogue.

What writing and dialogue have been shown to be a turn off? So many people go into games just hating them