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Graphical Fidelity I Expect This Gen

setoman said:
Wait you actually think Gears E day look better than Metro?

And I do have to say we have to put an asterisk on that metro demo as they like downgrading their game from released video. Metro exodus was downgraded highly compared to its reveal gameplay demo.
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no gears, halo and state of decay all look mid.

but you have conveniently ignored dozens of ue5 games shown this week that look way better.
 
so 7 year dev time and this is what coalition produces? same last gen gameplay? mid graphics? nothing new?

ssm too. proof that time doesnt always translate into next gen visuals let alone gameplay.
 
SlimySnake said:
no gears, halo and state of decay all look mid.

but you have conveniently ignored dozens of ue5 games shown this week that look way better.
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Lol, with few release dates and pretty much all are from unknown or new studios. We have no idea how the final product works out

Gears looks like it runs incredibly well at least, which has been the issue. Sometimes you have to sacrifice fidelity to make it work
 
Welp, I guess my post earlier today expecting Gears e-day to be a graphical showcase fell flat. Very average looking.

It seems it's no longer about technical know-how, it's the amount of artists you can throw at a game and clearly Asians have beat the west by a long margin there.
 
Buggy Loop said:
Welp, I guess my post earlier today expecting Gears e-day to be a graphical showcase fell flat. Very average looking.

It seems it's no longer about technical know-how, it's the amount of artists you can throw at a game and clearly Asians have beat the west by a long margin there.
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I think MS and how they only keep people for short contracts it to be blamed here.

Yeah... Metro also looks underwhelming (to me).

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Audiophile said:
Is it just me or have the gameplay segments of Senua been downgraded graphically, likely in an attempt to make it into an actual game?
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Completely agreed. Senua looked last gen compared to the snippets I've seen of HB2. Without high res rocks and nanite doing the heavy lifting it's nowhere near as impressive.
 
E-Day looks like a technical masterpiece to me, honestly. CE Remake stole the show in my eyes, but Gears looks insane. The facial animation work, and simulation both especially look current gen as hell.

E-Day, ILL Hellblade 3, Halo, and A Plague Tale 3 will be the graphical heavy hitters, outside of GTA 6.
 
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Seems like a trend with these trailers. The farther out a game is, the more next gen it looks. Every 6 months it gets closer to release it looks more and more downgraded until they can release something that won't RROD a series S.
 
analog_future said:
So much for Gears E-Day blowing minds. Disappointing.


Senua is hugely downgraded from Senua's Saga as well.
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Msamy said:
Whats your thoughts on senua?
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just watched it again. not sure where the downgrade talks are coming from. looks virtually identical to me.

still not buying the game. i dont care if it has actual non qte combat. the game will barely be a game and im not suffering thru 7 years of that garbage again.
 
Gears didn't impressed me much and it looks like the same boring ass formula, even the shooting didn't improved much.

Metro doens't look like that famous trailer...


Fable really is the only good thing we can expect from M unless i'm forgetting something, i'm about to watch the trailer 🕺
 
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New gears looks really good dunno what you guys smoking and its on livestream where 90% of detail is lost. This will blow heads in real time on your PC
 
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I can't believe God of War and Gears of War -the flagships- face the same problem: washed by low effort Old-Gen looking.
 
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Yeah, I'm not seeing where the underwhelmed impressions for Gears are coming from. The Coalition looks like they did an incredible job pushing what will be 6 year old hardware to its limit, and left no stone left unturned with E-Day. 4K with RT on console as well? Yeah, what other studios have done that with UE5, with as much competency? There's only so much headroom you have on a Series X|S at this point, as performant as something like the X still is, and The Coalition definitely used all of it whilst still making the game… Playable lol.

There was no way we were going to see Hellblade 2 levels of visuals, and still have a Gears game be a Gears game. That being said: PC maxed out is going to look immense.
 
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SlimySnake said:
just watched it again. not sure where the downgrade talks are coming from. looks virtually identical to me.

still not buying the game. i dont care if it has actual non qte combat. the game will barely be a game and im not suffering thru 7 years of that garbage again.
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SlimySnake said:
just watched it again. not sure where the downgrade talks are coming from. looks virtually identical to me.

still not buying the game. i dont care if it has actual non qte combat. the game will barely be a game and im not suffering thru 7 years of that garbage again.
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Virtually identical? Not a chance in hell. I don't think there's a single sequence in Senua's Saga that looks as forgettable as this:

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SlimySnake said:
just watched it again. not sure where the downgrade talks are coming from. looks virtually identical to me.

still not buying the game. i dont care if it has actual non qte combat. the game will barely be a game and im not suffering thru 7 years of that garbage again.
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this is more like a "Skirmish Mode" DLC based on the HB2. more combat heavy and light on the story probably. it will release soon and would be a good cash grab
 
Ok, E-day's direct kind of redeems it. Not crazy mind blowing stuff but the dynamic destruction of an open world(ish?) makes it more sense that it wouldn't look as good as a corridor linear game.

If they sprinkle path tracing on PC version it would be insane.

Also kudos to the gore system. Wolverine GTFO with kiddy slashes and spurts of blood when THE fucking wolverine smash your face with the claws. Such a missed opportunity. I'll never understand how gore was not THE focus of that game.
 
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H . R . 2 said:
I found it very interesting that so far UE5 has enabled most indie and Chinese devs to go all in on the animations. Plague, Blood Message, even a simple UE5 parkour game has mindblowing animations. even BodyCam or ILL
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Plague use inhouse to engine
 
Buggy Loop said:
Ok, E-day's direct kind of redeems it. Not crazy mind blowing stuff but the dynamic destruction of an open world(ish?) makes it more sense that it wouldn't look as good as a corridor linear game.
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it's a tad inconsistent across its environments and even the improvements they have made.


analog_future said:
Virtually identical? Not a chance in hell. I don't think there's a single sequence in Senua's Saga that looks as forgettable as this:

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I agree. nowhere or even a quarter as good. let alone "identical"
SlimySnake SlimySnake here I was thinking MY eyesight was impaired

gameplay has been improved but interestingly not even as good as Blood Message or Plague
 
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analog_future said:
Virtually identical? Not a chance in hell. I don't think there's a single sequence in Senua's Saga that looks as forgettable as this:

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environments are virtually identical. combat visuals look worse because they no longer take place in arenas filled with fog where you cant even see the level. that allowed them to push detail on character models but this time the game seems to have traditional combat encounters, not carefully crafted qte sequences.

watch the opening of the trailer again where it shows off levels.
 
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