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[DenchDeckard]

Thing is the game was never announced as multiplat in the first place. MS bought themselves some exclusives, but the only example I know from them of doing this on a multiplat series is Rise of the Tomb Raider.

While Sony have been doing this for multiplat series since like forever, and entered the market doing this. And Stellar Blade was previously announced as multiplat.

At least you agree the practice is shit, unlike others who are just going to defend it because "MS too" (even if the scale is largely smaller).

I think Xbox did Stalker 2 recently but that was a sequel to a cult classic that was only on PC up until PS4 / Xbox one so make that what you will. I see it pop up when people are complaining of moneyhats.

Its all shit, like you said. Everyones done it at some point but I think the most egregious examples are FFVII and the Tomb raider franchise on PS1, to my knowledge.

Radical_3d We are only discussing that Sony pretty much invented the playbook on Moneyhats. Yes, Microsoft heavily adopted it in the 360 era I completely agree.

 

[CLW]

EVERYTHING is XBOX

game is on PS5 ergo it's already on XBOX

 

[balls of snow]

Even Death Stranding 1 was not on xbox.( But it is on the windows store, weird af).

 

[Radical_3d]

Radical_3d We are only discussing that Sony pretty much invented the playbook on Moneyhats.

Ok, bazza.

When the 8 to 16 bits computers wars was on I was a happy rose tinted cheeks boy with my Spectrum and my Master System, but I'm pretty sure there are examples from early on.

 

[Unfortunatecookie]

You have Asha at home already, Jez

Underrated brilliance.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Ok, bazza.

When the 8 to 16 bits computers wars was on I was a happy rose tinted cheeks boy with my Spectrum and my Master System, but I'm pretty sure there are examples from early on.

Nintendo didn't pay for that. But, I imagine there were other exclusivity deals done from both Sega and Nintendo. I really am not 100 percent sure. My point is, when they really hit their stride were when Sony did the moves such as FF VII and Tomb raider.

I mean, Lara Croft pretty much became Sonys mascot because they nailed the moneyhats so well.

When people discuss this stuff, its only because its industry knowledge that they were using moneyhats as a key part of their business strat for the last 30 years like cireza said. Thats just common knowledge.

 

[Evil Calvin]

I don't think anything else needs to be said.

The Xbox Series is a dead console in terms of its user base.

Worrying about releasing a port for something that's dead makes no sense.

They still have 35-40 million users out there. It not dead PS fanboy.

 

[StueyDuck]

The only rally this numpty needs to go to is weight loss rally and do 20ks

 

[Radical_3d]

Nintendo didn't pay for that. But, I imagine there were other exclusivity deals done from both Sega and Nintendo. I really am not 100 percent sure. My point is, when they really hit their stride were when Sony did the moves such as FF VII and Tomb raider.

I mean, Lara Croft pretty much became Sonys mascot because they nailed the moneyhats so well.

When people discuss this stuff, its only because its industry knowledge that they were using moneyhats as a key part of their business strat for the last 30 years like cireza said. Thats just common knowledge.

I think the FFVII is just that Square found out that Nintendo weren't using CDs when they were 2CDs in of development. And the cartridge fee was abysmal for what've heard. Tomb Raider actually released before in my beloved Saturn. I remember going to a friend's place and see him carefully calculating a jump just to end up in some spikes. And about how many time they've been doing it: less than Microsoft, that money-hatted MS-DOS. Again, complaining about Sony buying temporal exclusives in a Microsoft thread is ballsy to say the least. We know they are bigger. We know what their intentions were (written by their very own executives on emails). And we know how they behave once they are the only ones in a market. I only feel for their demise because they were keeping Sony in check and actually had a handful of good ideas over the years. But trying to play underdog here is ridiculous.

 

[Stafford]

I saw a tweet where someone said FF7R didn't receive a Xbox announcement until the release date for Switch was announced. This true?

Because I guess there's still some bit of hope left.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Maybe is too controversial for Xbox and MS, haven't you think about that, Jez?

 

[Baemono]

 

[Stafford]

Maybe is too controversial for Xbox and MS, haven't you think about that, Jez?

But yet the Xbox store has plenty of games that can be considered controversial. It doesn't quite add up.

It would make sense for Korea. True, but outside of that? There are a good amount of people that would want to play it. I'd buy it if it were to be announced.

 

[Zacfoldor]

I'm okay with SB2 on Ekobo-kun.

 

[MayauMiao]

Why waste resource developing a game for a dead console? Stellar Blade main market is Asia, and Xbox is dead over there.

Unless Microsoft lends a hand at development cost, nothing can be done to persuade Shift Up to waste their own time and money creating an Xbox port.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

But yet the Xbox store has plenty of games that can be considered controversial. It doesn't quite add up.



It would make sense for Korea. True, but outside of that? There are a good amount of people that would want to play it. I'd buy it if it were to be announced.

It was a reference to this:

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Easily one of the best games this gen imo.

 

[deriks]

Nintendo consoles kept outisde with lots of games since the N64. It's called market

 

[Same ol G]

I played stellar blade demo on ps5 for about 20 minutes. I don't see the hype other than the arse.

So you did see the hype.....

 

[Lootlord]

I thought everything is an Xbox...so...

 

[DeepEnigma]

 

[Sethbacca]

Why would developers release a game on a console whose user-base doesn't buy games?

Even if they ported it the console base would expect this to be free on gamepass.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Asha needs to get Senran Kagura 7even and Dead or Alive Xtreme 4 uncensored as exclusives. That would fix it all. Do it for Itagaki!

 

[proandrad]

MS rarely blocked exclusives that were previously multiplatform games.

Only recently because no developer is willing to make their titles exclusive on a console with a small install base. Paying for exclusives is how 360 was able to be successful early on.

 

[Same ol G]

I couldnt care less about the Stellar Blade games.

How old is the main character btw? She looks like she is 14-15 years old? Gives me all the wrong vibes cos she is too young. I like to play a game and not feel like a paedo.

Well, they are avoiding your favorite box like the plague so you win i guess.....

 

[Seiryu21]

There's no reason to work with the series s unless Microsoft is paying you extra for your time.

 

[memoryman3]

There's no reason to work with the series s unless Microsoft is paying you extra for your time.

This game is releasing on Switch 2

 

[Seiryu21]

This game is releasing on Switch 2

People are actually buying the switch 2

 

[OmegaSupreme]

It's on Steam, though? Isn't that an Xbox?

 

[Seiryu21]

It's on Steam, though? Isn't that an Xbox?

That's what they keep telling us

 

[cireza]

Paying for exclusives is how 360 was able to be successful early on.

Of games that were previously multiplaform ?

 

[reinking]

Sony making a deal with Shift Up for Stellar Blade is old news. I am not sure that it matters anymore with a Nintendo port. Obviously Sony is not preventing Shift Up from releasing it on other platforms now. XBOX is coming off of a decent show over the weekend and this is where Jez decides to go? XBOX fans love to be the victim.

 

[proandrad]

Of games that were previously multiplaform ?

Bioshock, GTA 4 episodes, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Mass Effect, Splinter Cell conviction.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

This game is releasing on Switch 2

The Switch 2 also has 12GB of RAM. Yes there is a big difference between 10 and 12.

RAM has always been the biggest headaches for XSS.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

People are actually buying the switch 2

And most of these genuies dont realize that Switch 2 also has another important advantage over the XSS. It has 12GB of RAM, while the XSS has only 10.

Going with 10GB of RAM instead of at least 12 (ideally 16 like the XSX), is probably the most underrated blunder of the Xbox Series era.

If rumors are to be believed, Sony plans to keep memory close enough on their upcoming handhelds to the main console.

 

[cireza]

Bioshock, GTA 4 episodes, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Mass Effect, Splinter Cell conviction.

Bioshock was a new game, it did not have PS releases yet. Same for Mass Effect. For GTA we are talking about a DLC right ?

So that leaves us with Tomb Raider and Splinter Cell. Both games arrived one year later on PS. So basically the same situation as Silent Hill 2 recently, that was blocked for one year on PS.

What about Street Fighter V though ? The game still has to release on Xbox. While IV was highly successful on Xbox and the platform of choice for EVO tournaments. PS came, bought SFV and bought EVO. How awesome is that ?
All Final Fantasy games were blocked until Sony sold its shares in Square-Enix. Eventually arrived in 2019 lol.

Final Fantasy VII, IX, X | X-2 HD Remaster, and XII: The Zodiac Age coming to Xbox One and Switch in 2019

Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy IX, Final Fantasy X | X-2 HD Remaster, and Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age are coming to Xbox One and Switch in 2019, Square Enix announced. All four titles are c…

www.gematsu.com

Even after this, FF VII Remake and XVI have been blocked for years.

 

[Seiryu21]

And most of these genuies dont realize that Switch 2 also has another important advantage over the XSS. It has 12GB of RAM, while the XSS has only 10.

Going with 10GB of RAM instead of at least 12 (ideally 16 like the XSX), is probably the most underrated blunder of the Xbox Series era.

If rumors are to be believed, Sony plans to keep memory close enough on their upcoming handhelds to the main console.

Exactly. There's currently multiple reasons not to port to Xbox and the difficulty involved with the series s is a huge one.

That plus the sales being completely static just makes skipping the platform an obvious choice unless Microsoft pays you extra.

 

[Baemono]

For GTA we are talking about a DLC right ?

No, expansions with new stories and new characters (odd to consider they never bothered to do that again), like Liberty City stories and Vice City stories

 

[VolticArchangel]

Let's see if the sequel is announced for Xbox series consoles, if it is. We have our answer.

Didn't Sony already confirm a timed exclusivity deal for this and not be vague like Wukong?

I mean, that's the reason this came to pc exactly after a year.

Now to Switch 2 a year after that and maybe later for Xbox.

 

[cireza]

No, expansions with new stories and new characters (odd to consider they never bothered to do that again), like Liberty City stories and Vice City stories

It was two DLCs that were released 1 year later on PS3 if I am not mistaken.

 

[Venom Snake]

Don't worry Jez, they have you instead.

 

[Moriarty1889]

FFS MS are bunch of cucks for being so offended by the female form…..this is absolute lunacy on their part.

 

[memoryman3]

The Switch 2 also has 12GB of RAM. Yes there is a big difference between 10 and 12.

RAM has always been the biggest headaches for XSS.

It's more like 8.5GB vs 9GB, and Stellar Blade isn't heavy on RAM usage.

 

[Ebrietas]

A lot of Asian games skip Xbox. Because they sell practically nothing. It's not some mystery.

 

[DenchDeckard]

The Switch 2 also has 12GB of RAM. Yes there is a big difference between 10 and 12.

RAM has always been the biggest headaches for XSS.

Fucking series s man, could have been a brilliant little box with 12gb of memory.

I still respect the thing, my kids moved on from pc so I just grabbed one of their old ones and took it away with me. So small and cool for 90 recent of titles but that memory situation is an embarrassment.

Created a headache for everyone.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

They still have 35-40 million users out there. It not dead PS fanboy.

RE9 recent sales
PC - ~3.7M
PS5 - ~2.8M
NS2 + XB - ~500k

So say a publisher sees those kinda numbers, how much encouragement do you think that gives them to support certain platforms?

 

[LiquidMetal14]

The state of Xbox in general but especially their influencers, stinks.

What do the big xbox fans here seriously think about these people? Adams Apple have any opinion?

 

[digoutyoursoul]

The state of Xbox in general but especially their influencers, stinks.

What do the big xbox fans here seriously think about these people? Adams Apple have any opinion?

Not a fan of any of them to be honest, been a detriment if anything, clearly in it for themselves, if they were not they would of been in the least bit truthful about the state of things and the leadership team over the years.

 

[DeepEnigma]

XBOX is coming off of a decent show over the weekend and this is where Jez decides to go? XBOX fans love to be the victim.

That part.

 

[PauloRoberto]

RE9 recent sales
PC - ~3.7M
PS5 - ~2.8M
NS2 + XB - ~500k

So say a publisher sees those kinda numbers, how much encouragement do you think that gives them to support certain platforms?

Where did you get these numbers? Because NS2 PLUS XBOX numbers are simply ridiculous :-D