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[coachmcguirk91]

Just wrapped up 007 First Light. I'm a bit mixed on the game overall, but visually it was frequently impressive, if inconsistent. Reminded me a bit of Control, actually.

A few more of my shots

I am near the end of 007. The outdoor environments do not look anywhere close to the photos above, especially the further you get in the game.

I have no idea how this game could cost 200mil dollars. The Last of Us 2 cost the same amount with developers living in Santa Monica vs Finland. The Last of Us 2 was fully motion captured. Cutscenes in 007 have background NPC's standing motionless. Outside a few cinematic action scenes, the cinematics are not on the level they should be for a James Bond game

It is too bad because the story of 007 is phenomenal. I really hope IO can fully motion capture their next game. They deserve it

 

[Jesb]

We are almost reaching that Wii U tech demo

If they can deliver this I'll buy my first Nintendo console since the Wii. They should be shooting for this.

 

[SlimySnake]

Alright man if you're going to do this then I'm going to have to bring my own 2018/Ragnorak screenshots. Screenshots that I grabbed myself while playing each of these games on PC.


Does Laufey look better than this? Sure, I guess. In the same way Assassin's Creed Odyssey looks better than Assassin's Creed Origins, maybe.


The "jump" to Laufey from God of War 2018 is what we would've expected to see within the same generation , ala Uncharted to Uncharted 2 or Bioshock to Bioshock Infinite. Not 9 years later on next generation hardware.

I've played and beaten the game three times. Then put in almost 100 hours into valhalla and the game does not look like that all the time.

I can literally count the areas that look good.
1) opening scene in the snow.
2) atreus climbing the mountain to asgard
3) arreus exploring jotenheim
4) midgard open world/frozen lake

The rest is all ps4 era garbage. Hellheim, musphelheim, vanaheim, the crater and alfheims desert all look like utter garbage. Game looks great during cutscenes like most Sony games and some linear areas but for a 50 hour game to look good only 5 hours is not acceptable. im hoping faye is a lot more consistent.

 

[SlimySnake]

has nintendo joined the next gen party?

 

[Balducci30]

Thanks for these pictures my friend but fact faye looks hugely better, here's your direct feed pc version pictures(which is better than any ps5 version) compared to Faye ps5 youtube pictures

Lighting, environment, character models and hair all looks hugely better and considering Faye run at 60fps with those visuals I really like it.

It doesn't look that different to me. Maybe a little better but nothing crazy. But sometimes this happens and then when you play it it's a whole other ball game

 

[March Climber]

It doesn't look that different to me. Maybe a little better but nothing crazy. But sometimes this happens and then when you play it it's a whole other ball game

"Looks even better in motion" is definitely a thing, but at the same time I do think the new one looks better by a small margin.

 

[Balducci30]

has nintendo joined the next gen party?

Is that meant to be the actual graphics?

 

[SlimySnake]

Is that meant to be the actual graphics?

we are all hoping.

Why does that fucking actress have to be in everything now?

"Farah"

you shut your mouth!

Spoiler

at least shes pretty lol

 

[SlimySnake]

this is the best snow deformation ive ever seen.

 

[March Climber]

this is the best snow deformation ive ever seen.

Character animation should be EA Sports next #1 priority.

That sudden animation 'snap' when they decide to stop running needs to be smoother, especially since we will be heading into next gen soon and the snow will look even better.

 

[squallbr]

It doesn't look that different to me. Maybe a little better but nothing crazy. But sometimes this happens and then when you play it it's a whole other ball game

For me looks the same as 2018 , a Jaguar and 1.8TFs engine

 

[CGNoire]

I think part of it is that Gears 5 was arguably one of the top 5 best looking games of last gen, so the expectation was for E-Day to follow suite. Instead E-Day just looks like a mid UE5 game.


Again, hopefully the PC version surprises us.

I Personaly think YT is decimating the detail in Gears. Mark my words.

 

[CGNoire]

Most of the games shown were indeed next gen. problem is that wolverine and gears fail to look better than indie games, that will dominate the discussion.

i think this was a good e3 with lots of stunning games shown.

my top 10:
- ILL
- Halo remake
- God Of War Laundry
- Silent Hill Townfall
- College Football
- genAtlas
- Stellar Blade 2
- Until Dawn 2
- RE Code Veronica
- Crossfire

I feel like Im the only one here who thinks YT did Gears dirty and its gonna blow minds upon direct observation....no one else??

 

[GymWolf]

Alright man if you're going to do this then I'm going to have to bring my own 2018/Ragnorak screenshots. Screenshots that I grabbed myself while playing each of these games on PC.

Does Laufey look better than this? Sure, I guess. In the same way Assassin's Creed Odyssey looks better than Assassin's Creed Origins, maybe.


The "jump" to Laufey from God of War 2018 is what we would've expected to see within the same generation , ala Uncharted to Uncharted 2 or Bioshock to Bioshock Infinite. Not 9 years later on next generation hardware.

Odissey doesnt really look better than origins...

I would kinda say the opposite even just because egypt is much more visually starking and interesting than greece, at least in the games.

 

[GymWolf]

Western developers really did a number on us over the years if that is what we consider "pretty"

 

[Gubaldo]

this is the best snow deformation ive ever seen.

but their EA FC lagging behind

 

[littlezoo]

Resident Evil Requiem

 

[GymWolf]

And people argued with me that this chick doesnt look like a plastic doll with wax skin, smh.

 

[PeteBull]

What am I wrong about?

About all devs dropping the ball, plenty dont, plenty noname devs from outside of the west matched and surpassed top western dev studios by now.

Hell u got recent gothic remake as example, devs are basically half-amatours, yet game's target is 30fps even on ps5pr0 so it has a chance to look great(and yes it doesnt even hold super stable 30 on pr0 at times).
Graphic fidelity is there tho unlike wolverine/gears(60fps games from wellknown veteran western studios) and likely even blasian baldie game whenever its gonna release- maybe cuckman gonna make it ps6 exclusive or at least ps6 as target and ps5 gonna just get 2ndrate downport with 30fps 1080p base mode? Then i can see it improve a lot vs the reveal trailer

As a sony games fan(atic) i noticed sony in particular fucked up so hard getting rid of quantic dreams(heavy rain/beyond 2 souls/detroit), bluepoint(amazing remakes, including this gens demons souls) ready at dawn(the order 1886), team ico with ueda(ico, shadow of colossus, the last guardian) and bend(bubsy3d,syphon filter, resistance,days gone), that last one not closed yet but horrible layoffs and sent on gaas duty which failed, likely gonna close soon and for sure cant produce nothing good anymore...
All that while they spent over 5b usd on their "gaas initiative" (bungie alone was 3,6b usd)and burned all that money with exception of helldivers2.

Like i said- platform holders and many western devs really dropped the ball this gen, big time, it pains me to see it coz i really expected greatness from them.

 

[Gonzito]

And people argued with me that this chick doesnt look like a plastic doll with wax skin, smh.

 

[Critical Hit]

"The game looks good", "They're making the right choices here" - about FF7
What a bunch of clowns. And it looks like they cut out the shots showing the view from above the map.

 

[Rheon]

Why do we still post DF in this thread? It's obvious they're shills that can't be trusted now.

Looking to them for any sort of critique is a waste of time.

 

[Gonzito]

Why do we still post DF in this thread? It's obvious they're shills that can't be trusted now.

Looking to them for any sort of critique is a waste of time.

Agreed. And they still get their own threads almost weekly. I cant stand them anymore, bunch of fraudsters

 

[Msamy]

"The game looks good", "They're making the right choices here" - about FF7
What a bunch of clowns. And it looks like they cut out the shots showing the view from above the map.

That part when they talk about ff7 is clearly a joke, trying to sell this bull to people

 

[GymWolf]

Not surprised that you are into sex dolls

 

[GymWolf]

Why do we still post DF in this thread? It's obvious they're shills that can't be trusted now.

Looking to them for any sort of critique is a waste of time.

And miss the chance to troll their asses?

They are free comedy gold.

 

[Bojji]

Thanks for these pictures my friend but fact faye looks hugely better, here's your direct feed pc version pictures(which is better than any ps5 version) compared to Faye ps5 youtube pictures

Lighting, environment, character models and hair all looks hugely better and considering Faye run at 60fps with those visuals I really like it.

Actually, his Ragnarok SS look better here. Both games are in similar ballpark and that's what I said from the beginning, I replayed Ragnarok 2 months ago on PC.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

I am near the end of 007. The outdoor environments do not look anywhere close to the photos above, especially the further you get in the game.

I have no idea how this game could cost 200mil dollars. The Last of Us 2 cost the same amount with developers living in Santa Monica vs Finland. The Last of Us 2 was fully motion captured. Cutscenes in 007 have background NPC's standing motionless. Outside a few cinematic action scenes, the cinematics are not on the level they should be for a James Bond game

It is too bad because the story of 007 is phenomenal. I really hope IO can fully motion capture their next game. They deserve it

Licensing, expensive Hollywood actors?

 

[analog_future]

I've played and beaten the game three times. Then put in almost 100 hours into valhalla and the game does not look like that all the time.

I can literally count the areas that look good.
1) opening scene in the snow.
2) atreus climbing the mountain to asgard
3) arreus exploring jotenheim
4) midgard open world/frozen lake

The rest is all ps4 era garbage. Hellheim, musphelheim, vanaheim, the crater and alfheims desert all look like utter garbage. Game looks great during cutscenes like most Sony games and some linear areas but for a 50 hour game to look good only 5 hours is not acceptable. im hoping faye is a lot more consistent.

I don't really disagree with you, but in comparing to what they showed of Laufey, it makes sense to compare it to the best of what we saw from previous games.

 

[Trilobit]

I never understood why this thread got the NSFW tag. It never has any NSFW. Not that I'm complaining.

 

[Bojji]

I never understood why this thread got the NSFW tag. It never has any NSFW. Not that I'm complaining.

 

[Gonzito]

I never understood why this thread got the NSFW tag. It never has any NSFW. Not that I'm complaining.

We have Gymwolf and SlimySnake, the gayest GAF couple posting here often so its 100% justified

 

[Msamy]

Actually, his Ragnarok SS look better here. Both games are in similar ballpark and that's what I said from the beginning, I replayed Ragnarok 2 months ago on PC.

Lighting, and character models and hair tech are clearly better on laufey, i don't know how you guys don't see that clear thing also those hq direct feed ragnarok pics have far better quality than youtube bullshit, here some shots taken by me from 30sec direct feed press video I don't know why big companuy can't provide full trailerson direct feed quality instead of YouTube bullshit

 

[Critical Hit]

here some shots taken by me from 30sec direct feed press video

The background terrain in the first screenshot looks worse than in FF7, smh.

 

[Msamy]

The background terrain in the first screenshot looks worse than in FF7, smh.

That's just dust and blur effect and time of day on that specific scene have nothing to do to compare at all to that ff7 clear day time with bullshit graphics

 

[KyoZz]

Lighting, and character models and hair tech are clearly better on laufey, i don't know how you guys don't see that clear thing also those hq direct feed ragnarok pics have far better quality than youtube bullshit, here some shots taken by me from 30sec direct feed press video I don't know why big companuy can't provide full trailerson direct feed quality instead of YouTube bullshit

Can you stop posting the same thing over and over again, or at least USE RESIZE PLEASE.
(Sorry but it had to be said)

See how it's far better for us to navigate like this?

As for your question, I do think character model has been improved but not by much. It was already very good on PS4 and now it's still very good but not Metahuman level of good (which should be the next step for SM.
I mean I can be more impressed by some NPCs in Horizon FW than what I saw in Laufey, that's a problem. And overall it doesn't look like this game is releasing on a new generation of console. Which is a problem too. And that doesn't mean it's not looking fine, but we've been used to expect way more from Sony.

 

[Bojji]

Lighting, and character models and hair tech are clearly better on laufey, i don't know how you guys don't see that clear thing also those hq direct feed ragnarok pics have far better quality than youtube bullshit, here some shots taken by me from 30sec direct feed press video I don't know why big companuy can't provide full trailerson direct feed quality instead of YouTube bullshit

I don't see it.

For sure they added cool hair system with translucency but they still don't have basic sub surface scattering on faces. WTF? ND had in in Uncharted 4, many other third party games as well (on last gen consoles), this is part of the reason why Faye looks like shit.

Still baked lighting, still SSR, still SSAO - nothing current gen about this game (so far). It's still one on PS4++ level of many other Sony games.

 

[Msamy]

I don't see it.

For sure they added cool hair system with translucency but they still don't have basic sub surface scattering on faces. WTF? ND had in in Uncharted 4, many other third party games as well (on last gen consoles), this is part of the reason why Faye looks like shit.

Still baked lighting, still SSR, still SSAO - nothing current gen about this game (so far). It's still one on PS4++ level of many other Sony games.

How on the world this don't have SSS?

 

[Bojji]

How on the world this don't have SSS?

That title screen is carefully prepared by SSM, it looks a lot worse few seconds later:

This looks like SSS off to me:

 

[Msamy]

That title screen is carefully prepared by SSM, it looks a lot worse few seconds later:

 

[Critical Hit]

That's just dust and blur effect and time of day

Doesn't look like it.

 

[Bojji]

I don't see SSS here, maybe other Gafers will share their opinions.

 

[Msamy]

Doesn't look like it.

 

[Msamy]

Bojji How on the world you don't see SSS?

 

[Bojji]

Bojji How on the world you don't see SSS?

I don't see it on the pictures you posted. This is how SSS looks like:

 

[Msamy]

Sub surface scattering is affecting how naturally skin react with lightning, not how more specular it have,?

Also here character face skin that I currently using on my game Implment full skin SSS shader on it I hoped even if achieved 0.2 of how good laufey character skin look, lol

 

[analog_future]

Let's just all tell Msamy we agree with him so he can stop killing this thread with screenshots

 

[Msamy]

Let's just all tell Msamy we agree with him so he can stop killing this thread with screenshtos

Man i post shoots when you guys posted with same number, I just enjoy the conversation and comparison here and definitely don't want to force my opinion

 

[analog_future]

Man i post shoots when you guys posted with same number, I just enjoy the conversation and comparison here and definitely don't want to force my opinion

I'm just messing with you haha

 

[Bojji]

Sorry Msamy but I don't see it, maybe new trailers will show it much better.

SSS in UC4: