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Supergirl | Official Teaser Trailer
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
She looks like a little girl ... Which is probably the point.
SJRB
Gold Member
March Climber
Member
Don't bother, Germuso goes around threads trolling for laugh reactions.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Thanks for the heads up
March Climber
Member
Great supergirl, great outfit designs (for her specifically), but they dropped the ball so very hard with writing...(except for that Lex Luthor season that one was well done).Tv show supergirl was so cute
Germuso
Banned
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
What is "promoving"?
Fake
Member
Avoiding any backlash for the sake of the movie. You know, the same that Snow White actress did.
I know you remember this, right?
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Yes. I remember.
Saber
Newd Member
Man this movie is about to crash so hard
"we are looking at less than 350M final and results of 220-260M in the middle"
Could do lower than The Flash.........
Hope it was worth the shit talking. The movie that you should do all the effort to attract the most people possible, she does that. Not that Supergirl honestly had much chance after Superman.
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DarkShadowXI
Gold Member
I just saw that James Gunn didn't write or direct this. He's just a producer.
Doesn't give me that much more confidence that it'll be any good, but knowing he wasn't that hands on with it makes me maybe consider it when it comes to streaming.
Doesn't give me that much more confidence that it'll be any good, but knowing he wasn't that hands on with it makes me maybe consider it when it comes to streaming.
VulcanRaven
Member
Expectations for Supergirl shouldn't be too high. This is basically the first movie about her for most people. No one remembers the 80s one. I don't think this could even be compared to Wonder Woman. She had a big role in BvS before her solo movie.
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
I'm waiting to watch this film when it comes to digital but it's weird, I have no excitement to see this film at all
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
I doubt the new Supergirl movie ends up being a "bad" film, it will probably be okay, but just simply okay and not very exciting or interesting. Woman of Tomorrow, the comic its loosely based on, was a decent story, but I have a feeling film audiences won't be drawn to watch a young pessimistic gritty party version of Supergirl run around with another female character kicking "evil bad men" because they hurt her dog. The premise feels very 2020, and I'm not sure it will play well in 2026 after the DEI/woke/"female boss" craze the world has just gone through over the last few years.
I think the film will probably make a profit in the end, but not by much. That's my hunch.
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Angry_Megalodon
Member
Another nihilistic egomaniac girlboss with all the traits of a villain posturing as "hero".
This trash will bomb hard.
This trash will bomb hard.
VulcanRaven
Member
This poster looks cool
NickFire
Member
Seriously. The ignorance and hubris is so hard to understand. They gave her a role where the audience will expect girl boss, marvel type quips, etc. Her movie follows a pretty good mainline Superman and can piggyback off the interest in where the universe is heading. But nope, just couldn't manage to simply talk up the movie instead of criticizing a pretty sizable chunk of the possible audience.
I'd feel bad for the people paying for all these movies that underperform except they encouraged this silliness for so long they have no one to really blame but themselves.
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
That one.
VulcanRaven
Member
She just answered a question in interview and didn't insult anyone. Its not like she just made a statement. Her short answer is pretty tame.
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Exactly! I have been trying to remember WHAT was so divisive that she said that talked down to to a wide potential audience... She was being general about the industry and her own experience on GOT
The Vanity Fair article was just the tip of the PR nightmare.
www.vanityfair.com
It's kinda hard to track down the course of her statements, but this seems to be the one with the "ownership of women's bodies" comment.
"Has the famously fickle Game of Thrones fandom prepared Alcock for the inevitable backlash she'll face? "It definitely made me aware that simply existing as a woman in that space is something that people comment on. We have become very comfortable having this weird ownership of women's bodies," she says. "I can't really stop them. I can only be myself.""
Vanity Fair is a TERRIBLE place to try to source quotes as they are really bad at teasing out what is the interviewer's comment and what is a (often HEAVILY paraphrased) response by the interviewee. But she's responding, I think, to the contrast between her and the older Emma actress on House of the Dragon. Fans were attached to her performance and Emma was a lot more bitter and shrewish (as she was in the source 'book'). But then you gotta wonder, what "space" is she referring to? Acting? Or a male dominated genre? And what "weird ownership" does she mean? The freedom to comment on attractiveness (or lack thereof?). It's more her own insecurities wrapped up in convoluted phrasing, I think.
Then we get this Variety article
variety.com
"I guess women know that this is just how it's always been, unfortunately," Alcock adds. "And it's from a lot of people whose profiles have no photo, who are burner accounts. Or someone's name and then 'Dad of four, Christian,' which is hilarious to me. But I mean, whose opinion do you really care about? If you're pissing the right kind of people off, you're doing OK."
Which REALLY ticked folks off because now it sounds like she is bitching about christian men....EXACTLY the audience of these superhero films! That was really a bad slip on her part, as it probably shows her true opinion about middle aged men, which may not be surprising for a young woman, it definitely isn't something you should say on the PR trail for your massively expensive edgy FEMALE superhero film.
Granted, most of this brouhaha is really just manufactured, both by the "bad pr is still good pr" folks and the "let's just hate EVERYTHING" crowd. But it, once again, reveals that these idiot actors should just SHUT THE FUCK UP on social media when they are cranking out 150+ million dollar movies that rely HEAVILY on audiences they seem to despise.
If they cast an actor in a rom-com and all he says on his press tour is "as a male simply existing in this space, there is a weird ownership of men's emotional availability" it would probably trigger a lot of women viewers, even more so if he followed it up with "and then I see "working mom of four, christian" and I just don't care about those frumpy housewives", just IMAGINE how The View would take it.
Anyway, I think it's a bit of a mistake to not show Supergirl "at her best" first, then chase it with this revenge take. It just makes the character seem unlikable and rash FROM THE GET GO, not a proper hero who is just trying to take a well earned break from the pressures of her life and getting dragged into the shit. Heroes rise ABOVE their trauma, it's what makes them HEROES, and when this is where all the great moments come from (and I'm aware of the ending of the WoT comic), but I think the story would sell better if we had more of a noble Supergirl first.
Supergirl Milly Alcock Prepares to Take Flight
She rode dragons in Westeros and scammed Julianne Moore on Sirens. Now the Aussie is taking on a beloved comic book character: “I am aware that I am going to get comments,” she says. “But I can’t really stop them. I can only be myself.”
It's kinda hard to track down the course of her statements, but this seems to be the one with the "ownership of women's bodies" comment.
"Has the famously fickle Game of Thrones fandom prepared Alcock for the inevitable backlash she'll face? "It definitely made me aware that simply existing as a woman in that space is something that people comment on. We have become very comfortable having this weird ownership of women's bodies," she says. "I can't really stop them. I can only be myself.""
Vanity Fair is a TERRIBLE place to try to source quotes as they are really bad at teasing out what is the interviewer's comment and what is a (often HEAVILY paraphrased) response by the interviewee. But she's responding, I think, to the contrast between her and the older Emma actress on House of the Dragon. Fans were attached to her performance and Emma was a lot more bitter and shrewish (as she was in the source 'book'). But then you gotta wonder, what "space" is she referring to? Acting? Or a male dominated genre? And what "weird ownership" does she mean? The freedom to comment on attractiveness (or lack thereof?). It's more her own insecurities wrapped up in convoluted phrasing, I think.
Then we get this Variety article
‘Just F—ing Go for It’: How ‘Supergirl’ Star Milly Alcock Learned to Ignore the Trolls and Became a Punk Rock Superhero
Milly Alcock aims for a whole new level of movie stardom as she enters James Gunn's DC Universe as Supergirl.
variety.com
"I guess women know that this is just how it's always been, unfortunately," Alcock adds. "And it's from a lot of people whose profiles have no photo, who are burner accounts. Or someone's name and then 'Dad of four, Christian,' which is hilarious to me. But I mean, whose opinion do you really care about? If you're pissing the right kind of people off, you're doing OK."
Which REALLY ticked folks off because now it sounds like she is bitching about christian men....EXACTLY the audience of these superhero films! That was really a bad slip on her part, as it probably shows her true opinion about middle aged men, which may not be surprising for a young woman, it definitely isn't something you should say on the PR trail for your massively expensive edgy FEMALE superhero film.
Granted, most of this brouhaha is really just manufactured, both by the "bad pr is still good pr" folks and the "let's just hate EVERYTHING" crowd. But it, once again, reveals that these idiot actors should just SHUT THE FUCK UP on social media when they are cranking out 150+ million dollar movies that rely HEAVILY on audiences they seem to despise.
If they cast an actor in a rom-com and all he says on his press tour is "as a male simply existing in this space, there is a weird ownership of men's emotional availability" it would probably trigger a lot of women viewers, even more so if he followed it up with "and then I see "working mom of four, christian" and I just don't care about those frumpy housewives", just IMAGINE how The View would take it.
Anyway, I think it's a bit of a mistake to not show Supergirl "at her best" first, then chase it with this revenge take. It just makes the character seem unlikable and rash FROM THE GET GO, not a proper hero who is just trying to take a well earned break from the pressures of her life and getting dragged into the shit. Heroes rise ABOVE their trauma, it's what makes them HEROES, and when this is where all the great moments come from (and I'm aware of the ending of the WoT comic), but I think the story would sell better if we had more of a noble Supergirl first.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
I wonder how many normal people know who Lobo is. I had no idea and he seems to be pure schlock as a character.This poster looks cool
VulcanRaven
Member
She did say this in that Variety interview in response to reaction she got from the first comment (that was in my post too):The Vanity Fair article was just the tip of the PR nightmare.
Supergirl Milly Alcock Prepares to Take Flight
She rode dragons in Westeros and scammed Julianne Moore on Sirens. Now the Aussie is taking on a beloved comic book character: “I am aware that I am going to get comments,” she says. “But I can’t really stop them. I can only be myself.”
It's kinda hard to track down the course of her statements, but this seems to be the one with the "ownership of women's bodies" comment.
"Has the famously fickle Game of Thrones fandom prepared Alcock for the inevitable backlash she'll face? "It definitely made me aware that simply existing as a woman in that space is something that people comment on. We have become very comfortable having this weird ownership of women's bodies," she says. "I can't really stop them. I can only be myself.""
Vanity Fair is a TERRIBLE place to try to source quotes as they are really bad at teasing out what is the interviewer's comment and what is a (often HEAVILY paraphrased) response by the interviewee. But she's responding, I think, to the contrast between her and the older Emma actress on House of the Dragon. Fans were attached to her performance and Emma was a lot more bitter and shrewish (as she was in the source 'book'). But then you gotta wonder, what "space" is she referring to? Acting? Or a male dominated genre? And what "weird ownership" does she mean? The freedom to comment on attractiveness (or lack thereof?). It's more her own insecurities wrapped up in convoluted phrasing, I think.
Then we get this Variety article
‘Just F—ing Go for It’: How ‘Supergirl’ Star Milly Alcock Learned to Ignore the Trolls and Became a Punk Rock Superhero
Milly Alcock aims for a whole new level of movie stardom as she enters James Gunn's DC Universe as Supergirl.
"I guess women know that this is just how it's always been, unfortunately," Alcock adds. "And it's from a lot of people whose profiles have no photo, who are burner accounts. Or someone's name and then 'Dad of four, Christian,' which is hilarious to me. But I mean, whose opinion do you really care about? If you're pissing the right kind of people off, you're doing OK."
Which REALLY ticked folks off because now it sounds like she is bitching about christian men....EXACTLY the audience of these superhero films! That was really a bad slip on her part, as it probably shows her true opinion about middle aged men, which may not be surprising for a young woman, it definitely isn't something you should say on the PR trail for your massively expensive edgy FEMALE superhero film.
Granted, most of this brouhaha is really just manufactured, both by the "bad pr is still good pr" folks and the "let's just hate EVERYTHING" crowd. But it, once again, reveals that these idiot actors should just SHUT THE FUCK UP on social media when they are cranking out 150+ million dollar movies that rely HEAVILY on audiences they seem to despise.
If they cast an actor in a rom-com and all he says on his press tour is "as a male simply existing in this space, there is a weird ownership of men's emotional availability" it would probably trigger a lot of women viewers, even more so if he followed it up with "and then I see "working mom of four, christian" and I just don't care about those frumpy housewives", just IMAGINE how The View would take it.
Anyway, I think it's a bit of a mistake to not show Supergirl "at her best" first, then chase it with this revenge take. It just makes the character seem unlikable and rash FROM THE GET GO, not a proper hero who is just trying to take a well earned break from the pressures of her life and getting dragged into the shit. Heroes rise ABOVE their trauma, it's what makes them HEROES, and when this is where all the great moments come from (and I'm aware of the ending of the WoT comic), but I think the story would sell better if we had more of a noble Supergirl first.
"I didn't even say 'men' — I said 'people!'" Alcock says. "And they got so angry. I was like, 'You're proving my point. You're proving my point!'"
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kpopSuperstar
Gold Member
I don't think she said anything bad, it's just that people are so fed up with actors talking down to their audience that they overreact when they hear stuff like this.
But she should have known that. Actors should understand how social media works at this point. It's not rational and it will backfire on you if you give it anything to weaponize.
But she should have known that. Actors should understand how social media works at this point. It's not rational and it will backfire on you if you give it anything to weaponize.
Well, it seems to me that when she says "I didn't say men" and then goes on to use "they" and "you're", she is INDEED referring to men. That's "the space" that she is referring to, and she confirms it by saying "women's bodies", not "our bodies", "my body", or "peoples bodies" as if it's only the girls getting the heat and that chisled jawed Aemond guy isn't the source of UNENDING fanfic worship.
I get it. She seems insecure about herself, as is common amongst young people and actors in particular. She's not the carefree "here are my tits" type of woman so I'm sure the discussion of her character and her rape of Criston was tough to deal with, plus the ongoing trampdom of the Rhaenyra character. But what else do you expect from a dirty Black hoe?
Regardless, if you are SUPERGIRL and out promoting the film, keep yer yap shut, talk about the usual stuff like "she is a strong woman who has overcome childhood difficulty, finds strength in her dog and family/friends, naturally as a kryptonian she's a heavyweight when under a yellow sun, but I also hope everyone can find inspiration in her journey, enjoy the thrills of this film, it's great and I love you all!"
It's not hard and was the norm for DECADES to say this shit while on a PR tour. Only with the advent of social media are we getting glimpses into their personal feelings enough to be able to draw connections between the actor and their art. Add to it the general sense of distain, if not outright REVULSION, most of Hollywood seems to hold for everyone not inside their little bubble, and the 'rabble' are sick of it. Hollywood has picked a side in the culture war and is tearing itself apart because of it.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Nothing makes me happier than watching another young, stupid and entitled bitch making her movie collapse by trying to sound smart, and then winding up looking like a young, stupid and entitled bitch.
VulcanRaven
Member
It really baffles me seeing people responding like this to very tame comments. People get outraged by nothing. Its so weird.
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Fake
Member
Don't looks like a tame comment to me. Maybe to you.
VulcanRaven
Member
Popcorn bucket:
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Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Go enjoy your comic book movie dude.
It's not weird at all for calling out a dumb bitch being a dumb bitch.
WhiteWaterM00se
Member
I don't know. I still think it can be a decent DC superhero movie. We will see though.
I will say though, imo. IF Supergirl fails to meet expectations at the box office and next years Superman sequel do the same. Then Gunn will be out at DC/WB.
So, we just have to see. I am still hopeful this will be an entertaining "popcorn flick" superhero movie. Along the lines of a Guardians of the Galaxy or Deadpool movie. Nothing fancy, just entertaining enough.
I will say though, imo. IF Supergirl fails to meet expectations at the box office and next years Superman sequel do the same. Then Gunn will be out at DC/WB.
So, we just have to see. I am still hopeful this will be an entertaining "popcorn flick" superhero movie. Along the lines of a Guardians of the Galaxy or Deadpool movie. Nothing fancy, just entertaining enough.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
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Nothing about this movie feels Supergirlish.
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SJRB
Gold Member
Popcorn bucket:
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Notice how the planet is placed in front of the clouds.
Superposition
Member
How did they manage to make Lobo look so small, even on posters?
VulcanRaven
Member
If Supergirl was made just after Man of Steel it would be in the exact same situation. There is no reason to expect huge numbers from a Supergirl movie.
I wonder, if she had shown up for the final battle in Superman, had a kick ass fight with that techno chick and some good one liners such that the audience had a real chance to attach to her, if this would market better than just seeing her as a drunk brat. Supergirl has to be in the top 5 recognizable female superheroes, so she shouldn't really need much set up, but they seem to be really struggling selling her personality.
calico
Member
Then they should have budgeted accordingly, or better yet not made it at all.
Man of Steel had like a 50% higher box office in real terms, which suggests conditions would have been at least somewhat more favourable.
Pretty low if the source is anything to go by. Supergirl is one of the very few female heroines that CAN go toe to toe with virtually anyone with no need for girlbossery shenanigans. I would have preferred a more buff actress with a gymnasts build (much like how superman is a human tank) but Hollywood be Hollywood with their twiggy girls.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
I honestly think it was reckless to make a Supergirl movie this early on. Having a bomb this early in the Gunn-verse can't bode well for the future of it.
Iron Man had The Incredible Hulk following it, which I greatly enjoyed and it had a big name character and actor. What fucked up the DCU imo was that Batman didn't get a solo movie after Man of Steel. You need to have a good foundation and then build up the momentum if you want to make a -verse. In the case of Gunn-verse I think they should have had a Batman movie as the second one prepared as soon as Gunn got control of it. Right now I think everything feels haphazard.
nightfly
Member
Wonder if Gina Carano would be a good SG.
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Dragon_Rocks
Member
Genuinely asking out of curiosity and not trying to start an argument. What is a Supergirl movie supposed to feel or look like? I haven't seen the old one.Nothing about this movie feels Supergirlish.
DC Super Hero Girls had a fun take on Supergirl as kind of a buff jock, Carino (a young Carino) might sorta work for that, but she has a very different energy in what little acting I've seen from her.
They have done a lot of tall, lithe Supergirls, but I like her with some muscle. I've always wanted Brittnay Daniel to get cast, like around White Chicks timeframe. She has a great base for a Hollywood bulk cycle to make her really pop.
