Support NeoGAF

[Radical_3d]

Or Gabe Cube 2. The idea is fantastic and but they've shitted the bed with the execution. Not waiting a few weeks so they could present this to the press working with FSR 4.1 is a big mistake in itself. But think about 3 years from now, with RDNA 5 being a mature technology that has all the feature set of PS6/Helix and starts to be affordable at 3nm. Lets just assume everything else is the same, that the AI bubble hasn't burst ( ) and therefore the prices are roughly the same. Sightly worse than PS6 at 1.100€ with that form factor, all USB C, Bluetooth integration, etcetera, etcetera. The difference is that the generation is starting instead of ending and that you'll have day 1 support for a decent scaler which will probably make the differences against PS6/Helix invisible to the non enthusiast eye. What do you say?

I think I'd love that for my desk. A gaming dedicated Mac Mini sounds about right to me and I don't need it to be the be all end all since in PC I only play small titles (gems) or turn based stuff.

 

[Diddy X]

Hell no.

 

[CentralScrutinizer]

I ain't buying shit until prices regulate back to normal. If they never do, I never will.

 

[lakitu1982]

I ain't buying shit until prices regulate back to normal. If they never do, I never will.

 

[Darkness_Arises]

I love my Steam Deck, but it still does not offer the slick seamless experience of the PS5 or any other console for that matter. Suspending games fails more often than I would like. Some games do not launch and you are just stuck until you close with B button and relaunch. Background sleep mode downloads aren't a thing and allowing background downloads while gaming can tank performance in some games. Until these niggles are addressed, I am not investing more than 500 GBP in Steam hardware.

 

[Kerotan]

 

[PauloRoberto]

Strangely, given this ridiculous price, we already have better offers by minisfoum and others HTPC builders. That being said, SteamOS needs to be more mature and officialiy compatiblie with more machines to be a true differential, something that, imho, Valve should focus, instead of try to create a default machine for it...

 

[Sintoid]

Will there be a Steam Machine 2?

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

No cause my current PC is already next gen. And It'll still be a big no even if I was still on my pervious old PC cause price are crappy with that 8gb vram which is the same amount as my previous old pc.

 

[CentralScrutinizer]

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

I'm waiting for Steam Machine 2 Pro

 

[rodrigolfp]

I don't think so. What would be the advantage(s) over a desktop I build myself??

Will there be a Steam Machine 2?

Technically this is already a Steam Machine 2.

I love my Steam Deck, but it still does not offer the slick seamless experience of the PS5 or any other console for that matter.

PS5 offers handheld gaming and PC games??

 

[LordOcidax]

Will there be a Steam Machine 2?

 

[Tobimacoss]

Only Console hardware I would ever get is Helix Flagship Magnus Alpha Trion 2, PS6 Canis TV Box, Switch 2. I am OK with various streaming only boxes as well.

 

[RCX]

I ain't buying shit until prices regulate back to normal. If they never do, I never will.

The only correct answer. All of my gear is well looked after and more than capable of playing the types of games I'm usually interested in (couldn't give two shits about 99% of "AAA")

I'm settling in for a long winter.

 

[Buggy Loop]

I ain't buying shit until prices regulate back to normal. If they never do, I never will.

You would be ready to stop playing new games?

 

[Laptop1991]

No, i would stick with my desktop PC, they won't be making it anyway as it would push the cost up even more.

 

[ValiantInstance]

Lol you know it's bad when we're discussing the next model before it's even come out.

 

[Disciple of MSSP]

By Steam machine 2 do you mean the Steam Machine Pro Max?

 

[Trilobit]

By Steam machine 2 do you mean the Steam Machine Pro Max?

If called Steam Machine U it would be a guaranteed success.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Or Gabe Cube 2. The idea is fantastic and but they've shitted the bed with the execution.

​

The only thing that's wrong about the SM is the price. Just because you'd like a more powerful box doesn't mean there's no use for some people for a design like this.

 

[Disciple of MSSP]

If called Steam Machine U it would be a guaranteed success.

Nah Steam Machiine

 

[AJUMP23]

Nope won't be living when it happens.

 

[Wildebeest]

I don't know what silicon steam machine 2 will have inside it but steam machine 3 will be made from sticks and stones.

 

[MiguelItUp]

If the price was better and the specs fell in line with said price. But with the state of the market, I wouldn't expect something to change for a long, long time. Assuming it even will.

The only thing that's wrong about the SM is the price. Just because you'd like a more powerful box doesn't mean there's no use for some people for a design like this.

Very true, a lot of people would've purchased one if it was priced right, even PC owners. But the pricing ain't great, which isn't surprising in today's dumb ass market, lol.

 

[Bitstream]

You're saying valve is going to release another outdated and overpriced box at the end of the next console generation that doesn't even deliver comparable performance to the base consoles released 7 years prior?

 

[T4keD0wN]

For ~200€ yes

Its better than a shieldtv, could use that.

 

[Topher]

Or Gabe Cube 2. The idea is fantastic and but they've shitted the bed with the execution. Not waiting a few weeks so they could present this to the press working with FSR 4.1 is a big mistake in itself. But think about 3 years from now, with RDNA 5 being a mature technology that has all the feature set of PS6/Helix and starts to be affordable at 3nm. Lets just assume everything else is the same, that the AI bubble hasn't burst ( ) and therefore the prices are roughly the same. Sightly worse than PS6 at 1.100€ with that form factor, all USB C, Bluetooth integration, etcetera, etcetera. The difference is that the generation is starting instead of ending and that you'll have day 1 support for a decent scaler which will probably make the differences against PS6/Helix invisible to the non enthusiast eye. What do you say?

I think I'd love that for my desk. A gaming dedicated Mac Mini sounds about right to me and I don't need it to be the be all end all since in PC I only play small titles (gems) or turn based stuff.

Thesauruses should be illegal

 

[MayauMiao]

Given how it is with Steam Machine 1, hell no.

 

[CLW]

Maybe IF

(1) Price to Performance > PS6
(2) Price to Performance > DIY PC

these steam machines are NOT pcs because the parts cannot be switched/upgraded so they have to beat Sony on value from a price to performance perspective.

Right now the steam machine is < or = to Base PS5 performance for nearly DOUBLE the price so I can get roughly TEN games on PS5 for the same price as a steam machine

 

[Celcius]

No, I like to build my own machines and I like to run Windows

 

[buttnuggett]

I prefer to build my pc's to my liking. So no.

 

[Radical_3d]

I like to run Windows

 

[Fbh]

Depends on how much the Ps6 ends up costing, and how much building a comprable (or better) PC costs by then. So it's impossible to say right now.
The biggest problem with the Steam Machine as it is now is that it's a bad value proposition no matter what you compare it to.
Compared to a console you are paying twice as much for slightly worse performance.
Compared to building your own comparable PC you are paying around the same, except you then can't upgrade most components so instead of buying a $600 GPU upgrade in a few years you need to get a whole new $1000+ machine.