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because their existence has entirely been erased and they are not represented in politics and have no major megaphone voice
the only thing people know are sports mascots
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81% of Democrats support Tubman on the $20, 34% of Republicans.
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because their existence has entirely been erased and they are not represented in politics and have no major megaphone voice
the only thing people know are sports mascots
sixteen-bit
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LiquidSolid
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To be fair, paper money is super shitty. You guys should join the 21st century and use polymer notes.
A Link to the Past
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Should have gone one step further and put a Native American or another black historical figure on the other side of the bill. I mean why not? I'm guessing that many of the people upset about this don't even know that Jackson is still on the bill.
brainchild
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This is such a great post!
hydrophilic attack
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On the new Swedish bills, half of them have women
gutter_trash
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Sweden needs to put ABBA on their dollar bills. One of the best groups ever
They do. That's what he was talking about. Two women, two men.
DontBeThatGuy
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Duh, Iron Eyes Cody. The greatest Native American
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Wasn't the US Treasury Secretary talking about putting major suffragists on some bills? I think MLK is slated for one of them too.
Also, putting a Native American on the bill might not be a great idea. Let me preface this by saying I'm completely unfamiliar with America's relationship with American Indians, because I'm Canadian. However, even though putting an American Indian would be done with the best of intentions, it could still be felt as patronizing. It is definitely something that should be done with the consent and consultation of American Indians themselves.
A Link to the Past
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This is a good point, given that there's a very poor relationship between Native Americans and the US government, and how a lot of Native American figures are people who did not want to be depicted in general.
Razgriz-Specter
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Sacagawea
And at the absolute worst if they can't name her, Pocahontas
In addition to the obvious explanation that they just don't like Harriet Tubman (for being black and being a woman, but i bet the first is the kicker), they're probably also more likely to like Andrew Jackson. Either through not knowing about him or not caring. Not a great look when the best reason for opposing this is "crippling fear of change."
much edgy
Dolla dolla bill yall.
Tubmans and Jacksons...money money money. I like them all. People don't want her on their bills? Give'em to me then.
Gotdatmoney
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BEeSBQnPlzA/?taken-by=basketballvines
34% of republican support is more than I would have guessed.
34% of republican support is more than I would have guessed.
I'm not sure that's who I would have chosen for the bill, but I'm good with it.
Marcy: Steve, don't tell them about your insane quest to create the 99 cent coin.
Steve: Al, I invented the 99 cent coin. Have you ever noticed how things cost $7.99? $14.99? $99.99? My coin will eliminate the messy change that only catches the attention of obnoxious beggars who hassle you on the way to your Mercedes. Think of it, Al. Anything you want, you just plunk down old number 99. It's a plan without flaws.
Al: What about tax?
Steve: You sound just like those fools in the Treasury Department.
Marcy: Well, dear, maybe if you hadn't have insisted on putting your picture on the coin.
Steve: Whose should it have been? Yours? Look, Al, you gotta see your dream through,
Buddy. All they can do is laugh at you.
Marcy: And audit you for five straight years.
Married with Children was the best.
Marcy: Steve, don't tell them about your insane quest to create the 99 cent coin.
Steve: Al, I invented the 99 cent coin. Have you ever noticed how things cost $7.99? $14.99? $99.99? My coin will eliminate the messy change that only catches the attention of obnoxious beggars who hassle you on the way to your Mercedes. Think of it, Al. Anything you want, you just plunk down old number 99. It's a plan without flaws.
Al: What about tax?
Steve: You sound just like those fools in the Treasury Department.
Marcy: Well, dear, maybe if you hadn't have insisted on putting your picture on the coin.
Steve: Whose should it have been? Yours? Look, Al, you gotta see your dream through,
Buddy. All they can do is laugh at you.
Marcy: And audit you for five straight years.
Married with Children was the best.
exmachina64
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Damn right.
everyday math
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If it were up to me sure. Unfortunately, I'm just a lowly factory worker who works 10hr days so you can have doors. My opinion means squat.
Only thing I have going for me is my vote. And it seems that's slowly, but surly becoming less relevant as time goes by.
I've seen some of my staunch democrat friends share this article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/post...harriet-tubman-and-all-women-off-the-20-bill/
Keep Harriet Tubman and all women off the $20 bill
Harriet Tubman did not fight for capitalism, free trade or competitive markets.
nah just ignorant of the reason she's been chosen instead of MLK. And I guess ignorant regarding the importance of Tubman as a historical figure too. Easy enough to read up on both things and alleviate it.
everyday math
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Please read and educate yourself.
While its not extremely in depth it will give you enough info on how important she was.
i have a decent understanding of who she was as a historical figure but i dont know the reason why shes been chosen instead of MLK.
k ill read this
Yuck. The day Ronald Reagan gets put on money is the day I actively avoid having to handle paper money.
Abstrusity
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It's not that I don't support Tubman on the 20, I just think that the irony of putting a terrible person on money backed entirely be an institution he deemed in life to be cancerous to the extreme is too good to pass up!
But then, that was before I heard he'd still be on the BACK of the bill. Before I joined, my argument was for Tubman anyway.
But then, that was before I heard he'd still be on the BACK of the bill. Before I joined, my argument was for Tubman anyway.
Simple enough. It was a movement to address the lack of substantial female figures in our countries history. MLK doesn't fit that.
excelsiorlef
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Because the movement was to specifically get a woman on a bill and MLK is not a woman.
i read this and its exactly what i knew of her already. Why are they even keeping Jackson on the bill though? why not simply swap him for Tubman? The article though is mentioning that they are gonna be adding a multitude of new faces on the backs of the 5 and 10 dollar bills. i think this is more appropriate, like creating a 'Mt Rushmore' of people with important historical value.
Fine Ham Abounds
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That's not what that thread was about, really. But no, opinions are not all equally informed or of equal value.
Androidsleeps
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I hope they put some non political people on those bills, like a scientist or an artist.
everyday math
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Appeasement I would say. Iv actually been trying to find somewhere where the treasury explains why they're not kicking him off and I have yet to find it. I agree with you I like the Mount Rushmore style they're thinking off.
If you known she did all that then why is MLK worth more then her to be on the twenty? What would have been nice if they could've done a Rushmore style bill with notable civil rights leaders on the front and back. Buts thats getting too crazy and might ruffle some feathers to the point they're naked!
Enough do
Jesus, that's scary
Fine Ham Abounds
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I'm definitely in the camp that was nonplussed at him remaining on the back until I assumed it was because of trying to pander to those who couldn't handle the change.
She played a big part of the abolitionist movement and the civil war but MLK was the FACE of the civil rights movement imo. I think someone like Lincoln (whos already on the 5 dollar bill) played a bigger role in the freeing of the slaves than Tubman but to me MLK was the Civil rights movement and his 'I had a dream' speech is so famous that it keeps him extremely relevant to this day. Simply put if you ask a bunch of kids who Harriet Tubman is i bet a lot of them wouldnt be able to answer (hell kids in my school couldnt answer who she was after doing an entire civil war section, like srsly wtf.) but i feel pretty confident that most people know who MLK is. Although i understand that part of the reason shes gonna be on the $20 bill is to raise awareness of her story and life and keep it relevant in the modern day.
PHOENIXZERO
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It's not that they can't put it together or forget, they outright DENY there was ever a flip.
roflwaffles
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Enough do
lol is this real?
Byakuya769
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Don't need anymore sanitized image of the civil rights movement or yet another portrayal of the consensus "good" black rights movement. I'd rather a reminder that this nation treated people as chattel for a substantial portion of its history and Tubman is a great reminder of that.
I... Don't really know how to feel. Good I guess? I'll take Republicans liking her because she looked cool with guns and was a Republican (lol) over racist outcries.
Mysterious
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Why not Rosa Parks?
Tubman was far more significant.
JackBauer24
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Haven't seen this much controversy since
Where was I trying to sugarcoat history?
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