TTOOLL
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I know, I know. It is just a wish, in reality it would never work as intended, unfortunately.
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After Death of 17 year-old, Is This the End of Duterte's Drug War? (The Atlantic)
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I know, I know. It is just a wish, in reality it would never work as intended, unfortunately.
Sunster
Member
It's pretty bad. But people like Duterte make it seem like the country's ONLY problem. So people support him doing whatever it takes to get rid of that problem.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Your post is easily worse than his. Just a pathetic post. Snowflake and nazi being used in the same post is ironic too.
Carpe Carnim
Member
I don't support federal police kicking down doors and blasting a room full of Neo-Nazis. But I hope your ironic pains go well for you.
Except this isn't Brazil and the situation isn't the same. The cops are just murdering people left and right and drugs are just an excuse.
Carpe Carnim
Member
Sure sounds like a personal problem, sweetheart
A lot of Neo Nazis basically epitomize the "snowflake" moniker.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Geno Breaker
Banned
Duterte has been and always will be a scumbag. I kinda get why people want to kill every single person responsible for drugs and all that but it's gone the wrong direction from the very beginning and it's just way too unrealistic. Innocent people are doomed to die no matter who is responsible for such a plan. Addicts need help, not a 'punishment'.
Yikes.
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
Except "kill them all" in this case openly includes addicts, not just traffickers.
It is a primitive, idiotic, ineffective, and downright inhumane way to try and solve drug problems.
Duterte is a fucking simpleton though so I expect nothing less.
Also, they mention how many have been killed by police but police are also hiring contract killers. And part of the reason is that people in police are involved in the drug trafficking, so they're trying to get rid of anyone who might potentially rat them out. It is completely fucked up from top to bottom.
Endorphineforeverybody
Member
Whats up with you? Some big words, should be banable.
On Topic, just sad whats going on...
GrizzleBoy
Banned
Seriously what the actual fuck?
Well thankfully your country doesn't stoop to that level then.
You sounded like one of those Duterte supporters. Insulting other people that doesn't agree with their sentiments is one of their special moves.
Carpe Carnim
Member
Yes, I will call out people who advocate mass murder and the suspension of due process in furtherance of their snuff fantasies.
I'm sorry your delicate sensibilities were bruised.
With that said, what are the chances of sanctioning Duterte and his Nazi administration? Slim to none?
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
I can't say I understand your frustration because I'm not in that situation but you're talking about a scenario where the cops magically know they're killing an actual drug trafficker. How do you know? How do you know you're not killing some poor addict who the traffickers set up or whatever?
This fantasy of going in and just ridding the area of all traffickers is akin to talking about going in and killing all the Muslim terrorists in some country. It doesn't work that way.
You can call them out without being a cunt or by explaining properly.
As for your question, yeah good luck with that. Duterte's enemies may not be in favor with his actions, but they are also corrupt. One senator protects criminals that are already on jail, the other one failed a coup de etat and tried to do shady transactions with China regarding the disputed islands west of PH.
Insulting makes a person sound like a Duterte supporter more than supporting mass murder?
TTOOLL
Member
Of course I know it doesn't work that way. I just wish it happened the way I said, drug traffickers only. Just a dream.
dragonelite
Member
Didn't he recently gave the Philippines free University and college level education in 2018 and on?
That should give a nice boost to his approval ratings.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
A post asking for drug dealers and also any addicts or people who happen to live with said drug dealers or addicts (say a wife and/or children) to be murdered by state police without due process is less pathetic than a name calling one. (Because you know, in reality that's what is going to happen. Also proof: this thread with the teenager shot in the back begging for his life after being falsely labeled a drug lord)
Right.
I don't see the harm in letting
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Man reading this thread, this is why Guantanomo Bay happened. Thank fucking Christ it was shut down by Obama. Due process is just thrown out the window pretty easily for some people. Oh well.
Edit: Cleaned up my post
Carpe Carnim
Member
What's the minimum age for a GAF account? By that age, should people have to explain why mass homicide, without a trial, is an objectively bad thing?
As far as the corruption goes, I wonder how Filipinos think it compares to the corruption under Marcos. Worse, better, or about the same?
TTOOLL
Member
You may disagree with me, no problems. You can't lie like this and pretend I said things I didn't. Are you crazy making up this shit?
As others have invoked, "One death is a tragedy, one million deaths is a statistic".
Duerte's purging of people deemed "undesirable" under the flimsiest pretences is abhorrent.
Duerte's purging of people deemed "undesirable" under the flimsiest pretences is abhorrent.
I think that is in part a matter of perspective, that citizens of the West are more used to its own religious... traditions. They just feel more natural because we grew up immersed in or surrounded by then.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Sorry. I forgot we invented the DrugLordRadar(TM) where anyone can be found with 100% certainty that they in fact, deal drugs. You posted this 'kill all drug dealers' fantasy in a thread about a teenager being killed and then blamed for dealing drugs as a coverup.
Edit: Will all of the drug dealers in said houses be 100% guilty? Do drug dealers not have families who live with them? How will the cops know who to kill and who not to kill? Because that's what would happen.
TTOOLL
Member
Drug dealers don't have red health bars or appear on the minimap, so killings with "no remorse" and "no questions asked" as you said are going to murder many, many, many innocent people. As evidenced by Duerte's actions.
And that's being charitable to that they will even try to adhere to the premise, and not just murder people deemed undesirable for any reason.
I understand that in a chaotic environment, people are willing to obtain security at all costs. But if the cost is your own life as you're slain in a back alley, I don't see any enduring benefits.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
They got caught when they already mass murdered thousands, yeah, I'm sure it was just the only one they "incorrectly" executed.
Except he wasn't responding to soneone who is against mass killings. He was speaking to someone who was for them. It's a pretty big distinction.
From a practical purpose, that's exactly what you are asking for. You'd have to be really stupid to think only the drug traffickers would suffer under a policy of extra-judicial killings.
TTOOLL
Member
Really??? You think I don't know that??? I doesn't change what I said and what I meant.
Although it's not possible to do it in the real world, see what's happening in Philippines, I still wish they killed all drug traffickers. It's a motherfucking dream.
boredofcanada
Member
He's gonna have to go full dictator out of fear of repercussions coming his way from family members or rivals once he is out of office.
I dunno about it, but being a cunt against a cunt won't fix something. I like intelligent discussion, which I can't get on Facebook comments. If all discussions ends up in "fuck you all", it shouldn't have existed anyway.
As for corruption, Marcos is way worse. Killings are unreported, Media is silenced, and any freedom of speech is a crime. But don't take that as a compliment, as I can say that our government is still corrupted.
Carpe Carnim
Member
Every authoritarian punk has a dream. Some even write books about their struggles.
Take it from someone who's caught a rightful ban for violent fantasies: It ain't worth it
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
If the government did as you wish, you'd be murdering thousands of innocent people with no due process. Like what is happening in the Philippines, and it's not even actually solving the drug trafficking problem because the higher-ups go unpunished.
Keep your childish, inane fantasies out of this conversation, please.
Just have to be careful of those who claim they can deliver on that dream - I'm sure many of Duerte's supporters truly believe he is doing the right thing and are desperate enough from the very real circumstances they are suffering under to cling to the untrue belief of his good intentions.
Especially there where you have residents and children who really have no choice to be anything else.
lol at calling someone who lives in one of the most dangerous cities in the world a " snowflake ".
He got carried away and advocating for extrajudicial killings is immoral but that doesn't make him a nazi. Also gaf is usually all about vigilante justice when it's about racists so you could at least empathize with him even though what he said is wrong.
Why wouldn't you dream of some solution to the problem that doesn't involve mass murder then.
Carpe Carnim
Member
I wouldn't empathize with a poster who advocated federal police running into a block-party to start popping caps at neo-Nazis. You recognize that's quite a different animal than cheering on a private citizen punching Spencer,right?
If he had stated he wished cops ran into a drug-house and punched a bunch of pushers, or slap them with fish while doing funny walks, you'd get no pushback from me. But that didn't happen.
Exactly this changes nothing
Seductivpancakes
Member
Yep and I seriously doubt they'll take in the innocent people to account.
Messofanego
Banned
You know it's bad when you see what's going in the Philippines as an aspirational thing to want to happen to Brazil.
Megalosaro
Banned
My girlfriend says that Duterte uses the same tactics as Marcos. And that she's terrified of him
82% of people don't want to get shot, execution-style, in the middle of the street
18% are patriots